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NASCAR will change its point system for 2004. An announcement could come as early as the Winston Cup awards banquet next month in New York, but more likely it will be made during the annual media tour in January. The new system is expected to award more points for wins and discourage drivers in damaged cars from returning to the track just to collect additional points. . . .
 
Doesn't sound like a major change(unless you are Newman)lol. It would be nice to see the pole winner with extra points. I wonder how damaged a car has to be before it can't return to the track?
 
Jayski reported that wins could be worth 10 to 15 points more.

Also, he reports that it's being considered that cars from 37th on back may receive the same amount of points to discourage just riding around in a severely damaged car.
 
And you honestly think that Lee Spencer is a credible source?????
 
Nope. I Mike Mulhurn am the credible source! Muhahahaha!!!!!
 
I think Jayski is a credible choice though and I think that giving the cars in the back mor epoints is a good idea...unless Matt Kenseth finishes back there...wait were talking about next year :p
 
Originally posted by racersimage@Nov 4 2003, 08:19 PM
I think Jayski is a credible choice though and I think that giving the cars in the back mor epoints is a good idea...unless Matt Kenseth finishes back there...wait were talking about next year :p
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Good point...only problem is that Matt's worst finish this year is 36th...so he'd still get more points! :p
 
Originally posted by racersimage@Nov 5 2003, 02:19 AM
I think Jayski is a credible choice though and I think that giving the cars in the back mor epoints is a good idea...unless Matt Kenseth finishes back there...wait were talking about next year :p
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Jayski only places news articles from other sources.

Anything anyone sees on the Jayski website is reading something that has been published in a periodical somewhere in the world at an earlier date.

Jayski is only as credible as the news articles he places on his website and it is so stated on the home page and the credibility of the articles are only as reputable as the writers.

Besides, Jayski is from southern New Jersey.

DID I SAY NEW JERSEY???

And what does a guy from New Jersey know about NASCAR racing??
I mean, New Jersey is above the Mason - Dixon line. So how much could he know?? Really ??

If he were from, say, Charlotte, he might have a tinge of knowledge and first hand information about NASCAR racing and especially the history of the sport. But New Jersey ??? Hell, that alone is suspect as to his personal credibility. Huummmmmmmmm !! I wonder if he glows in the dark from drinking the water there??? Maybe it has affected his thinking.

As a Sussex County boy, it is easy to understand how other people think when it comes to NASCAR and folks from NJ. Or NY, Conn, PA, NH, ME, etc.. :cheers:
 
Actually there are many instances where Jayski indicates that he is hearing from sources. He has indicated in interviews that those sources are generally someone within said orginization.
 
Posted on the Jayski home page.
NOTE:
The opinions expressed in any editorial/article linked on the site are not of the Jayski site but are presented in the interest of giving readers a variety of points of views and some enjoyment.
Questions about their content or objections to those opinions
should be directed towards the author of the article or the site that posts it.



Personally, I am not a frequent visitor of Jayski's website. I have never seen him post an interview or rumor and this disclaimer was accepted as his way of saying, he only posts what others give him and if you don't like it, go elsewhere.

As an aside, Jayski has broken the law of probability and will be relocating to Charlotte in January of 2004. So much for New Jersey. He'll miss the Jersey shore. :D
 
Originally posted by Whizzer@Nov 5 2003, 09:59 AM
As an aside, Jayski has broken the law of probability and will be relocating to Charlotte in January of 2004. So much for New Jersey. He'll miss the Jersey shore.  :D
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Beat me to it Whiz...was going to mention him moving to NC.
 
Originally posted by Whizzer@Nov 5 2003, 10:59 AM
Posted on the Jayski home page.
NOTE:
The opinions expressed in any editorial/article linked on the site are not of the Jayski site but are presented in the interest of giving readers a variety of points of views and some enjoyment.
Questions about their content or objections to those opinions
should be directed towards the author of the article or the site that posts it.



Personally, I am not a frequent visitor of Jayski's website. I have never seen him post an interview or rumor and this disclaimer was accepted as his way of saying, he only posts what others give him and if you don't like it, go elsewhere.

As an aside, Jayski has broken the law of probability and will be relocating to Charlotte in January of 2004. So much for New Jersey. He'll miss the Jersey shore. :D
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That is a bit out of context to the dicsucss. That comes from the articles on other sites.

On the front page where he lists the news/rumors, he will always credit the soruce of the info if it is a publication. If he says, I am hearing that... then that is one of his sources inside the teams. Other wise the publication is listed.
 
