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This is starting to get some media coverage again. So, who are your picks for the first 5 to get inducted. And then, who are your next five picks for the following year. The first 5 are a little tough as it is a toss-up between Cale Yarborough and Junior Johnson, IMHO. The other 4 are a shoo-in.
 
pickin the first 5.......... THAT would be hard...... but I know some I would think that should be picked...... not that they will.......... Red Byron- First Champion, should be a given. Richard Petty- King, nuff said.....lol, name a record and there's a good chance he owns it. Dale Earnhardt- need I say more...... Ned Jarrett- 2 time champ and the best ambassador NASCAR could ask for. Junior Johnson- one of the winningest car owners, AND winningest driver to not win a championship.............

maybe the second year......... Lee Petty- first 3 time champ, Fred Lorenzen- first driver to win more than 100,000 dollars, Joe Weatherly- back to back champ, killed tragically the next year. David Pearson- think how many more races he may have won running an entire season. Wendell Scott- broke the race barrier, and had several good years driving others left overs......

and haven't even started with Panch, Turner, Fireball, Flock, Teague, Buck Baker, Cale, and lots of lots more.........

bad thing is those are just drivers....... need seperate catogories for car builders, engine guys, etc......... I mean people like Smokey Yunick, Raynond Parks, Cotton Owens, Glen and Leonard Wood, Carl Keikhafer, I could go on and on..........
 
I don't think the first five are really hard. IMHO, of course.

Bill France, Sr
Richard Petty
David Pearson
Dale Earnhardt
Cale Yarborough or Junior Johnson

The others would come in subsequent years.
 
I know they want to limit the selection to just five each year and that is great, but I think they should get the ball rolling with at least ten maybe even twenty when they open and then limit it to five. It's going to be very hard to put someone like Richard Petty in and leave out David Pearson. If they only start with five, there is going to be a lot of controversy for sure.

Just as a side note question, think of this. If you were voting and the choices were between Davey Allison, Alan Kulwiki and Mark Martin, who would you vote for and why? Does anyone think that Davey will ever make it to the HOF? I do believe that Marky will once he has really retired, and quite possibly Alan, but when you look at Kulwiki's specs, it isn't impressive with the exception that he beat the very best one year.

It's going to be tough for those who vote.
 
If they limit it to 5 per year, the first 2 or 3 years won't be too hard.
But after that, it will start getting tough.

buck, if it comes down to Davey, Alan, and Mark in one year, I'd have to go with Mark. Davey showed flashes of brilliance. As you said, Alan was great for one year. Mark has shown talent for his whole career. Yes, he hasn't won a ring, but what he has given to the sport wins over the other 2.

And my first class
Bill France, Sr.
Richard
David
Dale
Junior Johnson
 
TexasRaceLady said:
If they limit it to 5 per year, the first 2 or 3 years won't be too hard.
But after that, it will start getting tough.

buck, if it comes down to Davey, Alan, and Mark in one year, I'd have to go with Mark. Davey showed flashes of brilliance. As you said, Alan was great for one year. Mark has shown talent for his whole career. Yes, he hasn't won a ring, but what he has given to the sport wins over the other 2.

And my first class
Bill France, Sr.
Richard
David
Dale
Junior Johnson
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Yeah, the fifth choice is the tough one. Cale Yarborough or Junior Johnson.

The choices will really get tough in subsequent years. Depends on what is considered, especially in the case of say, Tim Richmond, who had much, much, potential.
 
can't believe I didn't mention Big Bill.....lol..... was too busy thinkin bout drivers. Another one that needs to be in there..... T Taylor Warren..... he was THE photographer from the beginnin until last year when he passed. I definately agree that the initial induction should be much larger than 5....... too many deservin people that will be overlooked.......
I also agree with the Davey- Alan, thing. Sometimes historians vote with their heart instead of commen sense....... Davey was goin to be really good, but fate intervened........ While the guy with him in the crash, Red Farmer is barely remembered today..... had a much longer and better career...... Alan, well, Alan won the championship, it was a great story, but it took alot of factors for him to pick up the title...... other than that, not much on the resume.......
I just really hope that they look at alot of different things before puttin in people.......
 
speedwayphoto said:
can't believe I didn't mention Big Bill.....lol..... was too busy thinkin bout drivers. Another one that needs to be in there..... T Taylor Warren..... he was THE photographer from the beginnin until last year when he passed. I definately agree that the initial induction should be much larger than 5....... too many deservin people that will be overlooked.......
I also agree with the Davey- Alan, thing. Sometimes historians vote with their heart instead of commen sense....... Davey was goin to be really good, but fate intervened........ While the guy with him in the crash, Red Farmer is barely remembered today..... had a much longer and better career...... Alan, well, Alan won the championship, it was a great story, but it took alot of factors for him to pick up the title...... other than that, not much on the resume.......
I just really hope that they look at alot of different things before puttin in people.......
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One major factor was Davey was taken out.
 
Read an article on this at the Scene. They listed France Sr. and Jr., Junior Johnson, Richard Petty and David Pearson as the first five, saying that Ironhead was of the modern era whereas those other five were there from the start.

I can see it now that if they leave out Dale Earnhardt from the first bunch, there will be not just a loud din, but a major outcry from the public. As an ABE'er, I do recognize what that man did for the sport, but I have to agree with the author on this. But this is exactly what I meant when I said there should be more than five in the first year.

Can't wait to hear the roar from those fans of anyone who doesn't make it on the first year.

What do you think about having different categories such as driver, owner, crew, sponsor? Sponsor you ask? Anyone who has been a fan of this sport over the years knows what RJ Reynolds meant to the sport and with RJR came T. Wayne Roberston and what a big person he was to the sport. Regardless of how they handle it, there will be many people involved in the sport who will be left out.

On a side note, to the NFL fans...would you think that Ray Guy should be in the NFL HOF? There will always be superstars that will be left out.
 
buckaroo said:
I believe that Wendell will make, especially in the political climate we have today. Wendell's major accomplishment was that he broke the color barrier. His stats weren't all that stellar.
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neither was his equipment, or crews....... what he did with what he had, all the while puttin I think it was 9 kids through college...... pretty impressive.
 
buckaroo said:
I believe that Wendell will make, especially in the political climate we have today. Wendell's major accomplishment was that he broke the color barrier. His stats weren't all that stellar.
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Wikipedia said:
Early racing career

Scott began racing in 1947 on local tracks in hobby, amateur and sportsman classes. He met with gradually increasing success. In 1959, he won 22 races, the Richmond track championship and the Virginia state sportsman title.

NASCAR career

In 1961, he moved up to the NASCAR Grand National (now Sprint Cup) division. In the 1963 season, he finished 15th in points, and on December 1 that year, driving a Chevrolet Bel Air purchased from Ned Jarrett, he won a race on the one-mile dirt track at Speedway Park in Jacksonville, Florida -- the first and to date only top level NASCAR event won by an African-American. Scott was not announced as the winner of the race at the time, presumably due to the racist culture of the time. Buck Baker, the second-place driver, was declared the winner until NASCAR issued a correction a few days later.

He continued to be a competitive driver despite his low-budget operation through the rest of the 1960s. In 1964, Scott finished 12th in points despite missing several races. Over the next five years, Scott consistently finished in the top ten in the point standings. He finished 11th in points in 1965, was a career-high 6th in 1966, 10th in 1967, and finished 9th in both 1968 and '69. His top year in winnings was 1969 when he won $47,451. [1]
He was forced to retire due to injuries from a racing accident at Talladega, Alabama in 1973. He achieved one win and 147 top ten finishes in 495 career Grand National starts.
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