Newman.....bad feelings to SHR still?

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Ryan Newman was told shortly after mid-season in 2013 that his services would no longer be required at Stewart-Haas Racing at season’s end.

The reason: Newman was told there wasn’t enough sponsorship to keep him.

By all appearances, it appeared to be a business decision by SHR, particularly since Kevin Harvickwas headed there to assume driving for the company’s third Sprint Cup team in addition to Tony Stewart and Danica Patrick.

Even winning the 2013 Brickyard 400 didn’t make a difference. Even eventually being the only SHR driver to make the 2013 Chase for the Sprint Cup didn’t make a difference, either.

Newman was going to be gone at season’s end.

But after being told there wasn’t enough money to run Newman in a fourth car, SHR majority owner Gene Haas went out and hired Kurt Busch to run a fourth car for the team in 2014.





ou might think Newman would still carry some bitterness from all that, or that he might hold some glee inside now that Busch was eliminated from the Chase while Newman – with his new team at Richard Childress Racing – advanced to the second round.

Actually, Newman considers that not to be a big deal.

“No, not at all,” Newman said at this week’s Contender Round media day, adding to the reporter that posed the question, “I hadn’t thought about it until you just said it, honestly.”

Newman’s release was the second time SHR has raised eyebrows after questionable personnel moves.

In 2011, Darian Grubb was told before the Chase that he would be out as Tony Stewart’s crew chief at the end of that season.

In perhaps one of the most ironic turnabouts in NASCAR history, Grubb then helped Stewart go from winless in the 26-race regular season to win a series-high five races in the 10-race Chase, ultimately capped off with Stewart’s third championship in 10 seasons.

To their credit, Grubb and Newman have not publicly gloated at the misfortunes their former organization has gone through since their respective departures.

Newman even is quite sympathetic to both Stewart and the family of Kevin Ward Jr., after the latter was killed following being struck by Stewart’s car during a dirt track race in upstate New York on August 9.

“I’ve really only talked to him a little bit,” Newman said of Stewart. “I can only imagine what he’s going through emotionally and mentally.

“After a situation like that, it’s hard for anybody to say that you could ever be the same, whether it’s to the media or SHR or his friends or anybody else.”

While he still cares for his old friend, when Newman was asked if SHR will be able to rebound from Stewart’s recent troubles, Newman gave a slight hint of possibly how he really feels about his old organization as a whole.

“I don’t know, I don’t care,” Newman said with a slight chuckle. “If somebody’s a competitor of yours or a co-worker of yours that stubs his toe and has a bad day and affects you, does it really matter?”

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Newman is to good with words to get caught in, he said games.
 
Newman is to good with words to get caught in, he said games.

Thanks for weighing in. I think that there is some hurt feelings inside there and likley will be for some time
 
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Thanks for weighing in. I think that there is some hurt feelings inside there and likley will be for some time

Not really. Maybe he felt jabbed at first but he's moved on from that.

Newman is a business man so he knows this is part of the deal and holding grudges dont get you far in this sport. Or any other for that matter.

He may drive for SHR again one day so you cant burn bridges.

Like Kurt, he knows a thing or two about burning down bridges. lol
 
Newman has had a great year for the equipment, he did a good for SHR as well. He just looses in the marketing game. I don't like it but money is an essential, if not the biggest at least one the biggest.

A lot of compromises or personal feelings have to be sacrificed. He
has handled it professionally and with class imo.
 
It is funny how they couldn't retain Newman because of sponsorship, yet Quicken Loans stuck with him and Haas has to fund Kurt out of his own pocket. Yet Newman is still having a better year. I think he's pleased with the position he's in.
 
i really don't think Tony wanted him, just his best option to get at the time
 
I doubt Newman has any sour grapes, the move to RCR has worked out well for him.
I wouldn't really say that. if I was him even now SHR is the better team right now. newman also pretty much had richmond won too if not for spin gate. the only thing newman can look at is haas traded newman for kurt which IMO hasn't works out very well. kurt was better in the 78 car. I know they won a race but have been terrible. actually kurt probably ran the 51 car better.
 
Not really. Maybe he felt jabbed at first but he's moved on from that.

Newman is a business man so he knows this is part of the deal and holding grudges dont get you far in this sport. Or any other for that matter.

He may drive for SHR again one day so you cant burn bridges.

Like Kurt, he knows a thing or two about burning down bridges. lol

Is this one of them be careful of the face you badmouth, it might be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow type of things? ;)
 
I wouldn't really say that. if I was him even now SHR is the better team right now. newman also pretty much had richmond won too if not for spin gate. the only thing newman can look at is haas traded newman for kurt which IMO hasn't works out very well. kurt was better in the 78 car. I know they won a race but have been terrible. actually kurt probably ran the 51 car better.
He has a better driver rating this year and he's been more of a factor in the Chase.
 
