Most dominating championship performance

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  • 1975 - Richard Petty

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  • 1977 - Cale Yarborough

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  • 1987 - Dale Earnhardt

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  • 1998 - Jeff Gordon

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  • 1999 - Dale Jarrett

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  • other - please list below

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Here's some background on each of the choices:

1. 1975 - Petty won the title by 722 points over Dave Marcis, the highest margin ever.

2. 1977 - Yarborough posted 26 top-5s in 30 races, and the highest points-per-race average (166.7) ever.

3. 1987 - Earnhardt had 11 wins in 29 races, the 2nd-highest points average (161.9) ever, and won the title by 489 points over Bill Elliott.

4. 1998 - Gordon won 13 times in 33 races, averaged 161.5 points per race and at one point posted 17 straight top-5s.

5. 1999 - Jarrett had the highest top-10 total ever (29) by a champions, and went 20 straight races without finishing worse than 11th.

I personally voted for Yarborough, because it takes a lot of talent to finish in the top-5 in all but four races.
 
It may surprise a few of you folks since many know I'm such a die hard Earnhardt fan, but I had to go with Jeff Gordon on this one. Gordon had the added "competition" of NASCAR and it's parity attempts. Petty, Cale and Dale didn't have that to deal with in their years of domination.:)
 
think of the competition when earnhardt did it, with rusty and some of the other guys martin elliot...
 
Has to be Jeff Gordon, just look at the stats and competition.

I would have voted "all of the above" if that was a choice.
 
Can you imagine someone else winning 13 races in a season right now? You gotta give it to Gordon. That was simply amazing.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin
Can you imagine someone else winning 13 races in a season right now? You gotta give it to Gordon. That was simply amazing.
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Are you sure you would think the same thing if you weren't a Gordon fan?
 
got to be Gordon.. not just because i like him.. i mean not a lot of people could win 13 races;)
 
With the equipment and team that he had it was possible. I bet if you put anybody else in that seat at the time they would have had the same results.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
With the equipment and team that he had it was possible.  I bet if you put anybody else in that seat at the time they would have had the same results.
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LMAO! The ol' "Anyone could win in that car theory". Let's see, you "know" for a "fact" that all of his cars were superior to everyone else's every week AND his team were "superhuman"? WOW, nice theory dude! Actually all of his cars were remote conrol and he was just sitting in the car while Ray worked the controls!

Now, all of those guys dominated, but Gordon in 1998 was tops. Remember, that year is the year the Chevy driver's, including Earnhardt were lobbying for help, but couldn't get it because Gordon was winning in a Chevy.

Whether you would ever admit it or not, it is much harder to dominate nowadays than back then. Way more stricter and much more parity.

So, even if I loathed Gordon, I would have to admit that 1998 was an amazing feat.:D
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
With the equipment and team that he had it was possible.  I bet if you put anybody else in that seat at the time they would have had the same results.
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ANYBODY??? That's just plain silly.
 
13 wins on all kinds of diffrent tacks at several diffrent times of the year, dale earnhardt was racing that year. what was I thinking a 2 year old could do that. :rolleyes:
 
I don't care what anybody says, he had the best equipment at that time. Oh, how can everybody dominate? Sounds weird to me. And Alaska, I don't think anybody could do what he did, I was just trying to get a point across to everybody.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
Are you sure you would think the same thing if you weren't a Gordon fan?
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Actually yeah I would. I was probably a bigger fan of Richard Petty than I am of Jeff and he didn't have a year that compared to Gordon's '98 season.
 
Choosing between the two that I could remember I put Jeff's 1998 season.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
I don't care what anybody says, he had the best equipment at that time.  Oh, how can everybody dominate?  Sounds weird to me.  And Alaska, I don't think anybody could do what he did, I was just trying to get a point across to everybody.
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I didn't say everyone, this is what I said.

"Now, all of those guys dominated, but Gordon in 1998 was tops"

That means all of those guys listed did dominate their respective years.

The point you made was clear to me. It can't be the driver, must be the car!:p
 
besides Gordon's and Jarrett's seasons, how many on here actually saw(as it was happening that year) any of the other drivers' seasons listed?...just curious...:)
 
I didn't mean to make everybody angry, but that's just my opinion on Gordon in those days.
 
Originally posted by hooty3181529
besides Gordon's and Jarrett's seasons, how many on here actually saw(as it was happening that year) any of the other drivers' seasons listed?...just curious...:)
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I saw every one of them.

I should amend that. The first couple or so, I heard on MRN and read in GNS (now WCS), as they predated TV coverage. But I was a fan during every one of them, in fact went to Charlotte spring race in 1975.
 
wait a second what about jeff green's bgn championship in 2000.
 
