Betsy
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And I am love'n it!
Betsy
Betsy
Raining...Jeffey is gonna get the pole!
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Patrick9999
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Betsy is first and foremost a closet Robbie Gordon fan. 
J/K Betsy.
J/K Betsy.
kelloggs5TLfan
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Betsy is first and foremost a closet Robbie Gordon fan.
J/K Betsy.
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RobbyG Fan
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Only reason why Betsy doesnt like Robby is because Robby pulled "THE JEFF GORDON MOVE" on Jeff back in New Hampshire in 2001.
Hey Reck. Welcome back
Betsy
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Jeff had the fastest car all race long in that race. Jeff PASSED the "other" Gordon and was bumped out of the lead at the first turn after passing him.
It was obvious to all viewers it was intentional.. As the "other" Gordon had the slower car.
Betsy
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Well it's nice to see that some posters have grown up and not made the obvious joke about the title.
Or, maybe they just have chimed in yet...
Supposed to rain tomorrow too.
Gordon to start from pole after rain washes out quals
Three drivers miss Daytona field despite solid runs
By Mark Long, The Associated Press
July 6, 2007
09:08 PM EDT
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Qualifying for the Pepsi 400 was washed out Friday, leaving several teams out of the season's second race at NASCAR's most storied track.
Nextel Cup Series points leader Jeff Gordon was awarded the pole. Denny Hamlin will start second, followed by Matt Kenseth, Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Burton.
"It's unfortunate you can't control Mother Nature, and the rules are what the rules are," Gordon said. "It's hard to be too overjoyed about this pole because I do feel for those guys."
Boris Said and two others were poised to make the race, but steady rain forced NASCAR officials to cancel the qualifying session with 14 cars left to make runs. NASCAR couldn't postpone qualifying much longer because of the Busch Series race scheduled to start later Friday.
Said was sitting on the pole when the rain started, and Dave Blaney, Jeremy Mayfield, Kenny Wallace, Michael Waltrip, Scott Riggs and David Reutimann also were in position to make the 43-car field.
But three of the top seven cars that had completed runs were bumped because NASCAR uses owner points to set the starting grid when qualifying gets canceled.
"Believe me, I would rather we qualify and end up 30th or 35th and let those guys do what they earned than back into a second-place start like we did [Friday]," Hamlin said. "It's really not worth it to me because we know what all those other teams are going through just trying to make these races. You definitely sympathize for them."
The top 35 spots in the field were set using owner points. Brian Vickers will start 36th because he won a race last season. Dale Jarrett and Bill Elliott got the next two spots as past series champions.
The last five spots went to Riggs, Blaney, Paul Menard, David Reutimann and Wallace -- based on owner points and number of qualifying attempts this season.
Ward Burton would have gotten in over Wallace, but he had made one less qualifying attempt this season.
"It is a shame for a lot of those guys," Gordon said.
Three drivers miss Daytona field despite solid runs
By Mark Long, The Associated Press
July 6, 2007
09:08 PM EDT
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Qualifying for the Pepsi 400 was washed out Friday, leaving several teams out of the season's second race at NASCAR's most storied track.
Nextel Cup Series points leader Jeff Gordon was awarded the pole. Denny Hamlin will start second, followed by Matt Kenseth, Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Burton.
"It's unfortunate you can't control Mother Nature, and the rules are what the rules are," Gordon said. "It's hard to be too overjoyed about this pole because I do feel for those guys."
Boris Said and two others were poised to make the race, but steady rain forced NASCAR officials to cancel the qualifying session with 14 cars left to make runs. NASCAR couldn't postpone qualifying much longer because of the Busch Series race scheduled to start later Friday.
Said was sitting on the pole when the rain started, and Dave Blaney, Jeremy Mayfield, Kenny Wallace, Michael Waltrip, Scott Riggs and David Reutimann also were in position to make the 43-car field.
But three of the top seven cars that had completed runs were bumped because NASCAR uses owner points to set the starting grid when qualifying gets canceled.
"Believe me, I would rather we qualify and end up 30th or 35th and let those guys do what they earned than back into a second-place start like we did [Friday]," Hamlin said. "It's really not worth it to me because we know what all those other teams are going through just trying to make these races. You definitely sympathize for them."
The top 35 spots in the field were set using owner points. Brian Vickers will start 36th because he won a race last season. Dale Jarrett and Bill Elliott got the next two spots as past series champions.
The last five spots went to Riggs, Blaney, Paul Menard, David Reutimann and Wallace -- based on owner points and number of qualifying attempts this season.
Ward Burton would have gotten in over Wallace, but he had made one less qualifying attempt this season.
"It is a shame for a lot of those guys," Gordon said.