Originally posted by Whizzer@Nov 5 2003, 08:57 AM
And what does a guy from New Jersey know about NASCAR racing??
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Not to be defending NJ (heaven forbid) but I think most people would agree Ray Evernham has figured out a few things about NASCAR.
 
Too bad NACAR's backing out of previous statements on revising the points system,looks like no changes will be forthcoming for 2004,shame IMO,some tweaking would be good :eek:
 
Man, all this after a Ford wins the points. Where was all this in 2002 when Matt won the most races? Oh yeah, that's right...a chebbie won the points, so all was well with NASCAR.

The points system is not broken just because a chebbie failed to win it. I know that's difficult for most to grasp, but it's true.
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Dec 9 2003, 08:52 AM
Man, all this after a Ford wins the points. Where was all this in 2002 when Matt won the most races? Oh yeah, that's right...a chebbie won the points, so all was well with NASCAR.

The points system is not broken just because a chebbie failed to win it. I know that's difficult for most to grasp, but it's true.
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no it's not true, now if ford won the manufacture title over and over then we would hear about them changing the point system in the manufacture title, matt won the driver's title, what make of car he had nothing to do with the threat of changing the point system.

Oh by the way last year there was 7 fords in the top ten last year, why was'nt there talk of changing the point system last year? Because there was an actual race for the champioship down to the last race. If we had a race for the championship like we did last year there would never be any talk about changing the point system.
 
So all those years when Dale wrapped it up races before the end of the season are different somehow I take it. Those times when Jeffy won it early are different in some meaningful way.

It's another case of the chebbie crybabies moaning and howling because they got beat.
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Dec 9 2003, 11:05 AM
So all those years when Dale wrapped it up races before the end of the season are different somehow I take it. Those times when Jeffy won it early are different in some meaningful way.

It's another case of the chebbie crybabies moaning and howling because they got beat.
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Back then, there was not one word of them wanting to change the points
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Dec 9 2003, 10:05 AM
It's another case of the chebbie crybabies moaning and howling because they got beat.
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Please give me a reference to this statement! I have heard not one single chevy driver whine, moan or complain about getting beat. Most of them said that they should have (and some could have) done more during the season to win the Championship. I haven't even actually heard where a driver, or owner for that matter, have requested that the points system be changed. I've heard/read that Jeff Gordon stated that IF the points scoring system was changed that it shouldn't be a drastic change, and at the most maybe giving the race winner 5 or 10 more points and maybe the pole winner 5 points. I really get tired of hearing the Ford vs. Chevy argument being the sole reason for all requested changes to anything. Give me a break. Ford Owners whine. Chevy Owners whine. Dodge Owners whine. They all do at some time or another.
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Dec 9 2003, 07:52 AM
Man, all this after a Ford wins the points.  Where was all this in 2002 when Matt won the most races?  Oh yeah, that's right...a chebbie won the points, so all was well with NASCAR. 

The points system is not broken just because a chebbie failed to win it.  I know that's difficult for most to grasp, but it's true.
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I believe TS was still in a Pontiac when he won the 2002 Title.


EMP, the point system changing talk had nothing to do with Chvey vs. Ford. It was Matt vs. Dale Jr. Big Bill hinted at it once earlier this season & the media kept rehashing it over the entire season because the 'chosen one' was 2nd in points thoughout most of the season. :lol: IMO, had Jr. been up by as many 340 points like Matt was at one point...we would have never heard about Big Bill's comments again. We would have been reading about the 'legacy' living on.
 
To the poster that's going the Chevy vs. Ford argument,as mentioned earlier and rightfully so,that has nothing to do with the driver's Championship,although most drivers Championships have been won by drivers that happened to be in Chevy's.
Consider though that in 2003,yes Matt Kenseth and the #17 team did great in bringing home Jack Rouch's 1st Championship in a Ford,but look below Matt,there's Jimmie Johnson,Dale Earnhardt Jr.,Jeff Gordon and Kevin Harvick,that's 4 Chevy's in the Tolp 5 of the point standings,not too shabby of a performance.
U want to talk the Manufacturers Championship,consider Chevy's 19 wins,compared to 9 wins for Dodge,7 wins for Ford and 1 win for Pontiac,further proof is that Chevy led the most laps in 2003. :eek:
 
had Jr. been up by as many 340 points like Matt was at one point...we would have never heard about Big Bill's comments again. We would have been reading about the 'legacy' living on

:rolleyes: here we go
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