OUCH ! Tony Stewart.

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See Tony walkin'and a talkin' after the race. He was a tad upset, with the Good Year Tire and Rubber Company, sole supplier of tires for the series.

HOORAY !!!!!! This is only the second time I can recall a driver criticising Good Year for inconsistency in tires.Well, there goes the bonus money GY pays to JGR for saying nothing but nice things about thier product.

Good Year has a lot to answer for over the years and this is good for them. It will keep them on thier toes. Or they might yank JGR sponsorship monies.
 
Tony was hotter than a $2 pistol yesterday.

It seemed to me that a number of teams were having inconsistent sets of tires, too. Hope they speak up. Supposedly Goodyear is going to be talking to teams this week. Hope they get the truth.
 
It is not often that you hear sharp criticism of Goodyear, mostly because as a rule the tires are very consistent. Considering the abuse and variances the teams subject the tires to, they (Goodyear) does a very good job.

Many times it will happen that a team will have a serious handling drop off and blame a "bad" set of tires for it. Sometimes this is true, sometimes it is not. It is not within any driver or crew chiefs ability to know with certainty that everything else which is a factor has stayed consistent. Quite often it will turn out that a shock, spring, wheel, brake rotor, gear or some such has failed. But tires are easily blamed.

And sometimes the tire is to blame, just like a manufacturer may produce a bad spring, bad shock, bad rocker arm, bad valve spring, bad crankshaft, bad rod, bad piston, well ya get the idea.

Seems Goodyear is very good at addressing these issues when they can. Someone from the company will no doubt examine the tires off the #20 car, look for any reason they can come up with to explain or understand what, if anything, was wrong.

But if it was some failure of another part, wonder if we will hear of that?

Betcha not.
 
This isn't the first time Tony has complained about the tires being inconsistant. If I remember right didn't Tony get his butt chewed the last time he made a negative comment about Goodyear after a race?
 
Hardscrabble, the comment made by Zipadelli was they had no changes in the car between the next tot last and last tire change, and in the event he is being up front, it would appear there was a problem with the tires being inconsistent.

As you say, teams do find it easy to make a goat of Good Year or anyone else there is to blame in an effort to cover thier own shortcomings. This time it sounds like the situation was a tire problem. However, taking into consideration this same claim has been made by the same team on more than one occasion, there is always reason to be suspect, the difference this time being the cover comment by Zippadelli.
 
I respect Tony for telling it Like He see's it and not caving in to being "Politically Correct"! Heck, even Jeff Gordon wasn't being politically correct in his interview after the race. Whats up with that? Thats not the normal Jeffy Boy! Guess these guys are tired of Newman and Busch winning all the races!
 
The tire inconsistencies were pretty obvious during the race, I would even go so far to say that Jr.s wreck could have been caused by the lack of consistency between the sets of tires. I'm glad Tony has the guts to tell it like it is.

I thought it was funny when Mayfield said the S word on T.V. seems none of the drivers were to happy after this race.
 
The tires were the reason Matt struggled all day too. He was way loose to start the race. Took out a spring rubber & made air pressure adjustments and was way too tight after making those changes.
 
I heard/read that half the tires Goodyear brought were new tires and half of them were old. BP made comments that he noticed a lot of teams during Happy Hour scuffing in more than their normal amount of tires to try to find the consistent sets.
 
my only ?? I think Tony started 12th or 13th after the last caution. If the tires were that bad how the hell did he finish 3rd ??, Then again jr ran great all day took 2 at the end and we all know what happened there.
 
Originally posted by de7xwcc@Sep 22 2003, 03:28 PM
my only ?? I think Tony started 12th or 13th after the last caution. If the tires were that bad how the hell did he finish 3rd ??, Then again jr ran great all day took 2 at the end and we all know what happened there.
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It was the set before the last pit stop that was bad and that is why he had to go in and get 4 new tires.
 
Originally posted by DeeDee+Sep 22 2003, 07:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeeDee @ Sep 22 2003, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--de7xwcc@Sep 22 2003, 03:28 PM
my only ??&nbsp; I think Tony started 12th or 13th after the last caution. If the tires were that bad how the hell did he finish 3rd ??, Then again jr ran great all day took 2 at the end and we all know what happened there.
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It was the set before the last pit stop that was bad and that is why he had to go in and get 4 new tires. [/b][/quote]
seemed to me he was complainin about tires all day, said there was no constancy from one set to another.
 
Originally posted by de7xwcc@Sep 22 2003, 03:50 PM

seemed to me he was complainin about tires all day, said there was no constancy from one set to another.
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You are exactly right. He was complaining of inconsistancy all day, I was just pointing out he had put that set on the 2nd to last pit stop and had problems with them, than the last pits stop (no adjustments from what I understand) those were fine.
 