I've got a friend that traveled to Daytona from Montana. She's not real happy about all the rain. Or the fact that she will have to get up at the crack of dawn to make the Busch race and stay all day into the night for the Cup race.
And, she stepped off the curb going back to the bus and got wet to the knees. LOL Called me, cussing a blue streak.
She wasn't happy when I told her it was probably going rain tomorrow. But she also was happy it was cooler in Florida than it was in Montana.
And, she stepped off the curb going back to the bus and got wet to the knees. LOL Called me, cussing a blue streak.
She wasn't happy when I told her it was probably going rain tomorrow. But she also was happy it was cooler in Florida than it was in Montana.
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Jeff Gordon is on the pole and that has nothing to do with his sexual orientation.........stolen from talladega nights. couldnt resist Why is mark martin starting 9th when he's in 20th in points?
Jeff Gordon is on the pole and that has nothing to do with his sexual orientation.........stolen from talladega nights. couldnt resist Why is mark martin starting 9th when he's in 20th in points?
RACE LINEUP
Pepsi 400 | Daytona International Speedway
July 7, 2007 | Race 18 of 36
RAIN OUT Position Based on Owner Points
POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Pepsi / DuPont N/A N/A N/A
2 11 Denny Hamlin Chevrolet FedEx Kinko's N/A N/A N/A
3 17 Matt Kenseth Ford R+L Carriers / DEWALT N/A N/A N/A
4 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's N/A N/A N/A
5 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility N/A N/A N/A
6 20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet The Home Depot N/A N/A N/A
7 99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot N/A N/A N/A
8 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil N/A N/A N/A
9 01 Mark Martin Chevrolet Principal Financial Group N/A N/A N/A
10 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / NWTF N/A N/A N/A
11 5 Kyle Busch Chevrolet CARQUEST / Kellogg's N/A N/A N/A
12 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Jack Daniel's N/A N/A N/A
13 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser N/A N/A N/A
14 12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL N/A N/A N/A
15 26 Jamie McMurray Ford IRWIN Marathon Saw Blades N/A N/A N/A
16 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite N/A N/A N/A
17 18 J.J. Yeley Chevrolet Interstate Batteries N/A N/A N/A
18 16 Greg Biffle Ford Dish Network N/A N/A N/A
19 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Pillsbury / Cinnabon N/A N/A N/A
20 42 Juan Montoya* Dodge Texaco / Havoline N/A N/A N/A
21 25 Casey Mears Chevrolet National Guard / GMAC N/A N/A N/A
22 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Dodge Dealers / UAW N/A N/A N/A
23 96 Tony Raines Chevrolet DLP HDTV N/A N/A N/A
24 6 David Ragan* Ford AAA Travel N/A N/A N/A
25 7 Robby Gordon Ford Camping World
/ RVs.com N/A N/A N/A
26 40 David Stremme Dodge Coors Light N/A N/A N/A
27 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers / I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry N/A N/A N/A
28 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target N/A N/A N/A
29 14 Sterling Marlin Chevrolet Waste Management N/A N/A N/A
30 66 Jeff Green Chevrolet Haas Automation N/A N/A N/A
31 88 Ricky Rudd Ford M&M's N/A N/A N/A
32 38 David Gilliland Ford M&M's Red, White & Blue N/A N/A N/A
33 13 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Charleston S.C. Fire Dept. N/A N/A N/A
34 45 John Andretti Dodge Tire Kingdom N/A N/A N/A
35 70 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet Haas Automation N/A N/A N/A
36 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull N/A N/A N/A
37 44 Dale Jarrett Toyota UPS N/A N/A N/A
38 21 Bill Elliott Ford U.S. Air Force N/A N/A N/A
39 10 Scott Riggs Dodge Valvoline / Stanley Tools N/A N/A N/A
40 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar N/A N/A N/A
41 15 Paul Menard* Chevrolet Pittsburgh Paints / Menards N/A N/A N/A
42 00 David Reutimann* Toyota Burger King N/A N/A N/A
43 78 Kenny Wallace Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing N/A N/A N/A
Did Not Qualify
44 36 Jeremy Mayfield Toyota 360 OTC - - -
45 84 A.J. Allmendinger* Toyota Red Bull - - -
46 49 Larry Foyt Dodge Paralyzed Veterans of America - - -
47 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts - - -
48 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge Taco Bell - - -
49 4 Ward Burton Chevrolet State Water Heaters - - -
50 160 Boris Said Ford SOBE - No Fear - - -
51 109 Mike Wallace Chevrolet Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts - - -
52 104 Eric McClure Chevrolet Hefty - - -
53 27 Kirk Shelmerdine Chevrolet Batista Grading / Lilly Trucking - - -
+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie
Pepsi 400 | Daytona International Speedway
July 7, 2007 | Race 18 of 36
