My Opion On Ryan Newman

Seriously go calm down and think before you post. This is not a place to come bash other peoples drivers, and vent your anger.
 
Yes it was just a racing deal, and ryan was going for the win. Ryan has more to lose out of these races then rusty from the way I see it, why should he give or let rusty do anything because they are teammates.

I seriously doubt rusty is going to "pay him back", he might have been mad right after the race but I doubt its that bad at this point.
 
Originally posted by smack500@Oct 25 2004, 04:00 PM
Seriously go calm down and think before you post. This is not a place to come bash other peoples drivers, and vent your anger.
thats my opion if you don't like it tough but I got a right so say what I feel.


*edited by bowtie for inapproiate language*
 
OK, now here's my opinion on Ryan Newman.

Ryan Newman is a modern day David Pearson/Cale Yarbrough cross with enough talent to choke a horse, enough brains to make us all look silly, and enough sense to become a huge star in this sport.

That's my opinion of Ryan Newman.

My opinion of Rusty Wallace is that he is a throwback to a more entertaining era of stock car racing and that when he sent Jaws spinning across Charlotte's infield in The Winston he instantly became a swell guy forever in my book.

Care to hear my opinion of Emeril? :lol:
 
Originally posted by RustyFan4Ever+Oct 25 2004, 04:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RustyFan4Ever @ Oct 25 2004, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-smack500@Oct 25 2004, 04:00 PM
Seriously go calm down and think before you post. This is not a place to come bash other peoples drivers, and vent your anger.
thats my opion if you don't like it tough but I got a right so say what I feel. [/b][/quote]
alright Rustyfan, we've been through this once today. Choose your words wisely from here on out.
 
Originally posted by bowtie+Oct 25 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bowtie @ Oct 25 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by RustyFan4Ever@Oct 25 2004, 04:07 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-smack500
@Oct 25 2004, 04:00 PM
Seriously go calm down and think before you post. This is not a place to come bash other peoples drivers, and vent your anger.

thats my opion if you don't like it tough but I got a right so say what I feel.
alright Rustyfan, we've been through this once today. Choose your words wisely from here on out. [/b][/quote]
Exactly...this is getting ridiculous on all fronts.
 
:eek: I have been a Rusty fan since the start of the '88 season, but I believe he was in the wrong. Rusty went to the outside to try a clean pass on Jimmy, it didn't work. Ryan filled the hole, Rusty has mirrors and a spotter(he knew Ryan was there), but he came down hoping to get Ryan to back off. Ryan is in the Chase- Rusty is not! Sorry Rusty but sometimes you have to own up to your mistakes.
 
Gee, imagine Rusty trying to pass the demonstrated fastest car---on the outside---in a race where passing on the outside was not a good idea. :wacko:

Seems to me he made a bad decision---and expected another driver to fix it for him.

I used to like Rusty---lately seems he has gotten a bit whiny----does not set well on him. :(
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Oct 25 2004, 04:15 PM


My opinion of Rusty Wallace is that he is a throwback to a more entertaining era of stock car racing and that when he sent Jaws spinning across Charlotte's infield in The Winston he instantly became a swell guy forever in my book.

Care to hear my opinion of Emeril? :lol:
I thought that I was the only one to remember the Winston when DW got in Rusty's way. :)

BTW, do you remember the cannonball run that Rusty made across town during rush hour. He started from Hendrick's car dealership on Independence Blvd.
I heard Rusty describe it on radio and it was a blast. I have the newspaper writeup of it on my computer.
 
Wallace asked for Newman to get off his back bumper and that is exactly what he got.

A few years back I heard Rudd make a less than flatering comment about Wallace but I'm not sure where this board stands on drivers bashing other drivers so I keep that one to myself for now.
 
Isn't it great that we can choose to give no blame to our favs and throw it all at the party that took our guy out? :) Been there, done that. As to Rusty, the last time we went to Martinsville, it was the early race and the weather was a bit on the cool, no cold side. Our seats were high up under the press box, so we go absolutely no sun and the wind was terrible. Rusty on that day owned the track and was without a doubt, the class of the field. However, one driver seemed to get in his way that day, one Bobby Hamilton. Rusty tired of trying to get around him and put the chrome bumper on Bobby and sent him spinning. Listening to Bobby on the scanner, we knew how angry Bobby was and I waited to see what Bobby was going to do when the right time came. I almost missed it, but sure enough, Bobby intentionally sent Rusty spinning in turn one. Man, was Rusty pissed, but it didn't deter him from the race and because this incident was fairly early in the race, he was able to fight, scratch and bull his way back to the front. Once again, Rusty was on cloud nine, but because of pit strategy, he didn't win the race. Late in the race, during a caution, he pitted along with many of the front runners, but ol' cagey Mark Martin didn't, as well as quite a few others and, well, as it turned out, Rusty didn't win and Marky did. Though Rusty still was the class of the field, the reason for the story is to show that Rusty can dish things out as much as anyone and he too can get upset as much as the next guy.

