Pay per view question

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This is something that just doesn't seem to go away. My opinion is that it will never come to be, but stranger things have happened. The latest is TBS and their negotiations with the cable companies. Looks like NASCAR has more or less put the kabosh on this idea, but I just think that TBS is trying to use their power to get a higher rate from the cable companies.

Having said all that, if, and it's a big IF, the races were offered on a pay per view basis with complete and no interuptions for commercials, how much would you pay for such a service if anything? Would you do it for individual races or would you make it a package deal for the entire season? Would you insist on different coverage compared to what we have now, or are you satisfied with the way things are done now? What about interactive TV? Keep in mind that the more things you would ask for, the higher the cost of the service.
 
Commercials are my bathroom brakes, and I wouldn't be able to afford to pay for them w/o, so I'd like to keep things the way they are. But Nascar wants to find ways to make more money, so I doubt things will stay this way for long.
 
Wouldn't pay a penny. I would double up on the local racing, Friday and Saturday night. On Sundays I would go to the old shade tree with my cooler and listen to NASCAR on MRN.
 
Originally posted by #84 NVRA
Wouldn't pay a penny. I would double up on the local racing, Friday and Saturday night. On Sundays I would go to the old shade tree with my cooler and listen to NASCAR on MRN.
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Think I might be right there with you NVRA.......do we need fish bait?:D
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
Think I might be right there with you NVRA.......do we need fish bait?:D
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That's the way it used to be. A six pack of beer, a fishing pole and a radio.
 
I agree with you buckaroo, Nascar will lose so much money if they do that. I think anyway
 
If they started showing the races on pay per view, then I guess its about time to look at other forms of racing and leave NASCAR in the dust.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
If they started showing the races on pay per view, then I guess its about time to look at other forms of racing and leave NASCAR in the dust.
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Only time will tell, but it's all about money and if they make more with PPV than they are now, even with fewer viewers, it will be a go. Look at NASCAR.com and their multimedia thing. Last year and years before, it was free. Now it's not and won't be unless they are losing money. If they try the PPV thing, they will probably believe that the first year or possibly 2, they will lose money and hope that it will pick up after that. Also, I believe that whoever makes that decision will not necessarily be a race fan. It will all be about the money. Period.
 
I have it BAD, I may even do PPV but I hope it NEVER happens.
I still call it NA$CA$H!
 
I listen to MRN most of the time anyway, unless it's a track I really like or the weather is not suitable to be outdoors. I wouldn't pay a dime to watch the races on PPV.

Now, if the powers that be decree that MRN's contract is not to be renewed, and PPV is then utilized, I'll rely on the internet for results as my interest in the sport fades away to the level currently enjoyed (?) by Major League Baseball...which is to say, a passing interest at best. And to think baseball used to be my number one interest...

PPV will be the death knell of the sport, and NASCAR knows it. These rumors have been around for years.
 
If NASCAR went to ppv, they would certainly keep there die hard fans, but where would the new viewers come from? I wouldn't pay seems I fall asleep in the middle of most of the races anyway.
 
This would be a gradual thing if it ever comes. The first one would undoubtedly be the Daytona 500 and possibly the Brickyard 400. They would of course hype this way in advance, so if it were going to start next year, they'd be advertising it now and it wouldn't be the Daytona race they would be hawking now. After they had a few races under their belts and saw how it was accepted, they would move on from there, quite possibly the night race at Bristol. The more successful races would be the first to go and then it would trickle down with the rest. Having been around for a while, I remember when there weren't any races televised and of course, the sport then was simply stated to be a southern thing. When ESPN began to broadcase some of the races, we all took what we could get and when they finally had every race on TV, the sport took off. Now we take it for granted that every race will be on TV and that's the way it's always been. It can always go the other direction at any time.
 
I think that a couple pay per view means that I would not see a couple races, A season of pay per view would be the end of my support for the sport.. Reasonably priced or not pay per view means they would be no longer fan friendly and they dont need me or any of us....just the money.

Kel
 
Originally posted by buckaroo
 Having been around for a while, I remember when there weren't any races televised and of course, the sport then was simply stated to be a southern thing.  When ESPN began to broadcase some of the races, we all took what we could get and when they finally had every race on TV, the sport took off.  Now we take it for granted that every race will be on TV and that's the way it's always been.  It can always go the other direction at any time.
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I too remember the days when maybe 3 races a year were on TV, and not all of them flag-to-flag. ESPN did more to build this sport than NASCAR itself has done. The sport has in fact grown DESPITE what NASCAR has done to it.

I'll say it again. If they bring PPV in, they're toast. And I think they know it. These rumors pop up, then die down again.
 
I can remember when a few of the races were on pay per-view back in the mid 80's i can remember one of the pocono races was pay per-view and there was another one i can't remember (slept since then) It was just a good excuse for a party we all went to a friend's house everybody pitched in a few bucks and whatched the ENTIRE race no comercial BS i loved it. I for one wish they would offer the option of pay per-view along with their current covarage. I would gladly pay to see the short track races with no comericals.

Hope everyone has a happy and safe New Year !!!

