Newman/Montoya

[BobbyFord]

Maybe it wasn't retaliation. We never really got a good look and the contact.




Newman called to the Hauler about Montoya wreck: #12-Ryan Newman's final night of the 2006 season lasted a little longer than he had planned when he was called to the NASCAR hauler after #30-Juan Pablo Montoya spun into the wall and his car burst into flames. "That's just one of those things," Montoya said. "He came up to me and if that's what he wanted to do, I don't care. I'm not racing for points or anything here." Newman spun into the grass with 21 laps to go and said that was his fault with no help from Montoya, who was beside him when it happened. When Newman was behind Montoya when his car went into a tailspin, NASCAR officials wanted to talk to Newman to find out if it was a payback move. "We were basically going for the same piece of real estate," Newman said when he came out of the hauler. "His bumper went across my nose and it spun him out. This was nobody but racing's fault, in my opinion. I felt bad for the situation because obviously it looked like I was retaliating and that wasn't the case, and that's what we talked about in there."(Richmond Times Dispatch)(11-20-2006)

 

[dragonlady424]

Got this from NASCAR.com
Montoya and Newman are NOT in a knot over that incident. LOL Montoya is too much of a man's racer to allow temper to affect his judgement; others could take a lesson here.

Montoya calm in midst of wild Nextel Cup debut
Contact with Elliott in pits, Newman on track doesn't ruffle veteran
By David Newton, NASCAR.COM
November 20, 2006
12:53 PM EST (17:53 GMT)




HOMESTEAD, Fla. -- Juan Montoya may have found his first rival in the Nextel Cup Series.

Battling for 21st with 15 laps remaining in his Cup debut Sunday at Homestead-Miami Speedway, the former Formula One driver got a nudge from Ryan Newman that resulted in a fiery crash for Montoya and trip to the NASCAR hauler for Newman.


While crew chief Steve Boyer lost his cool, saying Newman is the "worst hacker and chopper there is,'' the first Colombian-born driver in NASCAR's premier series remained calm after his 34th-place finish.

"He'll learn one day,'' Montoya said.

Montoya has learned more than his share since driving his first stock car in an ARCA race at Talladega last month. He was 13th after starting 29th, ahead of the driver [Casey Mears] he will replace in the No. 42 Chip Ganassi Racing Dodge next season, with 49 laps remaining.

Most of his problems came in the pits, where he once accidentally bumped former Cup champion Bill Elliott after coming in for repairs after a slight brush with the wall.

The only time communication became a problem was when several crewmembers got on the radio at the same time to tell him their plan for repairs.

"One person at a time,'' Montoya said calmly.

After Boyer issued instructions, Montoya politely replied, "OK, there you go.''

The conflict with Newman began on lap 248, when Newman spun out while racing for position with Montoya.

"He never touched me other than when we were both going for the same real estate,'' Newman said.

Newman took full blame for Montoya's crash, which NASCAR officials accepted as a racing incident and not retaliation.

"I felt bad for the situation because, obviously, it looked like I was retaliating, but that's not the case,'' Newman said. "I felt for Juan. I felt bad for the situation and him catching on fire and everything. I did not crash him on purpose and we'll go on.''

Montoya was upset about the incident, but not the way he raced with a part-time crew.

"Everybody at Chip Ganassi with Felix Sabates did an awesome job for me,'' he said. "It's going to be hard. I knew when I signed with Chip that it wasn't going to be easy.

"I'm racing against great drivers, and it was awesome racing against them. I think it's been getting better and better race by race."

Boyer said Montoya ran an "awesome'' race once he got the car dialed in. He was proud of the way the 2000 Indianapolis 500 champion fought back onto the lead lap and passed many of NASCAR's top stars.

"He learned how a car needs to feel,'' Boyer said. "He learned about different lines, who he can race around and who he can't. Once he steps into that No. 42 next year, he'll be fine.

"Inside of six weeks, he's pretty much showed that he'll be good.''

As for a potential rivalry with Newman, Boyer said the two-month break before the Daytona 500 came at a good time.

"We'll let that stay between the drivers,'' he said. "Once we get to Daytona Beach, everything will be fine.''

 

[buckaroo]

Well, it seems that the former F1 driver is more of a realist than so many of our family here on the R/F board. I've always said that racing is the most emotional sport in town, but it isn't just that the entrants get emotional, but the fans as well. I can see it now come Daytona, there will be those closed minded people who will boo Ryan as he's introduced and cheer their heads off for a rookie. Cool, that's what it's all about. BTW, I'll take that boo boy Newman over the rookie any time.

 

[dragonlady424]

Buck, I feel they both behaved very well! So why should it create such a fuss in Feburary?????

 

[Clutch]

I never saw the contact .......but it has payback written all over it

Gotta say that until I see otherwise Newman has dropped to a new low

 

[beracing]

i dunno, since neither of them said it happened... and i have repeatedly seen the replays from hundreds of different angles on espn,youtube, etc i never saw the contact... so im gonna have to say that neither of them should be criticized

 

[Clutch]

i dunno, since neither of them said it happened... and i have repeatedly seen the replays from hundreds of different angles on espn,youtube, etc i never saw the contact... so im gonna have to say that neither of them should be criticized

Really.....well this is from Yahoo sports Nascar......


