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Everyone talks about drivers have great cars and that why they win or have big stats, but seriously in todays nascar is it possible to win if you dont have the financial backing that the big dogs do.
 
i think anyone has a chance...but the smaller the team and budget the smaller the chance
 
The odds aren't as good,but it's possible due to being a better driver that you would have a better chance in a not so good car.
 
It dont seem to happen much though, look at the winners the last few seasons. How many werent apart of the high budgeted teams.


DEI,Yates,Gibbs,hendricks,roush...
 
i dont think i will vote, just the way it is worder i cant fit a anwser in.

i will say yes, but olny on LUCK
 
I don't care if the pope is driving, if he don't have a performace race car he won't win.
 
So many things come into play here: Money, Equipment, Crew,Track, and Driver. Even if the driver is outstanding ...say like Jeffy , by placing him in another ride like say the #14, he would have a heck of a time winning a race . It sure would be fun to see him try though!
 
How true,If a race horse doesn't even show up,and get out of the gate he won't even place.:)
 
Hey finally got that yellow stripe off my butt! Anyway i think talent has a lot to do with it, but no matter how talented you are if the equipment is sub-par you can only do so much. Meaning a top 25 car with a great driver might make the top 15. A top 15 car with a great driver might crack the top 10 or so. But a top 5 car with a so so driver might not necessarily make it into the top 15. All the ingredients have to be there.
 
No more Punk rookie,Good Job.Now your next thing is to ride the goat. :D
 
Safe huh....hmmm safe from what....lol, well all i know is that i will take me a long time to get to 1000.
 
No way,just don't watch the clock,You will be there before you know it.:)
 
Not enough choices for me to vote. As stated by others there are too many circumstances including wrecks and luck that enter into the formula.
 
I say yes. Look who won at the Rock in the fall. Johnny Benson in a mid class car(Ok high mid class) even though valvoline is part owner in the car they do not have alot of money. I don't think Valvoline gives the 10 team $10 million a year. Most of the teams that win gets around $15-$20 Million a year.
Other teams have very good shots as well, Look at Jerry Nadeau in the 44 car at Sears Points(Infenion) the 14 at Watkins Glen and the plate tracks, Davey Blaney has a good shot at winning races this year and ran great last year. Ricky Craven won in 2001 and was also close a few times in 2002.
SO Yes mid or low class teams can win, just the odds are stacked against them
 
Odds?I would not doubt for one second that Dave Blaney may finish 5th or better at Daytona. And Benson may pull of the win.Mark will finish in the top 10.;)
 
Benson will win!!! I think(hope) that MBV will be a consitant threat for top 10s and top 5s, and will win 2 or 3 races!! MBV will be the top team, that is not a power house like, HMS, Roucsh, Yates,Gibbs, Penske etc
 
Benson is the exception rather than the rule.

I point to super sub, Mike Wallace. This kid has proven he has the talent to drive with the big boys. His sled won't keep up. Put him in, say, the 25 for a season or two, and he'd win a race somewhere.
 
Without the finanial backing, it's still possible to win, but much less likely.
 
An underfinanced team has as much chance as a snowball in Hades of winning any race on the Winston Cup Series tour.

There are so many variables to consider other than accidents, but if an underfinanced team were to win, a ten thousand to one shot at best, it would be at a restrictor plate track where there have been many "one-win-wonders".

But......... consider the team must practice no less than three times each week to perfect pit stops, and where do dedicated volunteers come from who are willing to do this religiously. How many engines can a team have when engines cost between 75 and 100,000 dollars each. And the engineers who help design the nuances necessary to eliminate aero push, etc., etc., etc..

No underfunded team can win. Any team running a FULL Winston Cup schedule and hanging in the top twenty-five in points is a well funded team. It has always been that way and it always will be that way. There are and have been many respectably financed teams who never finish in the top twenty, as demonstrated by Michael Waltrip when driving for Bahari Motor Sports or Bobby Hamilton with the Galaxy Motors team. Or yes, even Darrell Waltrip with his resume and financing from Western Auto as a sponsor failing to qualify and backpacker Carl Long taking the spot. Or Bill Elliott and his McDonalds team.

A solid commitment from EVERY team member must accompany each entrance the team makes through the garage gate and onto pit road. Every team member must eat, live, dream, sleep, work and poop NASCAR and winning to be in the top twenty-five. Underfunded !! By who's standards?? Any financial package less than eight million per year is underfunded by todays standards.

Of course guys like Dave Marcis, Jimmy Means and Brett Bodine could give lessons to underfunded teams on how to stay alive in the series. But even for them the price tag is and will eventually get too high.
 
I think a driver can but it would be very,very hard. Cause if he is in a lower class team they dont have much money, so they cant build really fast cars with all of the stuff other teams got. That way it would be harder to compeat with the other teams. But it the drive is good enough I beleive he can win.
 
Oh Im sure they can win a couple races, but I just dont think its possible for a driver in a mid or low classed car to win a championship or even get a top 5 finish in the points.
 
true true Nascar is just a money spot incase you dident know
 
Possibly on a short track. It's more of a drivers type of track rather then that of a plate track or the mile plus tracks. We have seen that anyone with enough $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ can win at a plate race. Just my thought.
 
Yep plate races take too much R&D .....and DEI does a lot of that in their programs that is why they are so good on those tracks. Like you said short track is about HORSES....a lot of underfunded programs can build a good motor for 1 race.
 
How do you figure? A Short track program is easier on a smaller team, less to worry about, plus the short track racing these days takes into account the survival rate factor. More like a demolition derby than racing. Most guys cut their teeth on this kind of racing and there is also more of chance of a first time winner . A lot of times the big guns get taken out early in the race giving the little guys a chance.
 
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