It is funny how they couldn't retain Newman because of sponsorship, yet Quicken Loans stuck with him and Haas has to fund Kurt out of his own pocket. Yet Newman is still having a better year. I think he's pleased with the position he's in.

Preface: My post has some speculation, reader beware.

I think signing Kurt was all on Haas and not Tony. Hence Newman has every reason to feel slighted by Haas, but I am not sure about Tony.
The Quicken sponsorship is a huge plus, but it is still only for 12 races or one third of this season, a deal that needed to be paired with something bigger like CATapillar.

http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/31-Childress-NASCAR-Team-News

Unless more needed additional sponsorship was available to keep the 39 rolling, I don't even think it was a choice for Tony. You can't go to the track without the money.
 
Preface: My post has some speculation, reader beware.

I think signing Kurt was all on Haas and not Tony. Hence Newman has every reason to feel slighted by Haas, but I am not sure about Tony.
The Quicken sponsorship is a huge plus, but it is still only for 12 races or one third of this season, a deal that needed to be paired with something bigger like CATapillar.

http://www.jayski.com/news/teams/story/_/page/31-Childress-NASCAR-Team-News

Unless more needed additional sponsorship was available to keep the 39 rolling, I don't even think it was a choice for Tony. You can't go to the track without the money.
Absolutely agree on the Kurt signing being Gene's move.

Newman had 21 races covered last year through personal sponsorships (QL and Wix) and 7 through SHR sponsors (Aspen Dental/Code 3/Outback) with the rest covered by Haas. I don't think it would've been that hard for Gene to keep funding Newman for ten or so races considering he covers Kurt full-time and has an F1 operation beginning, he just saw the way Kurt was performing with FRR and pulled the plug on Newman.

Newman has a much bigger built-in sponsor with RCR in CAT now and they sponsor about the same portion of the season as they did with Burton so QL and Wix don't have to commit as much as they did with SHR.

My theory.
 
non-story imo.

He said he hadnt even thought about it till the question was raised. He prob hasnt thought about it since. Nbd
 
It is funny how they couldn't retain Newman because of sponsorship, yet Quicken Loans stuck with him and Haas has to fund Kurt out of his own pocket. Yet Newman is still having a better year. I think he's pleased with the position he's in.

Many seem to miss these key facts. Tony and Ryan were close, but Tony and Harvick are like brothers. IMO, Tony saw his one chance to get Harvick on his team, and he took it at Ryan's expense. I never bought the 'Gene hired Kurt on his own' BS, and I doubt Newman did either.
 
Tony and Ryan were close,
i don't think they were. never heard nothing out of Tony's mouth but bad pertaining to Newman before he hired him, and then all of a sudden they were teammates and good buds.
 
more speculation .....???

harv had bud & freaky fast locked w/ his mktg org.
sees dillon boys comin......plus prepaid vegas 3rd car at rcr long term. 4th team ???? prolly not .
boom ! ----deal w/ shr .......newman had ta go.

then.........gene gets word kurt is available .
dreams of '14 cup champ w/ haas on hood..... too big ta pass up .
poof ! 4th team.

newman will face same rcr deal in '16..... ty prolly needs another yr ?
hope his chase results can keep cat & quicken
 
more speculation .....???

harv had bud & freaky fast locked w/ his mktg org.
sees dillon boys comin......plus prepaid vegas 3rd car at rcr long term. 4th team ???? prolly not .
boom ! ----deal w/ shr .......newman had ta go.

then.........gene gets word kurt is available .
dreams of '14 cup champ w/ haas on hood..... too big ta pass up .
poof ! 4th team.

newman will face same rcr deal in '16..... ty prolly needs another yr ?
hope his chase results can keep cat & quicken

Why did Newman have to go? He had sponsorship for 2014 at SHR, but SHR said they couldn't expand to 4th team, so Newman was ejected. A month later and poof, they expand to 4 teams to make room for Kurt.

In 2011, Kurt had shopped SHR for a 2012 ride. He even signed up with Tony's marketing firm to try and find sponsorship. When he couldn't get in, Kurt announced a 1 year deal with FR. Harvick didn't become available until a year later in November, 2012, and he had Bud locked in with his own marketing firm.

All good business decisions by SHR, IMO. Just don't BS Newman about what really happened. Newman accepted being moved for Harvick, but he publicly stated he didn't like the whole Kurt shuffle while he was still trying to secure a 2013 ride.
 
Good thread...Very educational for NASCRAP NEWBIES to see just how these driver whores and divas really act...All SHR needs now is an arseclown like Bowyer.
 
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