So, how many of us fans have been upset with some driver because he spun out, or caused a wreck that involved our main guy? Crap happens and it's called, "racing". Rusty will calm down sooner or later and will remember that one day he will be sitting on the side lines watching Ryan trying to approach his record of wins.

Peace brother. :)
 
Mixed emotions on this one. I do like Rusty, but as has been said he does tend to "complain" sometimes.
What happened on the track was a racin deal. Both are Hard Runners and have that competitive blood running hot!! I have to admire Rusty on his interview. He had heard about the HMS plane, and I believe Ryan had NOT before his interview. Everyone says things in the "heat of the moment" that may be misconstrued or taken out of context by the listener. Until I can read minds, I will give both the benefit of the doubt. OK???????????????
 
I really didn't see that Ryan did anything wrong, and I'm not a fan of his. Ryan wasn't body slamming Rusty, it was the other way around.
I thought the same about Rusty not being a very good teammate. Of course he never has been to anybody that's been at Penski.

BTW, if you're real content having your driver chock up a couple more wins because someone gave them to him by not racing him good for you. Personally I want my driver to WIN his wins by being the best out there.
 
Originally posted by Eagle1@Oct 25 2004, 07:03 PM
Personally I want my driver to WIN his wins by being the best out there.
...or by laying the bumper to Jeff Gordon at NHIS...



Sorry man, you left that door wide open, I had to walk through it. :lol:
 
Originally posted by smack500@Oct 25 2004, 04:00 PM
Seriously go calm down and think before you post. This is not a place to come bash other peoples drivers, and vent your anger.
I think you need to talk to slick-nick too
 
Originally posted by Handymac@Oct 25 2004, 05:06 PM
Gee, imagine Rusty trying to pass the demonstrated fastest car---on the outside---in a race where passing on the outside was not a good idea. :wacko:

Seems to me he made a bad decision---and expected another driver to fix it for him.

I used to like Rusty---lately seems he has gotten a bit whiny----does not set well on him. :(
Are you for real? "whiny" :wacko: Being a # 6 fan thats a pretty brave statement.
 
I beleive Rusty screwed up by going on the high side. He should have stayed low then Newman would not have the opening on the bottom. Rusty should have stayed on the bottom and rooted Jimmy Johnson out of the way for the win. If he could, which I don't think was possible. B)
 
ohmy.gif I have been a Rusty fan since the start of the '88 season, but I believe he was in the wrong.

I am a fan of rusty's and care very little for newman, and thought newman did nothing wrong. rusty was gambling for the win and got booted to 10th. if rusty was in newman's position i think we may have seen the same thing. rusty could have just taken a 2nd place finish and been happy with that, but he gambled and lost. personally, i like his decision to go for broke there since he isnt in the chase for the championship and is just looking for wins and not points, but i really dont know how he thought he could pass jimmie on the outside at martinsville.
 
Originally posted by MCanyon@Oct 25 2004, 06:46 PM
ohmy.gif I have been a Rusty fan since the start of the '88 season, but I believe he was in the wrong.

I am a fan of rusty's and care very little for newman, and thought newman did nothing wrong. rusty was gambling for the win and got booted to 10th. if rusty was in newman's position i think we may have seen the same thing. rusty could have just taken a 2nd place finish and been happy with that, but he gambled and lost. personally, i like his decision to go for broke there since he isnt in the chase for the championship and is just looking for wins and not points, but i really dont know how he thought he could pass jimmie on the outside at martinsville.
Personally, I think Wallace could have pulled the pass off(even on the outside) if not for Ryan's move. No way to tell for certain of course, but Rusty is without doubt the best at Martinsville.
 
Originally posted by nascarup@Oct 25 2004, 06:43 PM
I beleive Rusty screwed up by going on the high side. He should have stayed low then Newman would not have the opening on the bottom. Rusty should have stayed on the bottom and rooted Jimmy Johnson out of the way for the win. If he could, which I don't think was possible. B)
I agree, but Ryan did not have a car for the win, otherwise he would have won. He could have cut Rusty a break just once, and Rusty owe him one. We have seen this between Jr and Mikey, they were both whiners too and 'Dega or Daytona where ever it was. and being 9th in points ;) I guarantee he won't make up that up unless he takes out all the other cars in the next 4 races. I would have cut my team mate a break.
 