RAIN OUT Position Based on Owner Points
POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Pepsi / DuPont N/A N/A N/A
2 11 Denny Hamlin Chevrolet FedEx Kinko's N/A N/A N/A
3 17 Matt Kenseth Ford R+L Carriers / DEWALT N/A N/A N/A
4 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's N/A N/A N/A
5 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility N/A N/A N/A
6 20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet The Home Depot N/A N/A N/A
7 99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot N/A N/A N/A
8 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil N/A N/A N/A
9 01 Mark Martin Chevrolet Principal Financial Group N/A N/A N/A
10 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / NWTF N/A N/A N/A
11 5 Kyle Busch Chevrolet CARQUEST / Kellogg's N/A N/A N/A
12 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Jack Daniel's N/A N/A N/A
13 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser N/A N/A N/A
14 12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL N/A N/A N/A
15 26 Jamie McMurray Ford IRWIN Marathon Saw Blades N/A N/A N/A
16 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite N/A N/A N/A
17 18 J.J. Yeley Chevrolet Interstate Batteries N/A N/A N/A
18 16 Greg Biffle Ford Dish Network N/A N/A N/A
19 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Pillsbury / Cinnabon N/A N/A N/A
20 42 Juan Montoya* Dodge Texaco / Havoline N/A N/A N/A
21 25 Casey Mears Chevrolet National Guard / GMAC N/A N/A N/A
22 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Dodge Dealers / UAW N/A N/A N/A
23 96 Tony Raines Chevrolet DLP HDTV N/A N/A N/A
24 6 David Ragan* Ford AAA Travel N/A N/A N/A
25 7 Robby Gordon Ford Camping World
/ RVs.com N/A N/A N/A
26 40 David Stremme Dodge Coors Light N/A N/A N/A
27 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers / I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry N/A N/A N/A
28 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target N/A N/A N/A
29 14 Sterling Marlin Chevrolet Waste Management N/A N/A N/A
30 66 Jeff Green Chevrolet Haas Automation N/A N/A N/A
31 88 Ricky Rudd Ford M&M's N/A N/A N/A
32 38 David Gilliland Ford M&M's Red, White & Blue N/A N/A N/A
33 13 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Charleston S.C. Fire Dept. N/A N/A N/A
34 45 John Andretti Dodge Tire Kingdom N/A N/A N/A
35 70 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet Haas Automation N/A N/A N/A
36 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull N/A N/A N/A
37 44 Dale Jarrett Toyota UPS N/A N/A N/A
38 21 Bill Elliott Ford U.S. Air Force N/A N/A N/A
39 10 Scott Riggs Dodge Valvoline / Stanley Tools N/A N/A N/A
40 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar N/A N/A N/A
41 15 Paul Menard* Chevrolet Pittsburgh Paints / Menards N/A N/A N/A
42 00 David Reutimann* Toyota Burger King N/A N/A N/A
43 78 Kenny Wallace Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing N/A N/A N/A
Did Not Qualify
44 36 Jeremy Mayfield Toyota 360 OTC - - -
45 84 A.J. Allmendinger* Toyota Red Bull - - -
46 49 Larry Foyt Dodge Paralyzed Veterans of America - - -
47 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts - - -
48 37 Kevin Lepage Dodge Taco Bell - - -
49 4 Ward Burton Chevrolet State Water Heaters - - -
50 160 Boris Said Ford SOBE - No Fear - - -
51 109 Mike Wallace Chevrolet Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts - - -
52 104 Eric McClure Chevrolet Hefty - - -
53 27 Kirk Shelmerdine Chevrolet Batista Grading / Lilly Trucking - - -
+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie
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Man that sucks for Boris Said cause he's had a fast car there the past two seasons so I know he would've made the show had they qualified. Mikey was just starting to get into his groove. That'll suck if it rains all day tomorrow. I thinki what they need to do is first light in the morning roll the cars out & alert the fans somehow that they're gonna start right the Busch race away depending on the weather. At 8am instead of 9. Then if they get it in before it rains then they need to go ahead & roll the Cup cars out. No sense waiting till 6 or 7pm if it's just gonna start raining.
you know what? Boris needs to hire shrub, get kellogs to follow him, that way that 60 car has some owner points, then boris can stick kyle in a non points car for the races he wants to be in. Boris is a owner/driver anyways.
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nascarfan01
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Jeff had the fastest car all race long in that race. Jeff PASSED the "other" Gordon and was bumped out of the lead at the first turn after passing him.
It was obvious to all viewers it was intentional.. As the "other" Gordon had the slower car.
Betsy
And we All know Jeff G. would never bump anyone
. If it would have been the other way around Jeff would have run Robbie into the wall, and i dare you to say he wouldnt.
