Ouch...

Lazyking said:
Unfortunate. I don't know what else I'm supposed to say..
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The "ouch" was just for the writer's point of view. Yes, very unfortunate. It is a nice example of corporate greed. It's cheaper to pay the people and the families of those affected than it is to have a recall. It's sad. Corporations pull this crap all of the time.
 
BobbyFord said:
I just thought he was a little over the top.
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I honestly did not follow that article at all. He started talking about sponsorship, then went on to talk about Jimmie Johnson, and then about the former racist owner of the Clippers and ended the whole thing with death by GM.

Writers...if you're going to write something for public consumption, it really helps if you try to stick to one topic and not have your writing read like it was written by a child with ADD that high on crack.
 
SpeedPagan said:
I honestly did not follow that article at all. He started talking about sponsorship, then went on to talk about Jimmie Johnson, and then about the former racist owner of the Clippers and ended the whole thing with death by GM.

Writers...if you're going to write something for public consumption, it really helps if you try to stick to one topic and not have your writing read like it was written by a child with ADD that high on crack.
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If an ADD kid took crack, it would actually settle him/her down. Carry on......
 
All I got from this is that GM is akin to Donald Sterling, but actually much worse because some of their cars malfunctioned and killed some people. Unfortunately for NASCAR fans, GM can not be voted out of the series due to bad behavior.
 
SBN's motorsports coverage is a pile of crap. The last writer they had that was worth a damn, they let go and is now under our banner.
 
The fact that this is a 2014 article and they decided to use a headline photo that is 2 years old bugs me.

For the record, this article is horseschit.

"Owners and sponsors in any context are at best the sausage makers of sports. You don't want to see them, much less know how they got into a position to buy a team, put astonishing athletes on it and make the tasty meat you, the sports consumer, devour happily."

God forbid an individual follow the American dream and make an easy living off of capitalism.

I had little respect for SBNation to begin with, now Spencer Hall, has destroyed what was left.
 
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I remember once Ford put 26 psi in tires for new Ford Explorers when Firestone recommended 35 psi.

It didn't turn out so well.

I also remember Toyota accelerator pedals had a bad habit of getting stuck on the floor mats.

People died there as well.

Glass houses.
 
BobbyFord said:
The "ouch" was just for the writer's point of view. Yes, very unfortunate. It is a nice example of corporate greed. It's cheaper to pay the people and the families of those affected than it is to have a recall. It's sad. Corporations pull this crap all of the time.
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Just remember, corporations are people too!
 
Whizzer said:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/01/autos/toyota_gas_pedal_fix/
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....or

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/08/autos/nhtsa_nasa_toyota_final_report/

Never want to see anyone die over any flaw of any sort---so, floor mat or whatever, those folks who were hurt or died should not be minimized. However, this was the NHTSA in all of its overpaid governmental glory. For the record, I bought a Toyota right in the middle of this mess. No regrets. No issues. BS and everybody knows it. Toyota, however, continues to pay up in good faith. Flame on. Have not read the particulars on the GM issue because I will never buy one, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the same crap. NHTSA must be bored.
 
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KevinWI said:
I also remember Toyota accelerator pedals had a bad habit of getting stuck on the floor mats.
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The car i drive now is the year model for the floormat/stuck accelerator problem. When i read about it i went out to my car and moved my feet around and tried to get the floormat to hold the pedal down. Its pretty much impossible. Havent had a problem with it at all knock on wood
 
What is really stupid, is back in the 50's GM cars could be started with a key or without one. Now it is grounds to sue? They were made that way back in the day. Some people are too stupid to be behind the wheel IMO. You would put the key in, turn it to off and you could remove the key and still be able to start the vehicle. In that position you didn't need to even carry a key. Put the key back in and turn it to the lock position and you needed a key to start it.



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In the 70s the Ford Pintos gas tanks exploded very easily.

But the Supreme Court justly and wisely ruled that "Whereas anybody that is stupid enough to drive a Ford, deserves to be burnt alive", and they threw the cases out.

The wisest SCOTUS ruling ever imo. I was proud to be an American when they made the ruling.
 
Greg said:
In the 70s the Ford Pintos gas tanks exploded very easily.

But the Supreme Court justly and wisely ruled that "Whereas anybody that is stupid enough to drive a Ford, deserves to be burnt alive", and they threw the cases out.

The wisest SCOTUS ruling ever imo. I was proud to be an American when they made the ruling.
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Jeez Greg
 
ToyYoda said:
Funny how once a couple of the unintended acceleration cases were determined to be fraudulent, you didn't hear about it happening to anyone anymore. I always wondered why every Toyota built since 2003 all of a sudden decided to malfunction between September and December 2009.
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Its 2014 & mine is still strong...

Knockin on wood.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
The car i drive now is the year model for the floormat/stuck accelerator problem. When i read about it i went out to my car and moved my feet around and tried to get the floormat to hold the pedal down. Its pretty much impossible. Havent had a problem with it at all knock on wood
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That's because there never was a problem.
 
ToyYoda said:
Funny how once a couple of the unintended acceleration cases were determined to be fraudulent, you didn't hear about it happening to anyone anymore. I always wondered why every Toyota built since 2003 all of a sudden decided to malfunction between September and December 2009.
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There ya go.
 
StandOnIt said:
What is really stupid, is back in the 50's GM cars could be started with a key or without one. Now it is grounds to sue? They were made that way back in the day. Some people are too stupid to be behind the wheel IMO. You would put the key in, turn it to off and you could remove the key and still be able to start the vehicle. In that position you didn't need to even carry a key. Put the key back in and turn it to the lock position and you needed a key to start it.



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That's a bit different than your car ignition turning itself to the lock position while you're trying to drive, thus preventing you from steering and turning the airbags off when you need them most. I'm sick of these corporations lining their pockets with customers blood. Fine the executives into bankruptcy and then put them in jail.
 
Win on Sunday, Sell on monday. Seems Like GM really holds this to be true.
 
I've never been a fan of ETC. Our fleet trucks at work have ETC and there is zero throttle response. I also keep the traction control turned off.
 
Greg said:
In the 70s the Ford Pintos gas tanks exploded very easily.

But the Supreme Court justly and wisely ruled that "Whereas anybody that is stupid enough to drive a Ford, deserves to be burnt alive", and they threw the cases out.

The wisest SCOTUS ruling ever imo. I was proud to be an American when they made the ruling.
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Greg said:
In the 70s the Ford Pintos gas tanks exploded very easily.

But the Supreme Court justly and wisely ruled that "Whereas anybody that is stupid enough to drive a Ford, deserves to be burnt alive", and they threw the cases out.

The wisest SCOTUS ruling ever imo. I was proud to be an American when they made the ruling.
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I believe that GM also had an issue back in the 70's with their pickup trucks being prone to explosion upon impact due to the gas tank being on the outside of the frame. Someone more "seasoned" around here may have more info on that :)
 
#17D500winner said:
I believe that GM also had an issue back in the 70's with their pickup trucks being prone to explosion upon impact due to the gas tank being on the outside of the frame. Someone more "seasoned" around here may have more info on that :)
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That is correct. The tanks were mounted on the outside of the frame rail, with just the outer bed skin to protect them from impact. All aux tanks now are mounted inboard of the frame rail.
 
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