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Jr is in a backup car but locked into the 500. He'll start his duel race and the 500 from the last row.

Winner of the first duel starts the 500 inside or outside second row, Jr wins his duel race. Now what?

I know it's unlikely but it could happen. WWBD [what would brain do]
 
I'm not sure but I thnk he goes to the back for the 500 regardless.
 
Yeah, he may as well hang out on the beach until Sunday. No matter what he wins, or does, he's starting 40ish on Sunday.
 
"...Per NASCAR's rules, Earnhardt will retain credit for his pole position and will line up there for the first Duel on Thursday and again, for Sunday's Daytona 500, before dropping to the rear of each race's field on the pace laps."
 
BobbyFord said:
"...Per NASCAR's rules, Earnhardt will retain credit for his pole position and will line up there for the first Duel on Thursday and again, for Sunday's Daytona 500, before dropping to the rear of each race's field on the pace laps."
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That, and $1.50 will get him a cup of coffee tomorrow morning.
 
BobbyFord said:
"...Per NASCAR's rules, Earnhardt will retain credit for his pole position and will line up there for the first Duel on Thursday and again, for Sunday's Daytona 500, before dropping to the rear of each race's field on the pace laps."
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So what, he starts up front and then drops to the back after the first caution lap?
 
No sense in running the 150.

I just can't fathom how going to a backup car means you start in the back for the Twin and the big dance. :confused:
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
No sense in running the 150.

I just can't fathom how going to a backup car means you start in the back for the Twin and the big dance. :confused:
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If you crash your car in practice after qualifying and are forced to go to a backup car then you must start the race at the rear of the field.
 
I think they said that if he had qualified anywhere but the first row he would only have to start in the back of the 150 but since his position was locked for sunday he has to go to the back for both. I agree with andy either leave the car cover on it on thursday, or turn a lap and pull it in.







Suddenly all the black helicopters disappeared lol
 
Can you practice in you back up car? If I was on the pole I wouldn't practice. If you win the pole you should be allowed to use a backup car in practice in this case. But at Daytona it really doesn't matter where you start its IF you finish.
 
BobbyFord said:
If you crash your car in practice after qualifying and are forced to go to a backup car then you must start the race at the rear of the field.
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Why is that rule in place anyways? What is NASCAR thinking behind it?
 
mike honcho said:
Ask Brian.That's not a new rule.They have had it around for a while.I'm really surprised that it seems you haven't heard of it before.
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I have, I know it's not a new rule, I'm just not understanding why the pole sitter should be penalize for a wreck that happens during practice between qualifying and the race.
 
SpeedPagan said:
I have, I know it's not a new rule, I'm just not understanding why the pole sitter should be penalize for a wreck that happens during practice between qualifying and the race.
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Well if you asked Brian,what did he say?
 
SST55 said:
Jr is in a backup car but locked into the 500. He'll start his duel race and the 500 from the last row.

Winner of the first duel starts the 500 inside or outside second row, Jr wins his duel race. Now what?

I know it's unlikely but it could happen. WWBD [what would brain do]
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He still starts in the rear because it is a back up car.
 
Jr. has to drop to the back because his car has already been locked into P1 through qualifying while Martin Truex will get to start in the position that he earns through the Dual today. So both guys go to a backup car because of the same wreck but Jr has no ability to improve his position while Truex does? I know that's the rule but that does seem a little strange.

Oh..... and don't forget that under those warm-up laps, when Jr drops to the back, all of those cars on the inside lap will move up a row and improve by two positions for the start of the race.
 
I know that's been a rule but I mean really for the 500 I don't think it really should I mean come on as said above Truex will get to start from what ever spot he earns in the 150 but Jr won't just because his spot is locked in? All I know is I don't wanna hear any Nascar favors Jr talk on here or well anywhere else as I don't see it on here much haha. Oh well its Daytona I mean come on you can be from the back to the front in no time maybe Jr can still win this. :rolleyes:
 
The only silver lining in this whole debacle, is the 88 team still gets to maintain their pit selection. I assume it's P1.
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It's the same rule as when you replace an engine after qualifying, you start at the rear. This is not a new rule, I don't understand all of the concern :confused:
Is it because it's Jr. or because it's the Daytona 500? Why should the rule be different for Daytona?
 
BobbyFord said:
It's the same rule as when you replace an engine after qualifying, you start at the rear. This is not a new rule, I don't understand all of the concern :confused:
Is it because it's Jr. or because it's the Daytona 500? Why should the rule be different for Daytona?
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Qualifying races... Has nothing to do with Junyer.
 
BobbyFord said:
It's the same rule as when you replace an engine after qualifying, you start at the rear. This is not a new rule, I don't understand all of the concern :confused:
Is it because it's Jr. or because it's the Daytona 500? Why should the rule be different for Daytona?
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I don't know that there's all kinds of concern about it. Someone started off by asking what happens. As far as it being different..... The rules are different at Daytona for the 500. This is the only place that they use this qualifying method. Anywhere else Truex would have been starting on that back row too. Instead, he benefits from this qualifying procedure. That is, unless he wrecks again.
 
basscatcher89 said:
I think they said that if he had qualified anywhere but the first row he would only have to start in the back of the 150 but since his position was locked for sunday he has to go to the back for both. I agree with andy either leave the car cover on it on thursday, or turn a lap and pull it i





Suddenly all the black helicopters disappeared lol
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They didn't, this makes for even a better story, coming from dead last to win!;)
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I don't know that there's all kinds of concern about it. Someone started off by asking what happens. As far as it being different..... The rules are different at Daytona for the 500. This is the only place that they use this qualifying method. Anywhere else Truex would have been starting on that back row too. Instead, he benefits from this qualifying procedure. That is, unless he wrecks again.
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I understand the qualifying procedure. I wasn't talking about Truex.
 
Mopardh9 said:
They didn't, this makes for even a better story, coming from dead last to win!;)
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Right, and if he does win he still starts last. The duel will be a shake down run for the car, call it a test session if you will.

Johnson will be starting in the back with Jr due to a engine change. Once they get hooked up I wouldn't expect them to stay there very long.
 
SST55 said:
Right, and if he does win he still starts last. The duel will be a shake down run for the car, call it a test session if you will.

Johnson will be starting in the back with Jr due to a engine change. Once they get hooked up I wouldn't expect them to stay there very long.
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yep me either
 
SST55 said:
....Johnson will be starting in the back with Jr due to a engine change. Once they get hooked up I wouldn't expect them to stay there very long.
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I was just watching a few minutes of Speedtv at lunch time...1st practice had just ended. Dilner was in the garage area and explaining why so few practiced the first session and the different strategies the teams are using. I was sorta paying attention and then he said (to paraphrase) "some teams are using this time to change engines as they are allowed one engine change during speed weeks"...and they showed an engine being hoisted into one of the cars (?) I was like...what :confused:

Like you state above SST, I thought changing an engine meant starting in the back. Now I'm all mixed up.
 
Not @ Daytona for the 500 because of the qualifying races. The rules are different this first week. Teams are allowed to change engines after the Gatorade Duel, but before Happy Hour practice on Saturday and not have to lose their starting position. This is nothing new.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Not @ Daytona for the 500 because of the qualifying races. The rules are different this first week. Teams are allowed to change engines after the Gatorade Duel, but before Happy Hour practice on Saturday and not have to lose their starting position. This is nothing new.
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Thanks!
 
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