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NASCAR Says No to Liquor Sponsorships

By MIKE HARRIS
AP Motorsports Writer

(Richmond Times News)


SONOMA, Calif. (AP) -- NASCAR has rejected Roush Racing's bid to sign a hard liquor company as primary sponsor for Jeff Burton's No. 99 Ford.

Though beer and malt liquor sponsors are allowed by NASCAR, spirits advertising is not permitted at any of its events or as team sponsors.

Roush had negotiated a deal with British liquor giant Diageo, but it was contingent on NASCAR changing its policy that began in the days when many counties in the South were dry.

"Although we understand the sponsorship situation with the No. 99 entry, it is very unlikely at this time that we would change such a long-standing policy for this instance," NASCAR president Mike Helton told The Associated Press on Friday.

However, he said the sanctioning organization will continue internal discussions about the hard liquor ban.

Geoff Smith, president of Roush Racing, said he was disappointed but not surprised by the decision.

"We've been working together with them to assess all the historical and current reasons why that policy exists and see if there were any reasons why it should be revised," Smith said. "My personal opinion is that 95 percent of their objection was just that - history."

A decision by TV networks years ago to also ban hard liquor ads reinforced NASCAR's policy even as fewer counties remained dry. But with the growth of cable, more TV channels are starting to air such ads.

NASCAR's position, however, remains unchanged.

Smith said he believes the general public does not make a distinction between beer and distilled spirits.

He said the team's relationship will continue with Diageo, whose Smirnoff Ice malt beverage sponsors Roush driver Matt Kenseth. Diageo manufacturers a number of brands of hard liquor, including Johnnie Walker, J&B and Jose Cuervo.

Jim Beam sponsors a car in the IRL and Crown Royal is the series sponsor for IROC, which includes NASCAR drivers.

Burton's entry, which had a series of sponsorships for anywhere from one to three races this season, continues looking for someone to pay the bills.

When asked if the team is committed to running Burton the rest of the season even without a sponsor, Smith shrugged.

"The plan is for him to run the entire schedule, but we have to find some money somewhere, soon," Smith said
 
Sorry, Burton, you're not big enough in Nascar to have that one changed. Try winning a championship and see how many changes get made.
 
NASCAR has to take other considerations into it's sponsorship - like the FCC. I don't recall seeing any hard liquor currently advertised on tv. They won't risk tv revenue so that Roush Racing can cut costs for fielding Jeff <g>
 
Originally posted by SlowNeasy@Jun 26 2004, 07:55 AM
NASCAR has to take other considerations into it's sponsorship - like the FCC. I don't recall seeing any hard liquor currently advertised on tv. They won't risk tv revenue so that Roush Racing can cut costs for fielding Jeff <g>
There is no FCC rule banning hard liquor advertising.

Currently the broadcast networks do no accept hard liquor advertising. Some cable networks do accept hard liquor advertising, but, to the best of my knowledge, they slate it to air after 9 pm.

However, that hasn't stopped Crown Royal from sponsoring the IROC series. Granted the viewership is lower and it's on cable, but there haven't been any consequences to having that sponsorship (and advertising) run before 9 pm on cable.

As to most people not drawing a difference between beer and liquor, I would disagree with that. Most people draw a difference simply because the state they live in regulates them diffrently. Most state allow beer sales in a much wider variety of establishments than liguor sales. You can buy beer almost anywhere, but you can only buy liquor at a liquor store.
 
In the eyes of many, including MADD, there is a difference in hard liquor and beer. wine, and malt liquor. The vocal activists would likely start making noise and NASCAR is not ready to defend their decisions on things like this............I don't blame them either. It would be nothing but a negative distraction. Something like that could make it politically incorrect for even beer companies to sponsor teams........we don't need any more sponsorship woes than we have now. The politically correct machine is very strong and very active. Until that changes, I don't see how hard liquor can ever enter the NASCAR sponsorship arena.
 
I'd have to agree with DE on this one, by allowing hard liqour sponsorships it would just cause more problems in the Nascar world. Seems to me with all of Rouschs' pull in the racing world he should be able to find a sponsor for that 99, or maybe it is time to scale back, after all he has 5 teams plus his hand in a few others. ;)
 
It isn't a big surprise. NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.
 
Originally posted by Sam FT@Jun 26 2004, 11:35 PM
It isn't a big surprise. NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.
Good point. But there's still one thing I'm really wondering about. (I read it somewhere and it made me think.) If they want this to be family oriented, then why is there a Viagra car? I mean, if they can have Viagra sponsor a car and consider it family friendly, then what's wrong with liquor IMO.
 
Originally posted by hurrikahne9+Jun 27 2004, 12:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hurrikahne9 @ Jun 27 2004, 12:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Sam FT@Jun 26 2004, 11:35 PM
It isn't a big surprise.&nbsp; NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.
Good point. But there's still one thing I'm really wondering about. (I read it somewhere and it made me think.) If they want this to be family oriented, then why is there a Viagra car? I mean, if they can have Viagra sponsor a car and consider it family friendly, then what's wrong with liquor IMO. [/b][/quote]
Well you know what they say.....Sex Sells.
 
