Renshaw's Busch career in doubt after accident

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October 10, 2002
9:08 PM EDT (0108 GMT)

Younger racer slated for full Busch schedule in 2003

CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- Deborah Renshaw's racing career was on a fast track, pushed along by attention received when other drivers protested against her in a midsummer race.

Now it's taken a terrible turn, one that could halt her career.

Renshaw, set to move up to NASCAR's Busch series next season, was practicing for an ARCA series race at Lowe's Motor Speedway on Wednesday when she broad-sided the disabled car of Eric Martin, instantly killing the 33-year-old driver.

She also was injured in the accident. Renshaw was in fair condition Thursday after undergoing surgery at a Charlotte hospital for multiple fractures in her left foot and ankle.

The accident has raised a flurry of questions, many of them directed at the 25-year-old Renshaw.

Witnesses have said Martin wrecked at least 15 seconds before Renshaw hit him, leading some to wonder if her spotter was aware of the wreck ahead, if Renshaw saw Martin's car, and if she was qualified to be racing on Lowe's 11/2-mile oval.

"With the communication we have right now, it's pretty incredible that something like this can happen," track president H.A. "Humpy" Wheeler said Thursday. "You just don't know what the spotter saw, what she saw, how this could have happened."

Renshaw and car owner Bob Schacht, also her spotter, have been unavailable for comment since the accident.

Martin spun out exiting the fourth turn and the back of his car hit the outside wall. As his car idled on the track, the front pointing down the banking, Renshaw came through the turn going at least 160 mph and plowed into Martin's car on the driver's side.

Because witness accounts estimated Renshaw hit him 15 seconds after his wreck -- Martin had radioed his crew "I'm all right" after hitting the wall -- it's believed Renshaw probably was exiting the second turn on the backstretch when Martin hit the wall.

"It takes about 30 seconds to run a lap here, so she was probably a half-lap away when he first wrecked," said Winston Cup driver Bobby Labonte. "That's a good distance, and a long time not to know what's up ahead."

Spotters are not required to climb onto the grandstand roof during practice to help a driver navigate the track. Instead, the spotters watch from the top of the haulers inside the infield, leaving them several blind spots. Schacht was on top of the team's hauler, but it's not clear how much of the track he could see.

"When we spot from the trucks, you can't see anything from our location in turns 1 and 2," said Doug Randolph, crew chief for Jimmy Spencer in the Winston Cup series.

Most Winston Cup teams place a spotter on the roof anytime their car is on the track, but crew chiefs still watch over practice from the top of their trucks.

"We've got a spotter up every single time I am on the track, but some teams don't and in ARCA, sometimes the spotter has a lot of other duties to take care of and can't go up on the roof," said Dale Jarrett, whose son Jason races in the ARCA series. "I think it's got to be mandatory that spotters are working from the roofs."

Others wonder if Renshaw was ready to be racing at Lowe's.

She first gained attention in July when fellow drivers plotted to ruin her Late Model Series title chances at Nashville's Fairgrounds Speedway. They pooled their money, had a driver intentionally finish behind her during a race and paid for him to protest her finish.

She was disqualified when her car failed inspection. But the protest led to a ton of attention and caught the eye of Rick Goodwin, who planned to put Renshaw in a Busch series car next season.

So she'd been readying herself by competing in ARCA races _ which use Winston Cup-style stock cars and travel 60-80 mph faster than the Late Model cars she was used to driving.

"That's a big jump in speed," driver Ricky Rudd said. "Who's to say if someone can handle that? Who's to say if someone knows how that speed relates on the race track when you're closing in on another car?"

But Renshaw had a successful run at Talladega Superspeedway last weekend -- finishing 11th in the ARCA race on the 2.66-mile track.

ARCA president Ron Drager said the series evaluates the racing background of any driver who wants to participate.

"If the level the driver is approved to compete at falls short of where the driver wants to race ... we would then set up a list of things that would have to be accomplished to become approved to race at Lowe's," Drager said.

(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
 
Deb must feel terrible right now, and Nascar NEEDS to do something to improve spotter positions as well as communication.
Spotters need to be able to see the whole track, so make a new damn rule!!!
 
I was kind of surprised to hear Ricky Rudd openly questioning her ability to compete at that level. Wouldn't have expected that from him.

But do you think there's any truth to it? I don't know enough about Renshaw to make that determination.
 
Originally posted by abooja
I was kind of surprised to hear Ricky Rudd openly questioning her ability to compete at that level. Wouldn't have expected that from him.

But do you think there's any truth to it? I don't know enough about Renshaw to make that determination.
From what I've read, she started her racing career in 1999.
 
It is too bad for her. I really hope it doesn't ruin her career. They have to learn somewhere. I'm sure Rudd has made at least one mistake when he started.
 
:D Not bashing Rudd. But he couldn't even make a choice on reather to race or retire. Stay with Yates or leave. Go with Ganassi, RCR, or Wood bro. So he should make comments about Renshaw.
 