Originally posted by No1grubbfan
wait a second what about jeff green's bgn championship in 2000.
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Green did have a very dominating year in 2000, but this a Winston Cup only poll. And I also just didn't think of it when I created the poll.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
With the equipment and team that he had it was possible.  I bet if you put anybody else in that seat at the time they would have had the same results.
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Racing is a team sport............you can NOT separate the team from the driver. The driver just gets the credit. Like the quarterback in football. Best driver on the worst team will be, at best, mediocre. Worst driver on best team will also, at best, be mediocre.:)
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
Racing is a team sport............you can NOT separate the team from the driver.  The driver just gets the credit.  Like the quarterback in football.  Best driver on the worst team will be, at best, mediocre.  Worst driver on best team will also, at best, be mediocre.:)
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That's a great point DE...Not to take anything away from the whole team, but what is the main constant variable in all FOUR of Jeff's championships? Jeff himself. He did have a great team in those days. I personally have more respect for his last championship because he did it with a mediocre team at best. He also had a lot to do with building that team from awful to championship caliber.
 
Okay everybody, stop all the jabberin' and pay attention!!! I've always maintained that the formula for winning races is as follows:

1/3 of it is the car
1/3 of it is the driver
1/3 of it is your gosh-darn luck

As you'll note, you need to have all three of those things be good to even win one race, let alone a championship - just ask folks like Johnny Benson, Ricky Craven, and Sterling Marlin, who all raced for years before getting their first Cup win. How's that for some reasonable logic?!!
 
Can't argue there strides............but if you have the first two thirds. it makes the last third easier to deal with.:)
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
Can't argue there strides............but if you have the first two thirds. it makes the last third easier to deal with.:)
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Good point, it does make it easier...but not an automatic. :p
 
With the equipment and team that he had it was possible. I bet if you put anybody else in that seat at the time they would have had the same results


I bet Shawna would have been hell in the 24 car.
 
Yeah, but she wasn't and Gordo was. Besides, she would have been far short of the Championship.
 
I saw Petty in 1967 @Bristol come from 4 laps down to win and I believe that year he won 27 race. He has 200 wins If you ask me that is dominating.
 
LOL at Your Mama. The ol' "anyone could do that" theory. Read earlier posts.

Anyone could have won 200 races in Petty's car....

Anyone could win F1 is Schumachers car...

Anyone could win in John Force's car...

Anyone could win a plate race in a DEI car...

Anyone could win in Steve Kinser's car...

Anyone could win in Jeff Burton's Busch car...

Should I go on? Didn't think so.
 
the thing aboot gordon's season that stands out from the others is that he had far superior equipment than the rest of the field.
if petty, cale, dale, etc. would have had that kind of odds they would have surpassed what they did. these were real men that were muscling around big aerodynamically challenged cars on bias plied tires. today's slick car is closer to ideal than a stocker of the 60's-80's.
 
I voted for Cale. You could make points for them all, but if your scoring more points than anyone in history, thats domination :)
 
Originally posted by Gordon Fan
LMAO!

Same old song and dance:p
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yep, gordon fans always do the same old song and dance because they don't know the past.:rolleyes:
 
Thats strange how long has DW been racing???

I remember him saying that racing has gotin alot more competitive over the years. If you ever watch the biography of alan Kulwicki on speed youll see alot of high people say what he did will prolly never be done again.

But then again what does people like that know.
 
Ok, I'll say it for everybody here. Jeff Gordon is the best driver ever! Jeez, are you happy??


Ok for the real post. Gordon is a good driver...but not the best. He was just in the right place at the right time. He was surrounded by good people and good equipment. He used that to his advantage and therefore has won lots of races and championships.
 
I know all about the past. 1998 is in the past! The question was who do you think had the most dominating championship year, not who is best ever or any of that other bs like equipment, people etc.

Fact is, whether you will ever admit, is that it is alot harder to dominate nowadays with all the parity. Only 2 of the choices were recent and Gordons was way more dominating than Jarrett's. 13 wins in this day and age is unbelievable. Throwing all that other bs in is just excuses.

So you are going to tell me that none of those other guys had one up on the competition during their cup, just Gordon Yeah, okay:rolleyes:

Petty had 27 wins in one year! That is domination, but given that by the lack of rules opposed to now makes it far less of an amazing feat in my eyes.

So is Gordon the best driver ever? Wasn't anywhere in the question.:p
 
So shouldn't Tony Stewart have the most dominating performance because it is the latest championship and racing is getting harder?
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
He was just in the right place at the right time.  He was surrounded by good people and good equipment.  He used that to his advantage and therefore has won lots of races and championships.
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LOL that sounds like the definition for every winston cup champion to me.
 
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