Nfl Lawsuit On It's Way

I really can't understand why you all are mad about this? The owners themselves agree to this rule in December. Then they can't even follow it 6 weeks later?

The rule is kinda dumb, but does anyone else have a better idea for hiring minorities? 3 minority coaches out of 32 that a disgrace.

Why does a coach like Erickson get another chance with an alltime record of 31-33? Add to it, that he has multiple dui's, covered up drugs while at Miami, has been kicked off the miami campus, and lead Miami into probation. And he gets a job over Denny Green, who's all time record is 35 games over .500? Or how about Art Shell? No one even mentions him anymore, and he had the same record with the Raiders that Gruden had. And he didn't have Jerry Rice or Rich Gannon on those teams!
 
Well, here's an idea. Why not hire the best person for the job and be colorblind like everyone says we're supposed to be?

Or is there a color we are supposed to see, and ignore others?

Or maybe a color we're NOT supposed to see...

Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in all this? If it's wrong to be race based, then it's wrong to be race based...BOTH WAYS. Talk about having cake and eating it too.
 
Let me get me surprised look on.... :eek: There, that's better.


If I remember correctly, Dennis Green was contacted about the job at Detroit. He didn't want to interview because he felt that Mariucci had the job wrapped up. Who's fault is that? The Lion's? Mariucci's? Green's? I'm leaning toward the media somewhat. They are the ones who had Mariucci hired before he signed the contract.

When I see a push for more white wide receivers and Chinese running backs, I'll back the B.S. that the NFL is trying to pull now.
 
Originally posted by fergy1370@Feb 15 2003, 04:25 PM
Let me get me surprised look on.... :eek: There, that's better.


If I remember correctly, Dennis Green was contacted about the job at Detroit. He didn't want to interview because he felt that Mariucci had the job wrapped up. Who's fault is that? The Lion's? Mariucci's? Green's? I'm leaning toward the media somewhat. They are the ones who had Mariucci hired before he signed the contract.

When I see a push for more white wide receivers and Chinese running backs, I'll back the B.S. that the NFL is trying to pull now.
Click to expand...
Its not bs its called being equal. The NFL owners agreed to this, and then can't follow it? That's the bs! Who is to blame for Green not taking the Lions interview? How about Matt Millen pleading for Mariucci on TV? Talk about having no brains. Not even 6 weeks after the NFL signs this agreement. And as far as white wide receivers ect, if they were talented enough, they would be playing. The difference is minority coaches who have the same or better resume's. 3 minority coaches out of 32 is fine for you? The NFL has proven over time that the owners have the good ole boy rasist mentality. Its a disgrace to sports, atleast the NBA and MLB have figured these problems out.

Even if you want to complain about race, it still makes no sense, Millen was the moron who broke a rule only 6 weeks old!!!
 
Racism is racism, and equal is equal. If concessions are made to hire "minority" coaches (read black, we all know it why not say it), that's racism. It discriminates against all races except one.

Which way is it supposed to be, equal shot for all or favortism toward one race?
 
Originally posted by TN-Ward-Fan@Feb 16 2003, 11:59 PM
Racism is racism, and equal is equal. If concessions are made to hire "minority" coaches (read black, we all know it why not say it), that's racism. It discriminates against all races except one.

Which way is it supposed to be, equal shot for all or favortism toward one race?
Click to expand...
I'm with you on this one
 
Originally posted by fergy1370@Feb 16 2003, 07:28 PM
Be glad that TWF answered before I did. I'm sick of this "affirmitive action" B.S.
Click to expand...
Me too. I've seen the consequences of quota hiring in a former job. Sadly. the job was in mental health. You know, nothing important, just responsibility for the quality of another human being's life and all, no big deal. I can candidly say with 100% honesty that the new hiring quota that was imposed knocked many good caring people out of a shot at a job because they weren't black.

We had a lot of black employees, many of them among the very best on the staff. Not all the white folk on the staff were top notch either. But the overall quality of the staff declined sharply in the 12 months following the change in hiring policy. I hope it was coincidence, but I don't think it was.

When you know you don't have to perform to keep your job, many people quit trying as hard as they would have. Take that from this civil service protected State government employee. We all need a reason to do our best on our jobs. Knowing that you have protection because of a racial quota percentage number gives you a false umbrella of safety, and means that you don't have to be as good or work as hard as the person beside you does. That sounds fair and equal to me. :rolleyes:
 
Totally disagree. The old standard just leave it be. I really would be very curious what would be said on this board if 29 of the 32 coaches were black! Or what would come about if another black man were to drive in NASCAR.

It is not affirmative action, its called given a race of men a shot who have better resumes then white men. Dennis Erickson doesn't have half the resume these other men have, its a joke.
 
Gopherguy...How is it Detroits fault if those guys refused to interview? And are you saying they are better qualified than Mariucci? I hope you aren't trying to say that.
 
Originally posted by mngopherguy@Feb 16 2003, 08:36 PM
Totally disagree.  The old standard just leave it be.  I really would be very curious what would be said on this board if 29 of the 32 coaches were black!  Or what would come about if another black man were to drive in NASCAR. 

Click to expand...
Who cares if a black man drove in NASCAR? You're reaching here....

And I do agree with you about Erickson...but that's San Fran, not Detroit. Why aren't they getting investigated?

Another question.......Would you really want to come into a job where you were picked just because you are a minority?

If it was me, I would consider it a slap in the face.
 
How bout this idea. Lets make each NBA team required to have 1 white player, let's make the NHL teams have 1 black guy, lets have Womens Tennis be required to have 1 male person in the top 10, how bout at least 1 chinese person on the offensive line, how bout we put a monkey as the starting quarterback? Sound absurd? You're absolutely right. Hire someone on talent, not color, race, ethnicity, religion, or JUST BECAUSE. Dear Lord. I wonder when the day when the "white" person becomes the "minority" if these rules that are put in place now will apply. Some reason I dont think they will.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom