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I guess winning the pole and moving back to lead from the end of the longest line doesn't qualify as being the best. ^... right backatcha...
 
That race was won by a foot on pit road.
The 9 would have faded on the long green run whereas the 16 and the 99 got better on the long run.
 
I agree with Buck.

NASCAR isn't just about winning the race. It's about who can pull the best strategy and who has the best TEAM, among other things.
 
No,No,No..........Maybe at one time, that's what nascar was about. Now it's about this--->$$$ and consistently being inconsistent. :huh:
 
BobbyFord said:
That race was won by a foot on pit road.
The 9 would have faded on the long green run whereas the 16 and the 99 got better on the long run.
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Me, I slept thru most of it. I didn't see the end but I was able to rewind the Tivo back to see Jimmie had increased his points lead and that 'the Biff' was in, barely...
 
^ talking about points...i wonder why biffle was ahead of jeff gordon in the standings when jeff was leading the race and biffle back in like 12th or 11th possition...kind of ridiculous i'd say :(
 
cuz NASCAR is yet to figure out that bonus points based on the top 5 at the halfay point would help keep points consistent. If they had that type of points system, biffle would have a showing for leading the most laps many times this year before blowing it up
 
Well i watched the entire race, the best car won, like Buck said. Nascars' point system could use a little tweaking, but it is what it is. Kahne showed he had the best car all weekend, who was better?
 
Mopardh9 said:
Well i watched the entire race, the best car won
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By your avatar and log on name this surprises me that you'd feel this way. :)
 
^ lol indeed.

the 9 car was by no means the best car in the field, he just happened to be at the right place and in the right time, not to take anything away from the 9 bunch because they were indeed fast. but to say it was THE fastest...not quite
 
The #9 wasn't the fastest car in the field when the caution waved and simply saying it was doesn't make it so. He was, however, leading. Congrats to him and his team.

Now, where's the #15 when there's a cheapo up for grabs?
 
I said he was the best car! He won, he beat Edwards out of the pits on the last caution, he won the Pole, he won the race. Just so you guys know he is my favorite driver, but that doesn't mean i don't like other guys. I just see no justification for saying he wasn't the best car, he won the race, so i'd say that means he was the best. He overcame the overheating issue, raced back to the front , passed cars on the outside with ease. You don't have to be the fastest car all day to be the best.
 
Mopardh9 said:
I said he was the best car! He won, he beat Edwards out of the pits on the last caution, he won the Pole, he won the race. Just so you guys know he is my favorite driver, but that doesn't mean i don't like other guys. I just see no justification for saying he wasn't the best car, he won the race, so i'd say that means he was the best. He overcame the overheating issue, raced back to the front , passed cars on the outside with ease. You don't have to be the fastest car all day to be the best.
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I agree with you. The best car did win.
 
did it really?

ask yourself this then...

what if michael waltrip had won it? could it be that he was the best car out just because he beat him out the pits?
 
BobbyFord said:
That race was won by a foot on pit road.
The 9 would have faded on the long green run whereas the 16 and the 99 got better on the long run.
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Who's to say if the race went to whole 200 laps there wouldn't have been a late caution and Kahne comes out first again, then wins?
 
reck said:
did it really?

ask yourself this then...

what if michael waltrip had won it? could it be that he was the best car out just because he beat him out the pits?
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Yeh still the best, he didn't get passed on the track for the win, he stayed ahead , so i'd say he was the best at the time of the checker. :cool: You win races in the pits, you also lose them.
 
The #9 wasn't the fastest car in the field when the caution waved and simply saying it was doesn't make it so. He was, however, leading. Congrats to him and his team.
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Actually your wrong I watched the race again last night with Tivo and before the caution came out they said Kasey had the fastest time not 5 laps before the caution came out.
 
All I know, whatever you do....DO NOT click on Moparh9's name to see his personal info. I've got to go bathe in alcohol now. :eek:
 
Mopardh9 said:
Yeh still the best, he didn't get passed on the track for the win, he stayed ahead , so i'd say he was the best at the time of the checker. :cool: You win races in the pits, you also lose them.
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he did not get pass for the lead because there was no chance to.
 
The 99 and the 16 were adjusted in the pits for the long run. In my opinion they would have reeled in the 9 on a long green run and passed him. That's just my opinion and we'll never really know.
 
indeed.

that's what our friend here is failing to see. how many times did jeff went pass him? oh like 3 or 4 times...so much for unbeatable
 
The 99 and the 16 were adjusted in the pits for the long run. In my opinion they would have reeled in the 9 on a long green run and passed him. That's just my opinion and we'll never really know.
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I'll agree with that who really knows who would of won the race if it went the whole 200 laps. However the fastest car on the track right before the caution came out won the race. Come on now he won the pole was a lap down came back to take the lead in what 50 laps. Had a great pit stop to keep the lead. ANY driver that would of done that would of been impressive to me.


indeed. that's what our friend here is failing to see. how many times did jeff went pass him? oh like 3 or 4 times...so much for unbeatable
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Grin...Gordon passed him 3-4 times the first what 10 laps. Were talking the other 90 laps of the race when kasey made a lap up then past Gordon as he went and took the lead. :)
 
We could debate this issue forever. Kasey won a rain shortened race, there could of been a lot of what ifs, but there weren't. This next race will be a true test for the 9 team, Kasey hasn't run that well on road courses. If the 9 team can put together a solid top ten at Infineon it would be huge.
 
Brickyard_400 said:
Actually your wrong I watched the race again last night with Tivo and before the caution came out they said Kasey had the fastest time not 5 laps before the caution came out.
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5 laps before the caution. Exactly.
 
Grin...Gordon passed him 3-4 times the first what 10 laps. Were talking the other 90 laps of the race when kasey made a lap up then past Gordon as he went and took the lead. :)
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yeah with new tires... he sure did feel like flash with those, so you cant really argue new with old tires that just ain't right. :cool:

We could debate this issue forever. Kasey won a rain shortened race, there could of been a lot of what ifs, but there weren't.
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that's true, i'm willing to drop my case now lol :p
 
CypressTrout said:
All I know, whatever you do....DO NOT click on Moparh9's name to see his personal info. I've got to go bathe in alcohol now. :eek:
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Just what does that comment have to do with this thread? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :confused:
 
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