Where did it mention Ricky was questioning Renshaw's abilities?? The statement seemed to be rather generalized to me--including "anyone". Commented it was a big jump in speed. I didn't see where he said "she" in any of it. I did notice Bobby said "she" as in it was a good distance not to know something was up there. Just wondering?
 
Originally posted by trish
is not a NASCAR sponsored series.

Trish......relax.....I am amazed at what passes for "fact" on racing message boards.

Best wierd stuff I've read since this Miller's death are all the great ideas everybody has about how to make racing safer. From soft walls to air bags.

The most interesting comments tho seem to center around the experience factor. If ya don't race in a series that goes 160 to 200 mph, how ya ever gonna get the experience? Everybody has to start somewhere.

My best guess is that the spotter missed the call due to a blind spot from his spotting position, that Deb was coming round the corner at full speed concentrating on keeping her line, with her line of sight centered to the short low side of the track and doing the natural slide up the track on exit. Just as she is coming out of the corner, her line of site moves up a bit to take in the straightaway, and there's a car less than 200 or so feet away.

Traveling at close to 280 ft per second, there was simply not a dern thing she could do. God Rest Eric's soul. And God Bless Deborah.....that's racin'
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Death always brings a lot of questions,she should get back in the car,and learn from any mistake.;)
 
The argument will go on for awhile. I really would like to see her move up to Busch, but she is going to be questioned the entire time. I hope she can persevere through this. The whole situation is a tragedy but no one in this entire situation should be held back from their career.
 
Ya know how racers really are pbunch?

It would not surprise me in the least to see some of the guys from Miller's crew lend a hand to get Deb back in a car asap.

When Chuck Trickle's son got shot in a drive-by here in Vegas, the short track community rallied in an almost unbelievable fashion. Chuck took on Chris' best buddy as an understudy. Chuck changed the number to that of his son's on his car. Every Late Model on the track has a 70 sticker on it and it's almost 4 years later. There is a children's play area built to honor the young man just outside of Turn One.

Shucks, about a month ago some veteran slid up in to a rookie and totalled the rookies car. The vet pulls out his back-up and tells the rookie to race it till he can get his own car rebuilt.

Stuff hurts. Racing hurts. Death at the track is a part of it.
 
I just hope that the emotional trauma of the incident does overshadow what seemed to be some good abilities, but it'll show if she's really got the heart of a racer.
 
I don't think NASCAR would have anything to back their decision to not let her race in the bgn series.

What are they going to do, ban her for a year b/c she killed a driver? For something that wasn't even really her fault. NASCAR putting the blame on her like this is uncalled for, and if she wants to race again after this, i don't think there is any reason why she shouldn't.

15 seconds is not a lot of time to slow down, especially if her spotter didn't tell her what was ahead in time.

Accidents happen. That's the nature of the sport. Sometimes drivers die. That's the nature of the sport. We don't like it when it happens, but trying to blame someone for someones death when everyone is already speeding seems a little bit absurd.
 
have read conflicting reports this morning (friday).....one sez the spotter was blocked, but another said he radioed Renshaw.....
 
71...

Where did you read that report about her having been radioed?
 
Renshaw was the only one in the car. She's the only one who knows what happened.So instead of all the speculation and accusations, wait til renshaw speaks. It was a horrible tragedy, but hey thats racin.
 
from journalnow.com.....winston-salem....

"Bob Schacht, a veteran ARCA racer who has been working with her, was apparently her spotter, working from atop the team's rig in the infield garage near the fourth turn, not far from where the crash occurred. Schacht has been unavailable for comment, but one man he talked with said Schacht said he hadn't been able to see Martin's car on the track from his vantage point. Another man who talked with Schacht said that Schacht had radioed Renshaw about Martin's spin."
 
Originally posted by abooja
I was kind of surprised to hear Ricky Rudd openly questioning her ability to compete at that level. Wouldn't have expected that from him.

But do you think there's any truth to it? I don't know enough about Renshaw to make that determination.

IMO and a few orthers i know, Rudd is turning in to a a**hole latly.
 
Originally posted by Lap3Forever
IMO and a few orthers i know, Rudd is turning in to a a**hole latly.

I wouldn't go that far, Lappy. I like Rudd. I'd never say such a thing about him. I was just questioning his judgment in commenting before all the facts were in.
 
Originally posted by abooja
I wouldn't go that far, Lappy. I like Rudd. I'd never say such a thing about him. I was just questioning his judgment in commenting before all the facts were in.

i am sorry aboo, idiot is what i meant to say, i like him to but latly it's like he has lost his mind
 
Originally posted by Lap3Forever
i am sorry aboo, idiot is what i meant to say, i like him to but latly it's like he has lost his mind

Idiot isn't much nicer, you know.

But you're entitled to your opinion.
 
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