Originally posted by Bucky Badger+Oct 25 2004, 07:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bucky Badger @ Oct 25 2004, 07:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nascarup@Oct 25 2004, 06:43 PM
I beleive Rusty screwed up by going on the high side. He should have stayed low then Newman would not have the opening on the bottom. Rusty should have stayed on the bottom and rooted Jimmy Johnson out of the way for the win. If he could, which I don't think was possible. B)
I agree, but Ryan did not have a car for the win, otherwise he would have won. He could have cut Rusty a break just once, and Rusty owe him one. We have seen this between Jr and Mikey, they were both whiners too and 'Dega or Daytona where ever it was. and being 9th in points ;) I guarantee he won't make up that up unless he takes out all the other cars in the next 4 races. I would have cut my team mate a break. [/b][/quote]
you might have, but would rusty have?
 
Nice av Smack. Got my preorder. Can't wait for November 16th.
 
I don't think Rusty had the car to get past Johnson. He couldn't get past him even when Johnson spun his tires on the restart. And when Johnson recovered now way. :cheers:
 
Originally posted by Steve007@Oct 25 2004, 07:13 PM
Nice av Smack. Got my preorder. Can't wait for November 16th.
(To drift just a little, Smack and I were just discussing HL2...sounds very cool)

Sorry for the thread drift. :cheers:
 
Originally posted by smack500+Oct 25 2004, 07:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (smack500 @ Oct 25 2004, 07:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Bucky Badger@Oct 25 2004, 07:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-nascarup
@Oct 25 2004, 06:43 PM
I beleive Rusty screwed up by going on the high side. He should have stayed low then Newman would not have the opening on the bottom. Rusty should have stayed on the bottom and rooted Jimmy Johnson out of the way for the win. If he could, which I don't think was possible. B)

I agree, but Ryan did not have a car for the win, otherwise he would have won. He could have cut Rusty a break just once, and Rusty owe him one. We have seen this between Jr and Mikey, they were both whiners too and 'Dega or Daytona where ever it was. and being 9th in points ;) I guarantee he won't make up that up unless he takes out all the other cars in the next 4 races. I would have cut my team mate a break.
you might have, but would rusty have? [/b][/quote]
I think so.
 
Pardon me, Bucky. I can see you are a person of discrimination---and not one to see the truth.
 
Ryan isn't going to let anyone by. That is one thing you can count on with him. I don't blame him either. If you are going to get passed make em earn it.
 
Originally posted by Tabasco@Oct 26 2004, 12:48 AM
Ryan isn't going to let anyone by. That is one thing you can count on with him. I don't blame him either. If you are going to get passed make em earn it.
Isn't that called racing. :lol:
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum+Oct 25 2004, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EatMorePossum @ Oct 25 2004, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Eagle1@Oct 25 2004, 07:03 PM
Personally I want my driver to WIN his wins by being the best out there.
...or by laying the bumper to Jeff Gordon at NHIS...



Sorry man, you left that door wide open, I had to walk through it. :lol: [/b][/quote]
Actually EMP, I wasn't a Robby fan at that time but I thought he only did what I saw JG, Rusty, DE and others do many times before. :lol:

I gotta tell ya, if I was that close to my first win in NNC you better hope you're not the one in front of me. :XXROFL:
 
Are you for real? "whiny"&nbsp; Being a # 6 fan thats a pretty brave statement.

When has Mark whined anything close to Rusty's excuses?

Oh, yeah, Mark 'whined' on one occasion---when totally frustrated, tired, and dejected. Gee, one time out of how many hundred interviews?

I made no reference to you---just the driver whom you espouse.

I could have been really sarcastic and said Rusty whines as bad as Jeff Gordon---but even Rusty does not deserve that slam. ;)
 
We have seen this between Jr and Mikey, they were both whiners too and 'Dega or Daytona where ever it was.

[sarcasm]Why don't you dare, don't you dare, go around bashing these fine upstanding drivers that way. What gives you the right to bash them. Why I bet you couldn't even hold their jock strap in a tiddlywinks contest.
You, you, basher, you...[/sarcasm]
 
Originally posted by barelypure@Oct 26 2004, 09:34 AM
We have seen this between Jr and Mikey, they were both whiners too and 'Dega or Daytona where ever it was.

[sarcasm]Why don't you dare, don't you dare, go around bashing these fine upstanding drivers that way. What gives you the right to bash them. Why I bet you couldn't even hold their jock strap in a tiddlywinks contest.
You, you, basher, you...[/sarcasm]
LOL, If I had their jock strap, that would sell very well on ebay..............sneaks into Mikey's motor home!!!!! :D
 
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