Red Flag Question

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ClintBowser15

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Where did the "No working on cars during a Red Flag" rule come from?
 
I was under the impression that that was always the rule.
 
I think (this is my educated guess) because red flags are because of serious events (major crashes, damage to the track, etc.) and would require maybe the attention of more NASCAR officials than would be able to watch all the teams work on the car.
 
It's because the session has been halted. All aspects of the session, including working on the racecars, are halted.
Do a Wikipedia search for racing flags.
From Jayski's:
The Red Flag? What a team/driver can do to a car during a red flag
Rule 10-5 of the 2013 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series rulebook preventing any repairs on a car during a red flag: Red Flag - The red flag means that the race must be stopped immediately regardless of the position of the cars on the track. The red flag shall be used if, in the opinion of NASCAR Officials, the race should be stopped. Cars should be brought to a stop in an area designated by NASCAR Officials. Repairs or service of any nature or refueling will not be permitted when the race is halted due to a red flag. All work must stop on any car in the pits and/or garage area when the red flag is displayed, unless the car has withdrawn from the Event. Work cannot be resumed until the red flag is withdrawn (race is restarted).
 
BobbyFord said:
It's because the session has been halted. All aspects of the session, including working on the racecars, are halted.
Do a Wikipedia search for racing flags.
From Jayski's:
The Red Flag? What a team/driver can do to a car during a red flag
Rule 10-5 of the 2013 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series rulebook preventing any repairs on a car during a red flag: Red Flag - The red flag means that the race must be stopped immediately regardless of the position of the cars on the track. The red flag shall be used if, in the opinion of NASCAR Officials, the race should be stopped. Cars should be brought to a stop in an area designated by NASCAR Officials. Repairs or service of any nature or refueling will not be permitted when the race is halted due to a red flag. All work must stop on any car in the pits and/or garage area when the red flag is displayed, unless the car has withdrawn from the Event. Work cannot be resumed until the red flag is withdrawn (race is restarted).
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Unless a TV cable breaks. Then the session will be unhalted for the cars damaged only and Marcos Ambrose will have to make up three laps at 20 mph.
 
KevinWI said:
Unless a TV cable breaks. Then the session will be unhalted for the cars damaged only and Marcos Ambrose will have to make up three laps at 20 mph.
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Saw a race stopped twenty years ago for Dale Sr to be given a lap back . No big deal. Nascar trying to be fair .
 
ted@economy said:
Saw a race stopped twenty years ago for Dale Sr to be given a lap back . No big deal. Nascar trying to be fair .
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No ted, we've been through all of this, nascar has never done this before with any other driver when their car or truck was damaged by outside incidents, they always just said suck it up and race, kybu was given a big break by nascar and In My Opinion it was a big mistake to change the rules just this one time and nascar lost a lot of credibility with a great deal of people.
 
BobbyFord said:
It's because the session has been halted. All aspects of the session, including working on the racecars, are halted.
Do a Wikipedia search for racing flags.
From Jayski's:
The Red Flag? What a team/driver can do to a car during a red flag
Rule 10-5 of the 2013 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series rulebook preventing any repairs on a car during a red flag: Red Flag - The red flag means that the race must be stopped immediately regardless of the position of the cars on the track. The red flag shall be used if, in the opinion of NASCAR Officials, the race should be stopped. Cars should be brought to a stop in an area designated by NASCAR Officials. Repairs or service of any nature or refueling will not be permitted when the race is halted due to a red flag. All work must stop on any car in the pits and/or garage area when the red flag is displayed, unless the car has withdrawn from the Event. Work cannot be resumed until the red flag is withdrawn (race is restarted).
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^this

Simply put, the red flag means that the race, and everything related to the performance of the participants, has been halted.

Sterling Marlin's infraction towards the end of the 2002 Daytona 500 is an excellent example of what not to do.
 
I would have loved to be a fly on a the wall for that exchange between the official and Sterling. :D Sterling was a good driver with some good years but I don't think he was the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
I can't find it anywhere, but it seems like someone (DW maybe?) changed an engine during a red flag way, way back, and then came back to win the race. I think that's what precipitated the rule.
 
VaDirt said:
I can't find it anywhere, but it seems like someone (DW maybe?) changed an engine during a red flag way, way back, and then came back to win the race. I think that's what precipitated the rule.
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Maybe someone started handing out cookies and the officials didnt get any.
 
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