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Originally posted by TN-Ward-Fan
ESPN did more to build this sport than NASCAR itself has done.  The sport has in fact grown DESPITE what NASCAR has done to it.
I'll say it again.  If they bring PPV in, they're toast.  And I think they know it.  These rumors pop up, then die down again. [/b]
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Didn't NASCAR give the broadcast rights to ESPN before they began to televise the races?? And CBS ??

If you are going to give credit, NASCAR should get it for having the foresight to let television in to thier sport.
The latest contract with NBC and FOX contain clauses guaranteeing millions to NASCAR or the France Family and they are in the business of making money. They are the beneficiaries of NASCAR who make the decisions and justifiably so, they make the money.
NASCAR, by way of thier foresight, is the one who brought this sport and the other series they promote, to the attention of the international community by granting broadcast rights. ESPN was merely the vehicle of convenience. And as such they were very good at it.

As for PPV, it will definitely be experimented with in the near future and most likely at tracks such as Indianapolis and Daytona, possibly Talledega. NASCAR owns two of the three and they suffer the most if it fails. Strictly as a business decision, if it were me sitting in the cat bird seat PPV would be tried as soon as possible. As a fan, I don't like it. But then again it might be worth it to pay if they got rid of DW.
 
Originally posted by TN-Ward-Fan
Let television into the sport?  LET?  Puh-leez.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say that NASCAR let TV into the sport. ESPN, which is also a business, saw something that was new and a possible goldmine. The success of NASCAR is due mostly in part by ESPN. ABC and CBS already had been broadcasting some races, but they were a select few, and even CBS was proud to say "flag to flag" as though it was always understood that racing on TV would just be a part time thing. Whizzer does have some good points though about doing PPV right away to see what the reaction is going to be. And hey, if you don't think that NASCAR knows there will be a very big negative reaction, yer nuts. The beginning of something new always has a negative reaction. It's what comes after the initial response that's important.
 
I just can't see if becoming a huge success like Direct TV and the NFL. I personally don't mind the commercials, gives me break for bathroom and food. They might try 1 or 2 races , but i think that it will die out quickly.
 
I really don't think PPV will take off for NASCAR. The fans of this particular style of racing are just not right for such a move........call us not "sophisticated" enough or whatever.:) I can see it possibly being done as another source of revenue being offered to a few (and I mean few) who would sign up for it in order to avoid the commercials and other annoyances of a broadcasted race (you know, the mindless chit chat of the commentators). There is also that group of fans coming into the sport because "it's the latest thing to be part of"......those might go for it simply because it would "demonstrate" their enthusiasm. :) But, the bread and butter fans would balk........and NASCAR knows it. So I see possibly a few of the bigger races being PPV.........but as an alternative for the few that would buy it. It would still be broadcast on a more readily available medium.
 
I'll pay an entry fee, but wont pay to sit on the couch and watch TV.
 
Originally posted by TN-Ward-Fan
Let television into the sport?  LET?  Puh-leez.
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How did ESPN or any media broadcast NASCAR races if NASCAR did not let them have the approval to do so? Until three or four years before the signing of the contract with NBC/FOX, track promoters had the option, but still needed NASCAR approval.

NASCAR was always in the loop for letting television and radio broadcasting into the sport.
 
I'll be in the unpopular minority. I would go the PPV route if the price was something like $199/season. Just having no commercials would be a huge improvement for me. 25-30% of the race is missed due to ads.
 
ahhhhh for the good old days! I was really spoiled; in April of '90 we got a 10' sattelite dish, learned a lot of the races were uplinked on kU band and immediately upgraded to kU. So from then on watched ALL the Cup races from the origional backhaul from the track, no commercials, and ESPN crew would follow the action on the track, or the pits, or wherever the action was. Lost all that when the new deal came in in Feb. '01. All is digital now and the receiver of that particular signal is $4000. and sold to licensed broadcasters only. Nope, would not participate in pay per view....feel I am getting gouged already because of having to upgrade the DTV subscription to get all the races now, an extra $120 a year.
Between Earnhardt's death and the Fox takeover I have lost 2/3 interest in the show anyway. I too find myself falling asleep on the couch during the races.:snore:
 
I just don't see it happeing...at least anytime soon. NA$CAR has gone to great lengths to get racing on the same "stage" as the stick & ball sports. Heck, that's one of the reasons they left TNN. Yeah, money has a lot to do with it, but I would think there is more money to be made on commercials...the ones that really pay for the race to be on TV anyway. I just don't see the average American race fan shelling out more money to watch what he can get for "free". Look at it this way also.....the names on the sides of the cars, that pay them to race are nothing more than moving billboards for viewers. Less people to watch them means less money and sponsors for the sport.
 
Well, curtesy of PRN, here's the scoop as of 01/01/03:

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Speaking of fees to watch television, how in the world did an Internet-inspired rumor of NASCAR pay-per-view get started again? The only PPV option that NASCAR has or is even discussing is the in-car camera package that has two years remaining with iN DEMAND. NASCAR has four years left on the NBC/TNT contract and six years with Fox. There's no way that pay-per-view for races is even being discussed among the NASCAR big shots. Let it go.
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Aww man.........that spoils all the fun!!:( Now what are we gonna gripe about?:)
 
DEW, that wasn't me. I was just showing a clip from PRN. Hey, I don't agree with it at all. Those money hungry France's and Smitty's will try anything. So, anything from PRN or MRN are just propaganda anyway. :)
 
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