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Rate the race........and a thanks to Kat for doing the rate it while I was on vacation.
 
You were gone? :) I couldn't help myself. I'll give the race a solid 8. It had plenty of excitement.
 
What race? I saw a bunch of rain and now it's dark now.
I'll give it a 3.
I suppose congrats are in order for the Biff but I was hoping Clint would take it.
You're welcome Mug.
 
I will give it a 5. I think they should have done the Green, White, Checker. Then Biffle is out of gas. Man why don't they just figure out a way to give it to him.
 
I find this race difficult to rate. Howewver, I will give it a 7.5. I thought there should have been a GWC...............and what about Biffle not able to take it across the finish line under its own power.

Flipper kinda took it on the nose in points, as well as a bunch of others.
 
muggle not said:
I find this race difficult to rate. Howewver, I will give it a 7.5. I thought there should have been a GWC...............and what about Biffle not able to take it across the finish line under its own power.

Flipper kinda took it on the nose in points, as well as a bunch of others.
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Who's Flipper?
 
tkj24 said:
Who's Flipper?
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LOL......Carl Edwards. :)

I hear that Johnson plans on filing a protest. Biffle was unable to maintain pace car speed..........remember Johnson once lost 2 positions for the same thing.
 
Was it Bowyer or Johnson that said what were they supposed to do wait on him?
 
tkj24 said:
Was it Bowyer or Johnson that said what were they supposed to do wait on him?
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Johnson.

That was wacky.

IF Biffle's win is legitamate, than NASCAR DELIBERATELY screwed Robby at Montreal, and should credit Robby with that win.
 
Oh yeah!

muggle not said:
LOL......Carl Edwards. :)

I hear that Johnson plans on filing a protest. Biffle was unable to maintain pace car speed..........remember Johnson once lost 2 positions for the same thing.
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And I remember when an old guy in the 6 car pulled into the pits to celebrate his victory a lap too early... They didn't give him the win...

It was palin for all to see he couldn't possibley have finished at race speed with the gasoline he had in the car.. The race should be rescored.
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
Betsy said:
And I remember when an old guy in the 6 car pulled into the pits to celebrate his victory a lap too early... They didn't give him the win...

It was palin for all to see he couldn't possibley have finished at race speed with the gasoline he had in the car.. The race should be rescored.
Betsy:rolleyes:
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I REMEMBER THAT! :XXROFL:

When he won in Atlanta that year, he joked to MRN: "I ran another lap to make up for Bristol."

1994, one of the best seasons ever in racing!
 
muggle not said:
betsy and andy....are you going to give it a rating :) :)
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I was down in MIR for the first half watching the fastest organized drag races IN WORLD HISTORY (See my thread "IHRA at MIR").

Saw the final 60 laps or whatever, I say 10. :D
 
From my perspective I give it a 10++++. Being out amongst the crowd in front of the stage for driver intros, on pit road during the national anthem, to being underneath the #29's tent on pit road trying to stay dry and not get struck by lightning it was an experience that I will not soon forget. Fun stuff.
 
Ok I'll give it a number..

Good hard racing.. Lots of fast cars coming from the back... A hot slick track followed by a clean, cool fast track.. And the ESPN2 part of the race being commercial free... About a 9.5 for my rating.
Betsy:D
 
a 8 for Clint getting a fuel mileage and luck win. A 2 at NASCAR's inconsistency and scoring systems.
 
N2racin44 said:
From my perspective I give it a 10++++. Being out amongst the crowd in front of the stage for driver intros, on pit road during the national anthem, to being underneath the #29's tent on pit road trying to stay dry and not get struck by lightning it was an experience that I will not soon forget. Fun stuff.
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I'll second that, Biff won nuff said, it's just like jimmie and jeff to whine.
 
The race was too screwed up to rate...maybe a 5.
Everybody (the chevy guys) need to get off of Biff about not being under power at the finish...
Last year Tony coasted across the finish line, out of gas for the win, nobody (the chevy guys, again) complained about it then...
 
BobbyFord said:
The race was too screwed up to rate...maybe a 5.
Everybody (the chevy guys) need to get off of Biff about not being under power at the finish...
Last year Tony coasted across the finish line, out of gas for the win, nobody (the chevy guys, again) complained about it then...
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Tony crossed the finish line BEFORE everyone else did. Not this time. But.....since the field was "frozen" for the caution, I guess it didn't matter if Biffle crossed the finish line dead last he would have won. And, I don't see it as whining from Jimmie or Clint. I see it as questioning Nascar about one of their own rules. You must finish the last lap under power and without help from anyone across the finish line.
 
majestyx said:
Tony crossed the finish line BEFORE everyone else did. Not this time. But.....since the field was "frozen" for the caution, I guess it didn't matter if Biffle crossed the finish line dead last he would have won. And, I don't see it as whining from Jimmie or Clint. I see it as questioning Nascar about one of their own rules. You must finish the last lap under power and without help from anyone across the finish line.
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Under yellow, you cannot pass the leader unless he stops.
 
