Possible Change to Daytona Qualification?

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Found this on jayski.com this morning:
Change in Sprint Cup qualifying? NASCAR is considering a new system that would change the order of qualifying. Instead of drawing for qualifying order as teams have done in previous seasons, the qualifying order would at least in part be determined by speed in the practice prior to qualifying. Teams in the Camping World Truck Series already use the system [a few times in 2010]. "It is a possibility. & We're throwing a bunch of ideas around in the meetings with the teams," NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Director John Darby said Friday. "We want to finish all the meetings, get everybody's input and then finalize some stuff." The idea is to have the faster drivers, the ones who will challenge for the pole, qualify near the end of the session and add drama to the qualifying show. It is possible that the drivers not locked in the field because their teams are outside the top 35 in owner points will still be grouped together at the end of the session.(SceneDaily)(1-22-2011)

 
Isn't it already an advantage starting later in the day for Daytona qualifying when it is somewhat cooler? I get what they are trying to do but to give the fastest an even further advantage doesn't make much sense to me.

If they want to change anything, once again, drop the top 35 rule and make the duels mean something again. They try to make the points system easier for the mentally challenged yet you need a slide rule and protractor to figure out what positions the go or go homers have to be to make the race.
 
So was it last year or the year before last where BF (or is it BFF...Brian Foolish France) that said something along the lines of "we're going to stop making so many changes because the fans aren't liking all the changes." Has anyone kept score since he said that?
 
I really don't care. I have really enjoyed watching the cars on the track. I am truly looking forward to getting back to the local short tracks.
 
Brain's going to continue fixing Na$car until it's broken beyond repair.:rolleyes:
 
Note to Brian Z, Mike Helton and John Darby : Drama is for the theater and for soap operas. It's good only for an Academy Award, NOT for the [Insert Sponsor's Name Here] Cup.The sport is racing. Just give the race fans good, unmanipulated, hard fought racing to win on tracks that aren't "One size fits all," and guess what? You'd have to turn away the fans wanting to attend one of your events!

Quit worrying about the drama and the championship and concern yourself with the week-to-week racing. If you give folks really good racing then everything else will just naturally fall into place.
 
More change just for the sake of change huh? I think the qualifying thing is pretty silly to be honest. It's still the same guys that start up front so why bother?
 
I really don't care. I have really enjoyed watching the cars on the track. I am truly looking forward to getting back to the local short tracks.

Me too, that is where the best racing is!
 
Me too, that is where the best racing is!
Totally agree, Rufus. I try and go at least twice a month, sometimes more. BTW, when talking to people at your local track, have you noticed how many have given up on NA__AR?

I don't know how it is up there, or if it's just a local thing, but down here a lot of my friends at the local tracks have gone from being rabid NASCAR fans to having casual interest and being infrequent watchers. Are you getting any of that up there?
 
In a word, YES. People I know are fed up with it. Of course most of them are like myself "old school" , beer and hot dogs not whine and cheese fans.

At your next Na$car race look around. What are the guys wearing? Not like it was 15-20 years ago with work boots and Dickies pants and shirts. Now it's Sperry TopSiders and khaki's, note their manicured hands. They call AAA to change a tire,,,,,:sarcasm:
 
At your next Na$car race look around. What are the guys wearing? Not like it was 15-20 years ago with work boots and Dickies pants and shirts. Now it's Sperry TopSiders and khaki's, note their manicured hands. They call AAA to change a tire,,,,,:sarcasm:
Not down here. Sure there are a few who look that way, but for the biggest majority, you can tell they are rednecks and proud of it. When they have a demolition derby, it looks like the entire trailer court has come out to the track. :D Oh, but there is one big difference from 15-20 years ago and that is the number of females that have tatoos...even the older ones.
 
Not down here. Sure there are a few who look that way, but for the biggest majority, you can tell they are rednecks and proud of it. When they have a demolition derby, it looks like the entire trailer court has come out to the track. :D Oh, but there is one big difference from 15-20 years ago and that is the number of females that have tatoos...even the older ones.
That's the way it looks, in some part, at all three of our local tracks, too, Buck. Blue collar all the way. There are a few yuppies but their hearts are in the right place. The chicks with ink...??? I have never been able to understand the mentality behind that one. But then, I come from a completely different generation, too. There is a statement being made but...? It ain't my skin. I spent 22 years in the Navy and I never got one.

I think what SST was pointing at was the attendees at a NA__AR Cup or Cup Lite race, for the most part. There, it seems sometimes, the measure of the fan is not knowledge about racing or about cars, but more about how much money has been spent on memorabilia and/or how much they know about the private life of "Their" driver.

Racing is secondary to being able to watch "Their" driver drive around and around.

I think that was the kind of thing SST was alluding to.
 
You are perzactly right:D I think :D :D :D


As for tats, I just don't get it. Thinking back of my dad's old Navy buddies who had them and how they looked 40 years after they got them I don't know why a young woman would want one. Especially a "tramp stamp".

That cute little butterfly is going to look like a vulture in 40 years,,,,:)
 
IF they go with this suggested format, I wonder if NA__AR considered what it would do to the strategy of the cars which aren't among the Chosen 35? Having to worry about not just making the race but also about getting a good qualifying position (read: late or early, depending on the race) just throws them even more behind the power curve.

Naw, probably not. NA__AR would prefer that these teams sell out to the megateams anyway and just go away.
 
Totally agree, Rufus. I try and go at least twice a month, sometimes more. BTW, when talking to people at your local track, have you noticed how many have given up on NA__AR?

I don't know how it is up there, or if it's just a local thing, but down here a lot of my friends at the local tracks have gone from being rabid NASCAR fans to having casual interest and being infrequent watchers. Are you getting any of that up there?

Some, but most of them still pay attention to what is happening in Cup.
 
You are perzactly right:D I think :D :D :D


As for tats, I just don't get it. Thinking back of my dad's old Navy buddies who had them and how they looked 40 years after they got them I don't know why a young woman would want one. Especially a "tramp stamp".

That cute little butterfly is going to look like a vulture in 40 years,,,,:)

ROFLMAO......isn't that the truth!!:growl:
 
I actually like certain tats on women, I can't stand Tramp stamps or any generic tats. However if they got the tat to express themselves, then more power to them. Then again, I'm attracted to the more artistic or goth chicks myself.
 
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