Rate The Dega Race

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Rate the Dega race on a scale of 1 to 10. I will give it a 2 and only due to the finish where DJ took the checkered. Other than that they should bulldoze Talladega and rebuild the track.
 
8. Even after all the hacks caused big wrecks we ended up with a hell of a race between the four or five best cars on the track. Too bad Martin, Sadler, and Biffle never had their shot at the checkers.
 
I'll give the race a 9! I know that it seems that most of you hate these races, but I love them. You can do what Mark Martin suggested, but they can find plenty of people to fill those stands if you don't buy any...as it seems that you didn't anyway since you were posting here.

Maybe I'll give it a ten since JJ pretty much did his usual thing.
 
All in all it was a good race.
J.J. sucked. Wrecked everybody and blamed evverybody but himself. (All involved should get one shot at his pathetic butt!)
A great driver won. Well-deserved.
Talladega is a great track, they just need to take the plates off. Sure, Allison got in the catch fence in '86, but don't take away the racing at such a great track by making 230 mph cars run 185 (like Mark said).
I'd give it an 8, because D.J. won.
 
BobbyFord said:
All in all it was a good race.
J.J. sucked. Wrecked everybody and blamed evverybody but himself. (All involved should get one shot at his pathetic butt!)
A great driver won. Well-deserved.
Talladega is a great track, they just need to take the plates off. Sure, Allison got in the catch fence in '86, but don't take away the racing at such a great track by making 230 mph cars run 185 (like Mark said).
I'd give it an 8, because D.J. won.
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If anything Allison hitting the fence proved that the catch fence does its job. Build a higher fence and take the plates off and there shouldn't be any worries.
 
Xtreme Rebel said:
If anything Allison hitting the fence proved that the catch fence does its job. Build a higher fence and take the plates off and there shouldn't be any worries.
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Yup.
 
9, would give it a 10 if they let them race to the line, don't see why they had to bring out that caution.
 
7

...I'm disliking plate racing more and more every season. Jimmie screwed the pooch. Bottom-line, ala Martin's quote, if there were no plates, and less emphasis put on aero chances are they would have been so far apart- all over the track- the wreck wouldn't have happened, or if Jimmie wobbled (as usual, yet this time without the help of Junior shoving a car into the mix) as he tends to do evidently, not as many cars would have been involved, thus everyone being better off.

- k y l e
before you pop off saying 'it was Jimmie's fault last time!' read the sentence again- Jimmie wobbled, his fault are we clear?
 
7. Great racing when there was racing. Plates suck and the fact that JJ won may only be becasue too many good drivers in good cars, were wrecked due to someones enability to control their car 2 times on the track.
 
...And no "Big One"... there was definately more then just one.
 
...Oh, almost forgot. Kyle P. finished the race in almost one piece.
 
How can anyone rate a race when there was no race ????

If you want to rate this event for anything, rate it for entertainment value, but do not call it a race.
 
Whizzer said:
How can anyone rate a race when there was no race ????

If you want to rate this event for anything, rate it for entertainment value, but do not call it a race.
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No race?!?! Not sure what you were watching Whiz, but it was a heck of a race; especially at the end. Most exciting finish to a race all year. Nothing beats guys going three wide down the backstretch for the lead(or win as it happens). If you hate contact so much go watch some Formula 1 and leave the rest of us fans alone.
 
Xtreme Rebel said:
No race?!?! Not sure what you were watching Whiz, but it was a heck of a race; especially at the end. Most exciting finish to a race all year. Nothing beats guys going three wide down the backstretch for the lead(or win as it happens). If you hate contact so much go watch some Formula 1 and leave the rest of us fans alone.
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The comment was the event at Talledega was entertainment.
NASCAR has races at Martinsville, Bristol, Richmond, Sonoma, Texas, Atlanta, Charlotte, Watkins Glen, Kansas, Chicago, Homestead, Loudon, Darlington, Pocono, Fontana, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Jackson, Dover, and Indianapolis.
They have entertainment, advertised as a race, at Talledega and Daytona.