Oh, and I'll rate the race an 8, and the fact that Jimmie came from 43rd to 3rd a 10++++++. Too bad there wasn't a green/white/checker. :D
 
majestyx said:
And, under yellow you must maintain pace car speed. :p
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RESULTS
2007 Unofficial Race Results : LifeLock 400
LifeLock 400 | September 30, 2007 | Race 29 of 36


FIN ST CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR PTS/BNS LAPS STATUS
1 7 16 Greg Biffle Ford Aflac 190/5 210 Running
2 10 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Jack Daniel's 175/5 210 Running
3 1 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 170/5 210 Running
4 16 25 Casey Mears Chevrolet National Guard / GMAC 160/0 210 Running
5 4 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 160/5 210 Running
6 17 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil 155/5 210 Running
7 14 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target / Lysol 146/0 210 Running
8 15 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Dodge Dealers / UAW 142/0 210 Running
9 29 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers / UAW 138/0 210 Running
10 6 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser 134/0 210 Running
11 12 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 140/10 210 Running
12 39 01 Mark Martin Chevrolet U.S. Army 127/0 210 Running
13 3 10 Scott Riggs Dodge Valvoline / Stanley Tools 124/0 209 Running
14 31 18 J.J. Yeley Chevrolet Interstate Batteries 121/0 209 Running
15 43 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar 123/5 209 Running
16 18 6 David Ragan * Ford AAA Insurance 115/0 209 Running
17 36 40 David Stremme Dodge Energizer e2 Lithium 112/0 209 Running
18 40 96 Tony Raines Chevrolet DLP HDTV 109/0 209 Running
19 41 7 Robby Gordon Ford Camping World / Winegard 106/0 209 Running
20 37 66 Jeff Green Chevrolet Garmin / Best Buy 103/0 209 Running
21 33 45 Kyle Petty Dodge Wells Fargo 105/5 209 Running
22 26 36 Jeremy Mayfield Toyota 360 OTC 97/0 209 Running
23 30 70 Johnny Sauter Chevrolet Yellow Trans. 94/0 209 Running
24 20 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal 91/0 209 Running
25 24 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing 88/0 209 Running
26 13 44 Dale Jarrett Toyota UPS 85/0 209 Running
27 23 15 Paul Menard * Chevrolet Johns Manville / Menards 82/0 209 Running
28 21 42 Juan Montoya * Dodge Texaco / Havoline 79/0 209 Running
29 5 11 Denny Hamlin Chevrolet FedEx Freight 76/0 208 Running
30 11 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts 73/0 208 Running
31 25 00 David Reutimann * Toyota Dominos.com 70/0 208 Running
32 35 21 Ken Schrader Ford Little Debbie 67/0 208 Running
33 28 49 John Andretti Dodge LifeLock 64/0 208 Running
34 22 38 David Gilliland Ford M&M's 61/0 206 Running
35 2 17 Matt Kenseth Ford DEWALT 63/5 206 Running
36 34 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility 55/0 198 Running
37 27 99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot 52/0 181 Running
38 9 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 54/5 175 Running
39 19 20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Ryobi Lithium / Home Depot 51/5 174 Out of Race
40 38 88 Kenny Wallace Ford Snickers 43/0 170 Running
41 8 5 Kyle Busch Chevrolet CARQUEST / Kellogg's 40/0 163 Running
42 32 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios / Betty Crocker 37/0 155 Out of Race
43 42 12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL 34/0 108 Out of Race

* Denotes Rookie
 
Okay. So you have posted this what? Three times???


I'm just yanking your chain!!! :rolleyes: I really understood who won the race right as the race ended, so you don't have to be quite so defensive.
 
Stewart Wasn't under power when he crossed the finish line but was ahead of the rest of the field - obviously, or he wouldn't have won.

Biffle wasn't under power nor mantaining pace car speed when he was passed after the field was frozen. IF Biffle's win is allowed to stand, those who passed him should be penalized.

Jeff Gordon was interviewed on speed and all I caught of it before I could get the remote to change the cahnnel was him saying he wanted Biffle to win due to points.

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Patrick9999 said:
Stewart Wasn't under power when he crossed the finish line but was ahead of the rest of the field - obviously, or he wouldn't have won.

Biffle wasn't under power nor mantaining pace car speed when he was passed after the field was frozen. IF Biffle's win is allowed to stand, those who passed him should be penalized.

Jeff Gordon was interviewed on speed and all I caught of it before I could get the remote to change the cahnnel was him saying he wanted Biffle to win due to points.

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Bingo.

I agree with Jimmie on this though. They set the precedent at Montreal when the penalty went to Robby Gordon for not maintaining pace speed instead of Marcos Ambrose for wrecking Robby under caution. :idunno:
 
I give it an 8 until those last two laps and then just a 5.

Biff must have been out of gas, no burnouts or driving to VL :confused:
 
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