Report says Dr Atkins was overweight

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I was just shocked when I saw this headline :rolleyes:

NEW YORK (Feb. 10) - Dr. Robert Atkins, whose popular diet stresses protein-rich meat and cheese over carbohydrates, weighed 258 pounds at his death and had a history of heart disease, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy street.

Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by the city medical examiner.

At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass index calculator.

Diet is one potential factor in heart disease, but infections also can contribute to it.

Last month, the diet guru's widow, Veronica Atkins, demanded an apology from Mayor Michael Bloomberg after Bloomberg called her late husband "fat.''

She told the Journal she was outraged that the report had been made public.

"I have been assured by my husband's physicians that my husband's health problems late in life were completely unrelated to his diet or any diet,'' she said.

The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism.

Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, told the Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a condition that was thought to result from a viral infection.

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition and the time he spent in a coma after his head injury, and he had been much slimmer during most of his life, Trager said.

In April 2002, a year before he died, Atkins issued a statement saying he was recovering from cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from "for a few years.'' He said it was "in no way related to diet.''

On Tuesday, the medical examiner's office would say only that Atkins died of a head injury from the fall.

"I can't comment on people's previous conditions. It's against the law,'' said spokeswoman Ellen Borakove.

Borakove said that, because of family objections to an autopsy, the medical examiner had conducted only "an external exam'' and a review of Atkins' hospital records.

She said a report had been sent to a doctor in Nebraska who requested it, and said he apparently gave it to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

It was later discovered that the doctor was not "the treating physician'' and should not have had access to the report, Borakove said. The medical examiner's office plans to complain to Nebraska health officials, she said.

One of the handwritten comments in the medical examiner's report referred to "MI'' (myocardial infarction, the technical term for heart attack), the newspaper said. Trager said Atkins had no record of having had a heart attack, saying medical histories on examiner's reports are often written by less-experienced doctors who may not know a patient's detailed history.


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I am obviously no doctor, but common sense would tell you that any diet that stresses eating tons of meat and cheese is not a good idea in the long run.

The new Subway commercials that show the "new Atkins friendly wraps" crack me up. Have you seen them? They are wraps stuffed with fatty meats and cheeses. What part of that says healthy?

I have known several people who followed the Atkins diet and lost a ton of wieght. Every one of them has put on all the weight they lost and more. I'm sure there are exceptions to this trend, but I just can't believe this is a good idea.

Oh and I am sure Dr Atkins heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension were completely unrelated to his diet ;)
 
Sorry 4x...this whole article is a load of crap. I saw Dr. Atkins on Larry King Live about a month or two before he died and there is no way he weighed 258 pounds. If he was a pound over 200, I'll eat my hat.

Another thing about the Atkins diet, since I've followed it for over a year now...it does not stress eating meat, cheese and eggs. That is a misconception that you read in the media reports. Your friends who gained weight, must have stopped the diet completely and went back to eating doughnuts for breakfast, a candy bar for lunch & a seven course dinner. I lost 20 pounds, but have gained five back & have been holding consistant at that weight for 8 months. My problem is that I don't follow the diet religiously and don't exercise enough. The American Heart Association has admitted that the Atkins diet is as good as theirs because of evidence provided to them that people's cholesterol level has dropped on Atkins.
 
There are many types of heart disease. Not all of them are associated with a poor diet. My step-father's heart problems and subsequent death from heart problems were not associated with anything he ate. He had congestive heart failure. It was brought on at an early age due to rhumatic fever he contracted in the service while in the Korean war. He had his first heart attack in 1965 and lived until 1991. Even his 3-4 pack a day smoking habit had nothing to do with his heart problems. It certainly didn't help, but it wasn't the cause of it.
So, you cannot make a general assumption that someone's diet is the cause of their heart problems.
 
Well i have to sound off on this Atkins diet....it is just that a diet. Diets do not work,eating correctly and healthy does. Atkins stresses a low carbohydrate diet which is not good for the human body. A low carb diet is bad for the brain and memory functions. Low- glycemic carbs which tend to be unprocessed like brown rice for example vs white rice is the way to go. If it is in a package(i.e.,cookies,candies,cakes,muffins,ect.) it is most likely highly processed and not good for you. Atkins also allows you to eat polyunsaturated fats ( the kind that are solid at room temperature) which are very bad for you. Monounsaturated fats are the good kinds( olive oil,nuts,avocados,cold water fish). It really upsets me when i see all these restaurants and food companies jumping on this Atkins band wagaon just to make a buck. If you eat clean 5 to 6 times a day and exercise whether it be walking, going to the gym, or playing sports it will be much better for you. Check out "Eating for Life" by Bill Phillips or pick up a copy of Muscle Media or Energy 2 great magazines that stress eating the correct way to stay healthy.
 