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
They line up in owner points
1 24 Hendrick Motorsports 2613 17 17
2 11 Joe Gibbs Racing 2457 17 17
3 17 Roush Fenway Racing 2248 17 17
4 48 Hendrick Motorsports 2232 17 17
5 31 Richard Childress Racing 2230 17 17
6 20 Joe Gibbs Racing 2185 17 17
7 99 Roush Fenway Racing 2148 17 17
8 29 Richard Childress Racing 2106 17 17
9 01 Ginn Racing 2071 17 17
10 1 Dale Earnhardt Inc.
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RobbyG Fan
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Jeff had the fastest car all race long in that race. Jeff PASSED the "other" Gordon and was bumped out of the lead at the first turn after passing him.
It was obvious to all viewers it was intentional.. As the "other" Gordon had the slower car.
Betsy
LOL, your pathetic to hold a grudge from 6 years ago...
By the way, the way you describe that incident, it sounds an awful lot like what Jeff Gordon EXACTLY DID to Rusty Wallace at Bristol a few years back.
Pot meet kettle.
And if the other Gordon had the slower car all along, why did he catch up to Jeff in the first place?
Betsy
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And we All know Jeff G. would never bump anyone
Sure if a slower car was giving him a ton of pain he would "wake em up" ..
But when an obviously faster passes him? NEVER!
Betsy
Betsy
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LOL, your pathetic to hold a grudge from 6 years ago...
By the way, the way you describe that incident, it sounds an awful lot like what Jeff Gordon EXACTLY DID to Rusty Wallace at Bristol a few years back.
Pot meet kettle.
And if the other Gordon had the slower car all along, why did he catch up to Jeff in the first place?
He caught up with JEFFY in the sss'es and used JEFFEY"S car to brake himself and to knock Jeffy out of the race.
Betsy
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nascarfan01
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He caught up with JEFFY in the sss'es and used JEFFEY"S car to brake himself and to knock Jeffy out of the race.
Betsy
So? Go Robbie!
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carsntunes
Guest
The biggest, suckiest problem with the rainout is the the top seven qualifers at that time were out of the top 35 in points. The rest of the qualifers that needed to get in on speed really didn't have a chance. It was just disheartening. I was fortunate enough to be there with some free Valvoline suite tickets and stayed dry until time to leave.
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RobbyG Fan
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Sure if a slower car was giving him a ton of pain he would "wake em up" ..
But when an obviously faster passes him? NEVER!
Betsy
Jeff Gordon has spun so many people for wins its not even funny. Just with Rusty alone Jeff has spun him about 3 times on last laps. And they weren't even in the act of passing or as an attempt to pass, they were blatant spin outs.
Please.
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He caught up with JEFFY in the sss'es and used JEFFEY"S car to brake himself and to knock Jeffy out of the race.
Betsy
Caught up with Jeff on the sss'es?
That just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. The race was at New Hampshire. No sss'es at New Hampshire.
Robby had the faster car and was passing. When Robby bumped Jeff Jeff moved up the track and tangled with the lapped car. After the incident Jeff was still in like 4th place with 10 laps left and no damage.
Jeff TOOK HIMSELF out of the race when he hit Robby's car during the caution and received a black flag.
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nascarfan01
Guest
Classic Jeff Gordon fan...dont even know what damn track the race is on...
Betsy
Team Owner
Well I think I know! The turn in question is on a straight where the CONES were blocking the straight and there is (was) a turn on the righthand side of the straight that was seemingly installed to keep the speeds down. Jeffy passed the "other" Gordon on the straight before the turn and he got DUMPED in that turn..
Betsy
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RobbyG Fan
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Wrong.
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RobbyG Fan
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Sure if a slower car was giving him a ton of pain he would "wake em up" ..
But when an obviously faster passes him? NEVER!
Betsy
LOL, they just showed Jeff Gordon spinning Matt Kenseth on the last lap intentionally for the win last year at Chicagoland.
Betsy = OWNED!
LOL, they just showed Jeff Gordon spinning Matt Kenseth on the last lap intentionally for the win last year at Chicagoland.
Betsy = OWNED!
It was an accident.
kelloggs5TLfan
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Intentional. Even the announcers mentioned it was completely blatant.
Betsy
Team Owner
I didn't see it I was out f the house... But if the slower car in front is BLOCKING the faster car behind him...what do you expect to happen on the last lap?
Betsy
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Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
Put down the crack pipe and take 2 steps back.
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The announcers, was it Petty?, mentioned that Matt is one of the best blockers in the business while appearing not to be blocking.
Not that that has anything to do with the gentle baby soft oopsie that Jeff gave him last year.
Not that that has anything to do with the gentle baby soft oopsie that Jeff gave him last year.
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