Since it was specifically noted about the contact, what about the drivers who dislike participating and are vocal in thier negative opinions of the events staged at Talledega and Daytona, expressing explicit and constant concerns about the wrecks ???
Should they take your suggestion about Formula 1, and leave "the rest of us fans alone" ???? Just curious.
 
Xtreme Rebel said:
Dega and Daytona are as much racing as Bristol.
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And I suppose you believe in the Tooth Fairy?

Plate racing is a mockery and something needs to be done. JMO

I give it a 2
 
kat2220 said:
And I suppose you believe in the Tooth Fairy?

Plate racing is a mockery and something needs to be done. JMO

I give it a 2
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I guess you missed the end of the race then? GUys going four wide for the win is always good racing, no matter how weird the path to get there is.
 
Jimmie Johnson the fraud of an actual racer ruined the show, plain and simple.

I give it a 3.
 
Whizzer said:
How can anyone rate a race when there was no race ????

If you want to rate this event for anything, rate it for entertainment value, but do not call it a race.
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EXACTLY. Racing isn't hoping you happen to be in the right lane at the right time. Sorry, XR this wasn't a race, but a show, like Whizzer said. You must enjoy watching those cop chase shows with all the high speed crashes, too. I personally like to see drivers and crews EARN points on the track with hard work and the right combination. I also prefer to see one or two drivers cream the competion because they did hit the right setup. To many, this is "boring", to me it is "racing".
 
muggle not said:
I will give it a 2 and only due to the finish where DJ took the checkered.
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i agreed!

right after the second big wreck i just quit watchin the race, just like that all the good drivers were taken out.

yesterday it was like a complete race for rookies and whatnot..no fun at all
 
Whiz, the last I saw, nobody was holding a gun to these guys heads making them race at these tracks. Let 'em sit out and I'll still see the race I want. Hey, the threatened to boycott this race before but chickened out. And, as said by someone else, you don't have to watch these races either, but it seems that something is drawing you and all the others who abhor these races to watch.

This reminds me so much of the grumbling that went on and still does to this day about the "chase" points change. I've heard so many disgruntled fans say that they are tired of what NASCAR is doing and threatens to stop watching it, but just like so many of those Holywood libs who say that if a Republican gets into the White House, they'll leave the country. Doesn't happen. I haven't like the direction that NASCAR has been going for well over 10 years, but no matter what I think, it's going there and it's the only game in town that I care to watch. Griping to other fans won't make a difference and I suggest that if you really think that you can change things, put your effort in the direction that can make a difference...tell Daytona. If, as Mark Martin suggests, the fans can make a difference, changes will come, but if you ask me, they're going to look at it and say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. They are making millions from fans putting on this race, whether it's entertainment or not. And by the way, unless you are a participant, all sports are for entertainment purposes and that's how they make their money. As far as I'm concerned, if a race isn't entertaining, it sucks.
 
buckaroo said:
Whiz, the last I saw, nobody was holding a gun to these guys heads making them race at these tracks. Let 'em sit out and I'll still see the race I want. Hey, the threatened to boycott this race before but chickened out. And, as said by someone else, you don't have to watch these races either, but it seems that something is drawing you and all the others who abhor these races to watch.

This reminds me so much of the grumbling that went on and still does to this day about the "chase" points change. I've heard so many disgruntled fans say that they are tired of what NASCAR is doing and threatens to stop watching it, but just like so many of those Holywood libs who say that if a Republican gets into the White House, they'll leave the country. Doesn't happen. I haven't like the direction that NASCAR has been going for well over 10 years, but no matter what I think, it's going there and it's the only game in town that I care to watch. Griping to other fans won't make a difference and I suggest that if you really think that you can change things, put your effort in the direction that can make a difference...tell Daytona. If, as Mark Martin suggests, the fans can make a difference, changes will come, but if you ask me, they're going to look at it and say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. They are making millions from fans putting on this race, whether it's entertainment or not. And by the way, unless you are a participant, all sports are for entertainment purposes and that's how they make their money. As far as I'm concerned, if a race isn't entertaining, it sucks.
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And no matter what you say, we are still going to "rate the race". :D
 
On a scale of 1 to 10, I give the race a 9 ... teen! First of all, DJ won! Secondly, a blue oval finally breaks the string at a plate race! And thirdly
BECAUSE I WAS THERE!!! First of my 7 races that a Ford won. That was my only wish going in. I didn't expect DJ to have a chance. What can I say ... I was wrong!
 
