New Tech Rules for all 3 series

Might also be in response to recent aero development under the cars. That's where Cup teams have been working since the reduction in downforce implemented before the season started.
 
Off topic (I think): At Kentucky, I noticed several Gibbs cars had the left skirt splayed out nearly 45 degrees from vertical - as the cars left pit lane to begin pace laps. Didn't see the right side, nor other non-Gibbs cars, so maybe they were all the same. But at least on the ones I saw, the idea of in-race damage is pretty far fetched.
 
So in spite of wiggle room in the tech rules that allow the teams to develop some areas of the car, does anyone here take offense when they see others refer to Nascar as a "spec series".
 
LewTheShoe said:
Off topic (I think): At Kentucky, I noticed several Gibbs cars had the left skirt splayed out nearly 45 degrees from vertical - as the cars left pit lane to begin pace laps. Didn't see the right side, nor other non-Gibbs cars, so maybe they were all the same. But at least on the ones I saw, the idea of in-race damage is pretty far fetched.
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They all looked the same. NBC pointed this out. In fact, they showed the cars coming off of pit lane before the pace laps--- all straight. Then, showed the bowed out prior to first pit. All manufacturers--same thing....I suspect for the same reason.
 
TwoZero said:
So in spite of wiggle room in the tech rules that allow the teams to develop some areas of the car, does anyone here take offense when they see others refer to Nascar as a "spec series".
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Nascar teams are forced to operate in a pretty tight box, that is beyond dispute. But there are four major and several more minor engine builders. There are many teams building chassis and bodies. We have endless debates about who has the best equipment, and who has lesser stuff (all among bucks-up, fully-funded teams).

To me, the Indycar scene is much more sterile, and part of the reason is that all the chassis come from the same production line, and all the engines (from two builders) live or die by juggling the boost rules.

F1 has devolved into an engineering project that has no room, nor any money, left for racers. The cars cannot even be operated without a team of engineers hooked up by data streams. An odd mix of highly paid drivers and pay drivers who bought their seats. But no matter who is in the ****pit, the car will qualify and circulate based on the engineering team that designed it

It's hard to argue with Nascar's vibrant financial and competitive success. I'm a fan of most forms of motorsports, but the two best racing scenes on the planet are Nascar and MotoGP... just my opinion of course.
 
During the Kentucky race the guys in the booth were saying that the cars were bottoming out on the track and bending the side flaps outward.
 
Revman said:
They all looked the same. NBC pointed this out. In fact, they showed the cars coming off of pit lane before the pace laps--- all straight. Then, showed the bowed out prior to first pit. All manufacturers--same thing....I suspect for the same reason.
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BobbyFord said:
During the Kentucky race the guys in the booth were saying that the cars were bottoming out on the track and bending the side flaps outward.
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Not all the same at the beginning of the race. At 14 minutes into the broadcast (7:44 pm ET) the cars are on pace laps, the NBC crew is interviewing Kyle Busch, and the 18 and 19 left side skirts are clearly bent out at a considerable angle. The 78 is bent but less angle. The 4, 2, 41, and 22 are in the same camera shot, and theirs are straight.
 
LewTheShoe said:
Not all the same at the beginning of the race. At 14 minutes into the broadcast (7:44 pm ET) the cars are on pace laps, the NBC crew is interviewing Kyle Busch, and the 18 and 19 left side skirts are clearly bent out at a considerable angle. The 78 is bent but less angle. The 4, 2, 41, and 22 are in the same camera shot, and theirs are straight.
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They freakin' showed the cars in slow motion, and LeTarte specifically stated that this was not manufacturer dependent, but I'm glad you are focused on the side skirts--my TRD boys have been experimenting with a blower out of the hood, and we were all hoping that the side skirts would provide a distraction. It worked!
 
^ LOL. The blower (on that Toyota motor) might explain why the 78 was so fast, and guzzled so much gas. How'd that work for ya? :D
 
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LewTheShoe said:
^ LOL. The blower (on that Toyota motor) might explain why the 78 was so fast, and guzzled so much gas. How'd that work for ya? :D
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Secretly working on hybrid power to address this issue. :D Keep looking at the side skirts. Ignore the plug in power on pit stops. :p
 
The pit crew used to bend the rear quarter panel out in front of the rear wheel last year and NASCAR had to deal with that. Then NASCAR had to deal with a shoulder bump that did a similar areo mod. Last week I thought I noticed the rear quarter panel bent in on the 2 car at speed (I'm not positive), I wonder if they figured out how to get the metal to flex from the air pressure. The teams continue to find ways to expand the box that NASCAR has to define.
 
Revman said:
Secretly working on hybrid power to address this issue. :D Keep looking at the side skirts. Ignore the plug in power on pit stops. :p
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