Originally posted by Mopardh9@Feb 10 2004, 04:41 PM
Diets do not work,eating correctly and healthy does. Atkins stresses a low carbohydrate diet which is not good for the human body. Atkins also allows you to eat polyunsaturated fats ( the kind that are solid at room temperature) which are very bad for you. Monounsaturated fats are the good kinds( olive oil,nuts,avocados,cold water fish).
If you read up on Atkins, they never refer to it as a diet. The refer to eating healthy & excercise. Atkins does not stress a low carb diet, it stresses a lower carb count than most Americans eat. The only part of Atkins that is radical is the first two weeks. Atkins stresses the importance of getting your carbs from vegetables and whole grain wheat breads. I eat a ham & cheese sandwich on Manitowoc Ovens Filler bread for lunch everyday...it sure beats the ham & cheese hot pocket I used to eat. Atkins also recommends staying away from the man made (manufactured) fats which is polyunsatured fats, the kind that would be found in margarine & butter spreads. The body doesn't break down polyunsatured fats. Atkins allows you to eat saturated fats (natural). These are butter, eggs, meat. The body breaks down saturated fats. Atkins also recommends eating foods that have monounsaturated fats.
 
High Carbohydrate Diets, Triglyceride-Rich Lipoproteins, and Coronary Heart Disease Risk
Reference:
Abbasi, F., McLaughlin, T., Lamendola, C., et al., "High Carbohydrate Diets, Triglyceride-Rich Lipoproteins, and Coronary Heart Disease Risk," The American Journal of Cardiology, 85, 2000, pages 45-48.

Summary:
The purpose of this study was to compare the effects of variations in dietary fat and carbohydrate content on concentrations of triglycerides and cholesterol in eight healthy, non-diabetic volunteers. Subjects were randomly placed on one of two 14-day diets. During a two-week washout period subjects went back to consuming their normal diet to ensure that there were no carry-over effects before they switched to the other diet. Diet 1 consisted of 40% carbohydrate, 15% protein and 45% fat. Diet 2 consisted of 60% carbohydrate, 15% protein and 25% fat. Both diets were of the same caloric value and consisted of less than 10% saturated fat. The subjects were outpatients who consumed food prepared in a kitchen and met with a dietitian three times a week. On the 15th day of diets 1 and 2, plasma triglycerides, cholesterol, LDL (“bad”) cholesterol, HDL (“good”) cholesterol, remnant lipoprotein (RLP) and remnant triglycerides were measured both after an over-night fast and throughout an eight-hour period. Despite being lower in dietary fat, the 60% carbohydrate diet resulted in higher triglycerides (206 mg/dl versus 113 mg/dl), RLP cholesterol (15 mg/dl vs. 0.6 mg/dl), RLP triglycerides (56 mg/dl versus 16 mg/dl) and lower HDL (39 mg/dl vs. 44 mg/dl) without change in LDL, compared to the higher fat diet. Researchers concluded that the clinical use of current dietary guidelines aimed at decreasing risk of coronary heart disease be reexamined. Since high intake of dietary fat does not have any detrimental effects on blood lipids, and in view of the potential damage to arteries of a high-carbohydrate diet, researchers questioned the replacement of dietary fat with carbohydrate.

Commentary:
These findings can be applied to the Atkins Principles of Good Health and Disease Prevention. Higher fat diets did not increase total or LDL cholesterol, therefore offering no negative effects on cardiovascular function. Fasting RLP cholesterol and triglycerides were higher in volunteers eating a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet and these measures remained elevated throughout the day, increasing risk for atherosclerosis. Carbohydrate controlled nutrition, whereby dietary fat and protein are increased while carbohydrate is decreased, lowersand lowers risk factors for cardiovascular disease, thus improving heart health. It’s worth noting that this diet was low in carbohydrates only compared to the typical American diet of about 300 grams of carbs per day. The Akins Nutritional Approach is much lower in carbohydrate content. The amount of carbohydrate in this study would meet the Lifetime Maintenance level for some individuals.
 
The Truth About Dr. Atkins’ Weight
By Stuart Trager, M.D.
At the time of his injury at the age of 72, after years of following the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM, Dr. Atkins’ recorded height was 6 feet and his recorded weight was 195 pounds.

In today's Wall Street Journal a grossly distorted story on the health of Dr. Robert C. Atkins reported that he weighed 258 pounds at the time of his death, making him obese. In fact, the day after his fall, Dr. Atkins' weight was recorded as195 pounds, 63 pounds less than reported at his death! Based on the body mass index (BMI), a desirable range for people over the age of 65, is 24 to 29. At a height of 6 feet, Dr. Atkins’ BMI was 26.4, putting him squarely in the normal range for his age.

The Journal article was based on incomplete and inaccurate personal medical information that was released in violation of federal law. Furthermore, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), which, despite its name is a group of animal rights activists, illegally delivered these documents to the newspaper.

Dr. Atkins' weight was consistently and frequently documented in the years and months prior to his fall; as he was suffering from cardiomyopathy, his health was monitored closely. Despite this, he regularly played tennis, his favorite sport.
 
Dr. Atkins on the day before his accident.
 

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Hmmmmmm..........258 lbs on a six foot frame? For some reason that doesn't sound obese to me. Maybe overweight but not obese. But then again it does depend on the individual. I'm 5' 10" and 165 lbs........and everyone says I'm skinny. I have a friend who's 6'1" and wieghs right at 270 lbs and every says he's fit! What gives? 3 inches and 105 lbs!! :huh: Pretty weird, huh?
 
I sometimes wonder where they get the "standardized" numbers. I'm 6 foot tall and 210 lbs and according to the standard, I am overweight, but noone would agree with it.
 
I'm not too sure if this is on topic, but I was reading in one of them health magaiznes that all of the protiens in the Atkins diet will shut your kidnets down
 
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