Wouldn't GOD being at the track make it a big fat 10? :)

I thought it was a pretty good race.The fact that my driver didn't win doesn't really make a difference. What are people doing....waiting for the last lap to decide how good the race was?
 
Ok i gotta sound off 1 more time on this whole plate stuff......until another death occurs we will have this mockery as some of you call it. Nascar is making too much $$$ on these plate races at the racers expense. Until they stand up for themselves as an unified voice there will still be Plate racing.
 
Patrick9999 said:
The fact that my driver didn't win doesn't really make a difference.
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Maybe not, but I bet it would if your driver did win. Sorry, it's been 98 races since mine did.
 
GoDJ said:
Maybe not, but I bet it would if your driver did win. Sorry, it's been 98 races since mine did.
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"touche` poosycat


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- k y l e
 
shadowflames said:
i agreed!

right after the second big wreck i just quit watchin the race, just like that all the good drivers were taken out.

yesterday it was like a complete race for rookies and whatnot..no fun at all
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Dale Jarrett is a "whatnot"
I give it a 9. As far as the "Big One". Talledega has been the home of the "bigOne" with or without restrictor plates.
 
buckaroo said:
Whiz, the last I saw, nobody was holding a gun to these guys heads making them race at these tracks. And, as said by someone else, you don't have to watch these races either, but it seems that something is drawing you and all the others who abhor these races to watch.
I haven't like the direction that NASCAR has been going for well over 10 years, but no matter what I think, it's going there and it's the only game in town that I care to watch. Griping to other fans won't make a difference and I suggest that if you really think that you can change things, put your effort in the direction that can make a difference...tell Daytona. As far as I'm concerned, if a race isn't entertaining, it sucks.
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Buckaroo, you are right !!! No one is holding a gun to the heads of the drivers. But that doesn't mean they have to like it and perhaps if enough of them complain to NASCAR, something might get done.
Ridiculous isn't it ???? Participating in an event knowing there is a sixty percent chance of getting wiped out in a wreck ???? Money does strange things to people.

As for watching the event at Talledega, a person need not watch to form an opinion. There are replays of the event and "the big one", numerous times on nearly every sport, NASCAR related and news cast channel. Some replays in are even in slow motion !!!!
It seems the more wrecks the greater the number of viewers. Why is it an event receives a higher rating and greater accolades when there has been a wreck filled extravaganza ??????? People say they don't go to races to see wrecks but wreck filled events are the most popular. Why is that ?????

And Buckaroo, don't patronize me by suggesting I contact Daytona.
That has been done several times in the past.

I have enjoyed racing since 1948. Especially good hard nosed racing. Not events where half the field might get wiped out by one miscue or blown tire as happens more often than not at Talledega and Daytona.

Granted, racing is a form of entertainment and not everyone agrees on what is racing and what is entertainment.
 
Whiz, one of the things that I truely enjoy are banters from the likes of guys like you. I'd love to say that I've been a fan of NASCAR since '48, but I was born that year and I don't think that I really crapped in my diapers because so and so didn't win. However, saying that, my father did own a car (Hudson Teraplane) back in those days and his driver one year was none other than Jimmie Mears. (How do you like that name drop? :) ) I know that people like you have been fans of the sport for at least as many years as I have been and because I've been in contact with the like of you and others, I know just how you feel about this type of racing. Hell, I am really on your side, but it's like General Honere say's, "Don't get stuck on stupid." Maybe I should just skip these arguments that I've been over before, but it reminds me of some of my fellow Vietnam vets that just can't let it go. You are right of course, talking to Daytona won't do a bit of good for you or for me. I've come to the understanding that this sport has grown despite of what I want and is moving forward, regardless of what I want. Therefore, I've learned that if I want to save my sanity, I have to know what I can change, learn to live with what I can't, and thank the gods for what I've got. One thing that I've learned is that Taladega and Daytona aren't going to change soon.
 
They won't change soon because there is too much power in the hands of management.
 
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