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Mopardh9

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I used to live about 10 minutes from this track, a great facility that hosted some awesome races. I was shocked to hear that ISC bought the assets and closed this venue down what looks to be for ever. I'm curious if any one on this board has any more information about PPIR's future or lack there of. I'm really sad that this happened, i attended the CTS, Busch,and IRL races quite a few times while i lived in Colorado Springs....it was a great place to watch a race. :(
 
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I used to live about 10 minutes from this track, a great facility that hosted some awesome races. I was shocked to hear that ISC bought the assets and closed this venue down what looks to be for ever. I'm curious if any one on this board has any more information about PPIR's future or lack there of. I'm really sad that this happened, i attended the CTS, Busch,and IRL races quite a few times while i lived in Colorado Springs....it was a great place to watch a race. :(
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I lived in Trinidad for 9 years, and went to every race PPIR held until July "99" when I moved to WA state. I know what you mean, I loved the track and thought it should have a Cup date.

Sorry I'm a bit lazy this morning, (haven't even finished my 1st coffee yet) so I'm going to quote a post I made about this on another board.

According to this article of Oct. 19th PPIR was doomed for closure BEFORE ISC purchased it.

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/viewarticle.html?id=14704

Something that was posted here just doesn't make logical sense.
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I can only assume that ISC has plans to build another track somewhere in the Denver area, since their conditions for the sale of the PPIR property stipulate "that the property not be used for motorsports-related events."

The implication being that ISC would only buy it if that was in the contract. Now how in the heck does that make any sense at all? IF ISC was buying it the could just not run any races there if that is what they so chose to do. IF ISC decided to sell it THEN they could put that stipulation in the sales agreement. However the wording being in the sales agreement TO ISC tells me the owners of PPIR did NOT want ISC running races there.

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D'oh! The IRL must've known something was up when they left PPIR off their '06 schedule.


Is that also why the IRL left CA and Pheonix off their schedlue?
Looks to me like the IRL is in a bit of trouble and pulling in its wings just a bit by eliminating the races furthest to the west requiring the most travel.

It would also appear that the IRL's decision to not return to PPIR was the final nail in the coffin for this track. Without them it was not financially possible to continue running this track which spurred the sale. It would also appear that because of the stipulation in the sales agreement that it was a bitter sale.

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Do you know that nascar and ISC promised the IRL 5 or 6 dates where they would run right after or before the busch or trucks and they went back on their promise?.


How do you know it was NASCAR that went back on their word and not the IRL that couldn't come up with dates that was acceptable to all parties?
Why in the world is it NASCAR's responsibility to provide one of its series as a companion race to another series to help them grow their series? Although NASCAR does do that in many instances for the IRL with the Trucks, Busch or GN West Series as in CA this year. In most cases the NASCAR Truck or Busch Series draws bigger crowds than the IRL race itself, so maybe the IRL should just be considered a companion race to them?

Rereading through this whole thread one thing becomes clearly apperant and that is there are several people that blame NASCAR and ISC for ALL the evils of the world and no matter what happens it is their fault regardless that others lack of planning or mismanagement may have brought on their own demise.
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Just as Lappy has done. Sorry Lappy, but I would venture to say that if you had stock in ISC, you might have a different opinion of them.
 
Well, i might be making money off them, but i still don't like some of the things they do, and how they do them, but i dont want to cause a threed drift
 
So pretty much from what i have read above is that it is going to be closed .....no races? I just can't see ISC tearing dismantling that place, the city of Fountain CO. must be devastated. This whole thing makes no sense to me, especially 8 months ago when i was living there and there was serious talk of PPIR getting a CUP date in 07 !!!!!
 
I used to live 5 minutes from the track and went to many races there, it was a nice facility. They are going to dismantle the stands and sell them. Then they are going to tear up the track. Its too bad, the IRL and Busch races were exciting.
 
Wow rip up the track, man that just seems like such a waste. Makes me think that ISC has plans for a track in the Denver area. That way they wouldn't have the competition of a track 75 miles down the road.
 
Did you read the article??

The track was sold TO ISC with the stipulation that it could Never be used to hold auto races again.
 
Duh.... yeh eagle i read the article. Still makes no sense to rip up a perfectly good facility.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Duh.... yeh eagle i read the article. Still makes no sense to rip up a perfectly good facility.
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Wow rip up the track, man that just seems like such a waste. Makes me think that ISC has plans for a track in the Denver area. That way they wouldn't have the competition of a track 75 miles down the road.
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Well Duhhhh....... but even though it was the owners of PPIR to write the stipulation into the contract, you continue to insist that it's ISC's doing??

Yeah right I understand, ISC & NASCAR represent the evil empires in the world so no matter who is actually to blame it MUST be ISC & NASCAR's fault.

As far as it being a waste to tear up the track, I agree 100%. I really loved that track and the fact it was 1 mile and not a cookie cutter.
 
Where did i say it was ISC doing the dirty work? I said ISC bought the track , i did not know the details that is why i started this thread to hopefully find out what the hell was going on. All i am saying is that it seems like a huge waste of money to rip up a great track, makes no sense that the owners of PPIR(Former)would write that into the contract. There is something else going on here, probably has a lot to do with that market area getting a Cup date. With a little bit of ISCs' mega money PPIR could have a CUP date. Why does it have to be Denver metro? The biggest problem with PPIR is the traffic flow, also a few more hotels would be needed in the Colorado Springs area to accomodate all the fans. It would be a huge plus for this city and the city of Fountain where the track is actually located to keep this track operational with a cup date. I'm sure there are lot of upset people in that area, hell i'm upset and i don't even live there anymore. I'm not sure if it is ISC that is the root of the problem or it is Nascar, or maybe even the people that once owned PPIR. I never said ISC was an evil empire, don't put words in my mouth.
 
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