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The show must not go on!

The Nationwide Series debut at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway was the NASCAR version of Great White Way flops like “Springtime for Hitler” and “Spider-Man, the Musical.”

After 30 years of holding one of the best races of all three NASCAR top divisions at the nearby Lucas Oil Raceway, the Nationwide Series was yanked from its short track roots to run as a companion event to Sunday's Brickyard 400 Sprint Cup Series race.

(I realize the official name of this year's race is a sponsor-palooza title that would take up too much space in this blog post so I'm going with Brickyard 400).

And as many feared it turned out to be a monumentally bad idea.

A sparse crowd “announced” at 40,000 filed into the mammoth Indy stadium, which would have been close to a sell out at the Lucas Oil short track but looked like a party of two eating dinner at a banquet table on Saturday.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nascar/blog/eye-on-nascar/19678851/indy-nationwide-show-must-not-go-on
 
A Note to Indianapolis Motor Speedway:

What a shame that you did not contact the fellas at Augusta National concerning how to uphold tradition.

Seeing 40,000 fans (maybe) at the cavernous brickyard was a bit sad for me after growing up with the "Greatest Spectacle in Racing". Once Jim Nabors croaks I guess we will have a hip-hop version of "Back Home Again in Indiana" ...

Oh well - nothing lasts forever I guess - hoping for a good BY400.
 
I have to agree leaving IRP was insane. I think the competitors and the media knows it, but drivers can't risk the fines for talking, and the media knows better than to challenge them.

The race was an eye sore and exposed nascar as becoming a reject on this particular day. The empty
grandstands stands scream, and it is an indisputable thing.
Thank goodness because putting on good races should always be first and foremost concern. They fans in this case were screwed, because the corporate side and shareholders (bastards) have taken preeminence, while the putting the best race possible, or respecting the fans should have always been the most important thing.

Priorities need adjusting, and the no turn out sent a good message, worth celebrating imo.
 
It is like Nascar are clueless. They think they know what their fans want, but are way far off. Fans don't want to see NNS at IMS, and they definitely didn't want to see a Cup regular win today.
 
Greg said:
I have to agree leaving IRP was insane. I think the competitors and the media knows it, but drivers can't risk the fines for talking, and the media knows better than to challenge them.

The race was an eye sore and exposed nascar as becoming a reject on this particular day. The empty
grandstands stands scream, and it is an indisputable thing.
Thank goodness because putting on good races should always be first and foremost concern. They fans in this case were screwed, because the corporate side and shareholders (bastards) have taken preeminence, while the putting the best race possible, or respecting the fans should have always been the most important thing.

Priorities need adjusting, and the no turn out sent a good message, worth celebrating imo.
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I've got to agree with this one. All the barking I've done, it certainly shows I'm not in the minority about my thoughts on the so-called "racing" going on.
 
The Nationwide Series debut at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway was the NASCAR version of Great White Way flops like “Springtime for Hitler” and “Spider-Man, the Musical.”
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Poor reporting when it comes to facts. Spider-Man the Musical isn't a flop yet, it's still open and it's making money every week.
 
Rockingham got almost as many people for a standalone truck race as Nationwide did today.

NASCAR needs to admit the Indy experiment has failed. Their attendance there is rapidly declining each year. "40,000 people" at a track that can hold 400,000 is a farce.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Just like you and other fans don't care if Americans win in IndyCar or not, right?
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I'm not sure how most Indycar fans feel about that. With nascar, I think the average fan doesn't really care who wins the nationwide races but then again the average nascar fan probably isn't watching this series in the first place lol
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Rockingham got almost as many people for a standalone truck race as Nationwide did today.

NASCAR needs to admit the Indy experiment has failed. Their attendance there is rapidly declining each year. "40,000 people" at a track that can hold 400,000 is a farce.
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I think because there is so little short track racing left in nascar, they should put IRP on the schedule on a different date. That Indy race was one of the better stockcar races at Indy I've ever seen. I realize that isn't saying much, but NASCAR isn't going to pull Indy off the schedule anytime soon.
 
How did Nascar make any money with the NW race yesterday? I understand race sponsors account for a lot of it, but paying for everything at a huge venue like that couldn't of left much room for profit. Like any other race these days it was all dependent on track position, getting out front in clean air, rather than actually racing. I did see some passing mid pack, but this doesn't even come close to the quality of racing at IRP. Nascar once again goes another step in the wrong direction and doesn't listen to the critics. Forty thousand was being pretty generous as far as the attendance, it certainly looked horrible on TV, really what was Nascar thinking when they did this? Nascar needs more tracks like IRP, not less, once again they have failed.
 
Not to mention this was always the week that the Super Latemodel and Sprint car teams were able to race in front of the nationwide guys and owners at IRP. Was always a great opportunity for those guys to make some contacts and network for future driving.
 
basscatcher89 said:
Not to mention this was always the week that the Super Latemodel and Sprint car teams were able to race in front of the nationwide guys and owners at IRP. Was always a great opportunity for those guys to make some contacts and network for future driving.
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I don't think NASCAR cares about young guys getting exposure.
 
Mopardh9 said:
How did Nascar make any money with the NW race yesterday? I understand race sponsors account for a lot of it, but paying for everything at a huge venue like that couldn't of left much room for profit. Like any other race these days it was all dependent on track position, getting out front in clean air, rather than actually racing. I did see some passing mid pack, but this doesn't even come close to the quality of racing at IRP. Nascar once again goes another step in the wrong direction and doesn't listen to the critics. Forty thousand was being pretty generous as far as the attendance, it certainly looked horrible on TV, really what was Nascar thinking when they did this? Nascar needs more tracks like IRP, not less, once again they have failed.
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They probably only needed one concession stand, one port a John, and only one security officer with only one bullet to handle the grandstands. There was probably more people in pits than the grandstands too.
 
I totally agree that leaving IRP, I too think of it that way always, was a big mistake. That being said, I heard that IRP was wanting to emphasize their drag racing and really didn't care to have the trucks and Nationwide any more. Sad since although the facilities sucked, the racing was always top notch and there was always a crowd.
 
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