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Ok , so the commision has met...... SPA is GONE ! and with the new tracks coming on line in asia it is probably gone forever.
Tires can now be made for each team, instead of just 2 compounds. Now BMW and Williams can each have a specific tire.
Teams will now qualify in a 2 day session more like CART. They will run friday, one car at a time. This will set the order for the saturday session. The fast car on friday will run first on saturday and the saturday time will be used for the grid.
The points have been changed. 10,8,6,5,4,3,2,and 1 for eigth.
 
losing Spa is perhaps the stupidist thing they could have done. You will never be able to convince me that there wasn't some way to get a new sponsor for one of the most anticipated (and watched) races of the year. I blame the "senile ol' man" and the promoter of the Belgium GP....wait a min' .....they are one in the same! BERNIE

I like the tire rule, it should eliminate Michilens either - or problem.
I like the points change. I wish they had went back 10 places, but 8 will get us past the big 6 problem.
The new quilifying rule is silly. On tracks that have little action and get quicker as rubber gets laid down I would turn a very very slow friday lap, giving me the last lap on saturday. Why not run friday based on points (ferarri first) then reverse the order saturday....and ADD the times together......?
 
This can even things out a little but wont solve the ferrari problem. Dropping spa is bullsh#t! that is an awsome course and should still be raced on.
 
not only are they dropping spa but they are not replacing it so there will only be 16 rounds next year :mad: I can't see why they would do such a thing.

On another note, top 8 with points is better.
 
No Spa....It's almost mind-boggling to think that one of F1's greatest racetracks will lie dormant next year because of stupid laws. How long before the rest of the tracks are dropped too?

Hmm come to think of it, I guess this means that the so called "revival" of F1 that is happening here in the US will have to die out because we don't allow tobacco advertising either.....

As much as people complain about the current state of F1 racing, no passing etc., someone explain to me how making the points go farther back is a good thing? Looking at Nascar's point system and you see a system geared to allow someone who runs in the top 10 win a title. Does F1 want that too? How's that going to improve the racing? If anything the points need bigger gaps between places, leaving the runners no choice but to try and win week in and week out. I'm tired of this points racing crap that we see all the time.
 
Team Orders

Team orders that interfere with the race result are prohibited.

Seems to me like that was a very smart move too. This yrs team orders really turned F1 into a laughing stock to some people. It also discredited the series as a whole.
 
I would have liked for the points gap to be kept at the current levels too. A system of 12,8,6,5,4,3,2,1 would have done that. I like the NASCAR system, 5 pts for leading a lap, and 5 pts for most lead is a good thing, but the winner should get a premium...say 25 pts.
Paying points back to 8th is a good move for F1 because of the dominance of the top 6 cars. For the lesser teams to score a point (all season) the needed for somthing to happen to the top of the grid. This made the race for fourth in the championship more luck than anything.
 
Making a rule about team orders isn't going to stop it.

Shumacher spun out on purpose last year to let Rubens extend his lead (and he still had a hard time fighting Shumacher off).

They can do it without being so obvious.
 
Team orders have been a part of Grand Prix racing dating back for more than 50 years.

Those that think Ferrari discredited the sport either have a short memory...or are just uneducated about what they are watching. It is a PART of F1.
 
What I think got people ina tizzy was that it was unnecessary on their part. They were already running away with the title and lightyears ahead of the rest of the teams.

Had the points race been closer I don't think anyone would have objected.
 
That's great hindsight...that it was unnecessary. But as we've seen in the past (as recently as 1999 when Schumacher broke his leg) anything can happen. Its best to have the championship wrapped up as soon as humanly possible. I can't blame Ferrari for their choice of methods...they're just doing their job. It sure is hard to argue with the results over the past several years, isn't it?

My response...is if you don't like it, don't blame them...blame the rest of the teams that aren't able to challenge them.

This wouldn't even be an issue if somone could build a competitive package.
 
Oh I definately agree that there's nothing wrong with it. I just thought it was a bit overkill, I kinda rolled my eyes when they did it. Kinda like running up the score in a football game.

If it were my team would I do it? You bet your ass.
 
Originally posted by paul
Making a rule about team orders isn't going to stop it.

Shumacher spun out on purpose last year to let Rubens extend his lead (and he still had a hard time fighting Shumacher off).  

They can do it without being so obvious.

I agree with you there. I don't have a problem with team orders when it comes to something like what happend at the nascar race. That didn't help Mark win the race, that just helped him gain a couple of points. I'd much rather watch a race that's an actual race then to have someone decide who is going to win.

I've never watched too much of F1 so I'm really not familiar with all the rules and what not, but regardless of the league, I don't agree with the way the team orders were handled. That's just my personal preference. Like I said, letting someone lead a few laps to help gain a few points is one thing, letting someone win is another. I just don't care for the latter. :)
 
"Motorsport's governing body, the FIA, has categorically stated that the Belgian Grand Prix will not feature on the 2003 Formula 1 calendar, even if Belgian politicians agree to relax their country's stance on tobacco advertising." -- www.autosport.com

So it appears the tobacco issue was used to axe the best grand prix, to me anyway. I saw a story last week (can't remember where - sorry) that claimed the real issue with Spa was about track amenities, not tobacco ads. I think Autosport's claim verifies this - or else why wouldn't the FIA reinstate Spa if the tobacco issues were resolved?

Freakin idiots!!
 
I'm glad they outlawed team orders, though I agree they could possibly do it less obviously. To me, ordering one of your drivers to let the other pass (for any reason) is the antithesis of racing, no matter how long it's gone on. :mad:

I mean, if they're going to promote F1 as the greatest auto racing series on Earth, they should do away with tactics like that.

I am also glad they haven't instituted rules to artificially level the playing field. Idiotic rules like that are why all Winston Cup car bodies will essentially be identical next year.
 
People that have been watching the sport for any length of time are not upset over team orders.

People are really showing their age...
 
Well, what the hell's wrong with longtime F1 fans, then? People should be bothered by that. :takethat:

Yeah, I'm 23 (SFW?). And I haven't been watching F1 all that long. Perhaps more people here in the US would watch F1 if "The World's Greatest Drivers" didn't pull over to let their teammates pass. And if there was more passing overall. I mean jeez, it's like a parade sometimes.
 
Exactly, don't watch it.

If you think that NASCAR is the perfect sport you're terribly mistaken. All sports have their faults but for you to come in here and insult it and the fans is pretty lame.
 
Allow me...

McB, you've been caught holding the bloody knife of ignorance hunched right over the body of truth. You murderer, I sentence you back to junior high: This time finish it and move on to high school. An education can keep you out of other institutions.

Alright...I'm just kidding. Here's a brief education to get you started...

Seriously....

Perhaps you ought to read this about the history of Team Orders in F1. http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ftdt047.html

There IS passing in F1. I've seen it with my own eyes at every single F1 race I've attended or watched on television. I can't force you to see it...and I can't force you to read about it...but its there.
 
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