Originally posted by hurrikahne9+Jun 26 2004, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hurrikahne9 @ Jun 26 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Sam FT@Jun 26 2004, 11:35 PM
It isn't a big surprise.&nbsp; NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.
Good point. But there's still one thing I'm really wondering about. (I read it somewhere and it made me think.) If they want this to be family oriented, then why is there a Viagra car? I mean, if they can have Viagra sponsor a car and consider it family friendly, then what's wrong with liquor IMO. [/b][/quote]
You might not have the family if you don't have the Viagra in the first place though ^_^
 
I wonder how old the scotch is that the France family drinks?

I guess I should ask my friends to please not drink any Liquor while watching nascar.

What a bunch of ^&%$#@$ hipocrites!
 
I just can't understand how a person like Derick Cope or some of those space takers on the track can get sponsers but a great driver like Jeff can't get squat. I've always wondered that...
 
Well, probably Arnolds team is only getting 4 or 5 million a year, and Rousch is trying to get $16-20 million a year.
 
Originally posted by Eagle1@Jun 27 2004, 12:17 PM
Well, probably Arnolds team is only getting 4 or 5 million a year, and Rousch is trying to get $16-20 million a year.
Yeah, it sounds like Jack is pricing the 99 team out of the market............but then that's the name of the game. If Jack thinks his team is worth 16 million then it's his prerogative to hold out for it. However, it's getting pretty obvious to me that sponsors are holding out for less. Classic free market politics. Someone's got to give a little.........I say it's the teams who will end up taking less. :D Like everything else in this sport, it will all level out for a while and then the cycle will begin again.
 
Originally posted by gordon24fan+Jun 27 2004, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gordon24fan @ Jun 27 2004, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -hurrikahne9@Jun 26 2004, 09:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Sam FT
@Jun 26 2004, 11:35 PM
It isn't a big surprise.  NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.

Good point. But there's still one thing I'm really wondering about. (I read it somewhere and it made me think.) If they want this to be family oriented, then why is there a Viagra car? I mean, if they can have Viagra sponsor a car and consider it family friendly, then what's wrong with liquor IMO.
You might not have the family if you don't have the Viagra in the first place though ^_^ [/b][/quote]
:XXROFL: true. never thought of that. lol
 
I disagree, especially with the 'distinction' between hard liquor and beer.

Alcohol is alcohol.

I would wager that beer consumption nationwide is much higher than hard liquor. Plus, I think it's hard to argue that if families are able to explain why there is a Budweiser, Miller Lite and Coors sponsered car, that their family structure would crumble under the pressure of a Smirnoff sponsered car...oh wait...I'm too late on that one...:lol:

That's another good point there...I doubt most adults think of Smirnoff Malt beverages before they think of Vodka.

Either let alcoholic sponsors in or don't....period.

:cheers:
(oh the irony)
 
Logic does not always rule in this world. What you say is absolutely true. And to most any thinking person it is also absolutely true. However, there is a very large and very powerful activist group that will punch "holes" in everything you say........are you ready to stand up to the world a "prove" every word of your statement? That group will take shots at you using barely true "facts" to back themselves up...........and it's going to be up to you to prove them wrong. In the process, you stand a very good chance of losing even beer sponsorship. No one wants to get into it with the politically correct crowd..........they are too shrill to get yourself heard by the public. It's easy to sit here and say what it should be (and be right about that too), but nearly impossible to shout over the ones who have all the ammo they need to shoot you down......and they will.

NASCAR is being smart to stay out of it. The politically correct in this country has more power than common sense and even more power than the law. Until people wake up, that's the way it will be. You are right, but you are so very "wrong"........and right does not win in this climate.
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jun 27 2004, 07:24 PM
Logic does not always rule in this world. .....

NASCAR is being smart to stay out of it.&nbsp; The politically correct in this country has more power than common sense and even more power than the law.&nbsp; Until people wake up, that's the way it will be.&nbsp; You are right, but you are so very "wrong"........and right does not win in this climate.
I agree whole heartedly with that!

And I understand that it is Nascar's best interest 'financially' to stay out of it. I personally think Nascar IS one of the most family conscious sports organizations out there. I really appreciate their respect of veterans day, mother's day...etc...

Once you've crossed over a line, to start agreeing with people on the other side just to save a little face, is just a little weak... I hate wishy-washy stuff like this....

But my big question is ....when did logic ever rule in this world?? I must have missed it! HA!

Great post!

:cheers:
 
Originally posted by gordon24fan+Jun 27 2004, 01:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gordon24fan @ Jun 27 2004, 01:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -hurrikahne9@Jun 26 2004, 09:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Sam FT
@Jun 26 2004, 11:35 PM
It isn't a big surprise.  NASCAR wants to have it has close to a family sports as possibly.

Good point. But there's still one thing I'm really wondering about. (I read it somewhere and it made me think.) If they want this to be family oriented, then why is there a Viagra car? I mean, if they can have Viagra sponsor a car and consider it family friendly, then what's wrong with liquor IMO.
You might not have the family if you don't have the Viagra in the first place though ^_^ [/b][/quote]
You might not have the family without the liquor either.
 
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