That is why Montoya was puzzled that Newman's payback was so harsh.

"He came up to me and if that's what he wanted to do, I don't care," Montoya said. "I'm not racing for points or anything here."


Obviously Montoya thinks it was payback

 

[beracing]

well maybe i'm wrong then.. but i vauguely remember after the race montoya started something along the lines of

we were going for the same turf at the same time and he beat me there. I tried to give way and the air was gone...

something like that. I'm not tryin to object with you or get in a lil brawl here lol i'm just stating what i heard

 

[Bucky Badger]

Really.....well this is from Yahoo sports Nascar......


That is why Montoya was puzzled that Newman's payback was so harsh.

"He came up to me and if that's what he wanted to do, I don't care," Montoya said. "I'm not racing for points or anything here."


Obviously Montoya thinks it was payback

That doesn't prove anything....He said.....she said bla bla bla
If the replay does not fit....you must acquit.

 

[Clutch]

That doesn't prove anything....He said.....she said bla bla bla
If the replay does not fit....you must acquit.

you are of course quite right Bucky. The point of my quote however was to show that Montoya thinks he did it intentionally whether Newman did or not

 

[Bucky Badger]

you are of course quite right Bucky. The point of my quote however was to show that Montoya thinks he did it intentionally whether Newman did or not

Ryan Of course "loosened" him up intentionally, too bad so sad if you can't hang on to the car.... It has been done thousands of times, and will be done a thousand more times. Ryan would have been delt with by now if it was more than that.

 

[Clutch]

Ryan Of course "loosened" him up intentionally, too bad so sad if you can't hang on to the car.... It has been done thousands of times, and will be done a thousand more times. Ryan would have been delt with by now if it was more than that.

Fair enough, Bucky, I mean Earnhardt Snr would have had all his points taken away every race if they didnt allow some push and shove.

Newman was just lucky that Montoya did get out

 

[dragonlady424]

Apparently, you guys don't believe what J P and Newman said in the NASCAR.com article. What part of 'it was a racin deal' is so hard to understand???? Both of the boys said it was NOT deliberate. I give them both a high 5 and I don't particularly like Newman. LOL

 

[buckaroo]

Me dragon lady, I think that the problem lies with the high esteem of one Juan Pablo Montoya. I can garantee you that if the driver of that #30 car had been, say David Ragen, the topic would have been something like, "Ragen, get out of the way". You have to remember that most of us here react with out heart, not our logic, and that's what makes this sport exciting.

 

[kat2220]

Me dragon lady, I think that the problem lies with the high esteem of one Juan Pablo Montoya. I can garantee you that if the driver of that #30 car had been, say David Ragen, the topic would have been something like, "Ragen, get out of the way". You have to remember that most of us here react with out heart, not our logic, and that's what makes this sport exciting.

Buckster, Juan RACED his way into the race and declind to start in the car that was already in the top 35. That spot was EARNED!
Yeh, having thought about it, and doing a lot of reading has just confirmed my opinion that Newman had an extremely frustrating season.
All is forgiven and ON TO RACE WEEK 2007!

 

[dragonlady424]

Yaaaaaa, Kat Lady!!!!! Ya got me vote. LOL

 

[buckaroo]

Kat, Juan having raced his way into the race has nothing to do with how he is being hyped by NASCAR. Now that you like the lad, and from before his entrance into NASCAR is not in question here. But you have to agree with me that if this had been a rookie from North Carolina, or Virginia, trying to win a ride in the top series in NASCAR, all of this would be from a different angle. Whether or not you like Ryan, again you have to agree that he is not a raw rookie, trying to learn the ropes in this sport. He's been there, done that. Juan has never driven with these guys before in these cars and as such, the guys don't know each other's racing tactics. They will learn and if Juan is to succeed in the sport, he too will learn what to do, what to expect, and how to react.

 

[kat2220]

Kat, Juan having raced his way into the race has nothing to do with how he is being hyped by NASCAR. Now that you like the lad, and from before his entrance into NASCAR is not in question here. But you have to agree with me that if this had been a rookie from North Carolina, or Virginia, trying to win a ride in the top series in NASCAR, all of this would be from a different angle. Whether or not you like Ryan, again you have to agree that he is not a raw rookie, trying to learn the ropes in this sport. He's been there, done that. Juan has never driven with these guys before in these cars and as such, the guys don't know each other's racing tactics. They will learn and if Juan is to succeed in the sport, he too will learn what to do, what to expect, and how to react.

Buckster, I have to agree to a point......
HOWEVER, Juan has demonstrated to many that he has a clear headed view of what he wants and where he is going in racing. HE WANTS IN, and has demonstrated that he has RESPECT for other drivers as well as knowing he is new to this facet of racing. In many ways, he has at least deserved the right to compete on a level playing field. He may not make it in NASCAR, but he has earned the right to try his best.
I still think that Ryan was acting like a spoiled brat for a good part of the season just out of frustration.

ON TO 2007..........