Everybody was complaining about the Goodyear tires all day. Even the announcers verified that as fact. Only difference is Tony had the b@lls to speak up about it.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Sep 22 2003, 04:44 PM
Everybody was complaining about the Goodyear tires all day. Even the announcers verified that as fact. Only difference is Tony had the b@lls to speak up about it.
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Exactly!
 
haha..I just heared him on speed.

reporter:"What was wrong with the tires"

Tony S."I dont know, ask goodyear, they built the pieces of sh!t"

Someone sure was fired. How did he finish anyways?
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Sep 22 2003, 04:44 PM
Everybody was complaining about the Goodyear tires all day.&nbsp; Even the announcers verified that as fact.&nbsp; Only difference is Tony had the b@lls to speak up about it.
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That's why I like Tony! :cheers: Never one to kiss coporate butt.



"You can't adjust on a car because it won't do the same thing from one set of tires to another set of tires. They sponsor all these teams and basically what it is, is 'hush money' to keep us from talking about it and I'm tired of covering their ass," Stewart said after the race.

"It's pretty bad when the sets of tires are so bad that you can't make an adjustment on the car and go out and win the race when you have the fastest car on the track."

Goodyear's NASCAR team leader, Rick Campbell, said the issue was not as "clear-cut" as Stewart made it seem.

"We're going to talk to him this week and get into the actual data and see what it shows us, see what actually happened - did Tony get worse or did simply the other cars get better? It's an open book right now," Campbell said.

"If something happened tire-wise - I would be surprised if it did, but if it did - then we'll take our lumps and try to fix it and make it better."
 
Originally posted by Luv4Dale8@Sep 22 2003, 09:55 PM
haha..I just heared him on speed.

reporter:"What was wrong with the tires"

Tony S."I dont know, ask goodyear, they built the pieces of sh!t"

Someone sure was fired. How did he finish anyways?
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That does a heart good to hear words like that :)
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin+Sep 22 2003, 07:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4xchampncountin @ Sep 22 2003, 07:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Luv4Dale8@Sep 22 2003, 09:55 PM
haha..I just heared him on speed.

reporter:"What was wrong with the tires"

Tony S."I dont know, ask goodyear, they built the pieces of sh!t"

Someone sure was fired. How did he finish anyways?
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That does a heart good to hear words like that :) [/b][/quote]
:lol: Shh, just what we needed after a race like that..a little laughter. You so cool Tony, serioulsy B)
 
Originally posted by Highboy90+Sep 22 2003, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Highboy90 @ Sep 22 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--RobbyG Fan@Sep 22 2003, 04:44 PM
Everybody was complaining about the Goodyear tires all day.  Even the announcers verified that as fact.  Only difference is Tony had the b@lls to speak up about it.
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That's why I like Tony! :cheers: Never one to kiss coporate butt.

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Thats one of the reasons I like Robby Gordon as well. Both Robby and Tony come from the same breed, pure bred racers who arent afraid to speak their mind.

:cheers:
 
You can always count on Tony to speak his mind. Even Jeff Gordon did on Sunday. It's too bad that the majority of the drivers are afraid to speak the truth. That's one of the reason why I like Tony. :cheers:
 
Gotta still wonder about the tires at Dover.

Somewhere I read that there was concern with age of the tires, but how old could they be? If memory serves this race last year debuted a new tire.

Tony has a history of struggling here, he and Zippy seem to move on and off the mark here consistently. First loose, then tight and back again. Their finishes are pretty good, as was this one, but not quite enough to satisfy.

Dover has long been a track which seems to support a vey narrow sweet spot, and teams that have it nailed do well. Those that get just a smidge off it, struggle.

There was another instance, back in 2001 I think, where Tony ripped Goodyear for having bad tires here. Not the same tires they run now. Same symptoms. Fast, not fast, fast again. In short struggling to find the handle.

Just makes ya go hmmmmmmm.
 
Isn't Dover one of the tracks where inconsistent tires show up more than at other tracks? Is it because of the banking, concrete and depth of the turns?
 
Just had a chance to watch the replay of the race.

Paid particular attention to Tony and his"bad" set of tires. After the next to last stop Tony started 2nd behind Ryan. Ran not too bad, not as good as Ryan, but who does run as good as Ryan when Ryan is out front?? Only lost one spot...fell to third when Jeremy, who was dem fast all day passed him after quite a few laps. Not just a few. Tony's times remained very close to Ryans throughout the run until just at the end.

When the caution flew for Jr's crash Tony was running third but jumped into the pits. The report at that time was that the rear was loose and "jumping all over the place" so they had to pit replace all four tires and evne a more interesting quote.

The air adjustment they made on the prior stop had to be undone!! The air pressure in the right rear was put back to where it was earlier in the race.

Sorry Tony..ain't buying yer tale at all.
 
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