Road Course Weekend ahead (keeping track of whos where?)

wilson89

wilson89

Team Owner
Joined
Mar 20, 2008
Messages
2,371
Points
413
Location
bay area - northern california
With The Nationwide Series at Road America in Wisconsin and The Cup Series at Infineon Raceway in Northern California. The usual road course experts are going to have to make a choice this year which race there going to run.

Heres what I got so far -

Nationwide Series
#09 Robb Brent
#88 Ron Fellows
#32 Jaceques Villeneuve
#27 Owen Kelly
#21 Tim George JR
#23 Alex Kennedy
#35 Tony Ave
#43 Kevin O' Connell

Cup Series
#26 Boris Said
#09 Jan Magnussen
#83 Mattias Ekström
#02 Brandon Ash
#36 Brian Simo
#07 PJ Jones
 
I can't wait for Nationwide Series at Road America. I hope it doesn't disappoint.
 
wilson89 said:
With The Nationwide Series at Road America in Wisconsin and The Cup Series at Infineon Raceway in Northern California. The usual road course experts are going to have to make a choice this year which race there going to run.
Click to expand...

Whoever pays the most is my guess.
 
All of them are great drivers but for the most part the so called 'Road Course Experts' end up being a non-story at Cup events. There's always quite a bit of hype that surrounds them but at the end of the day the Cup driver is in victory lane. Maybe that will change some day with some better equipment? They'd probably be better off @ Road America this weekend.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
All of them are great drivers but for the most part the so called 'Road Course Experts' end up being a non-story at Cup events. There's always quite a bit of hype that surrounds them but at the end of the day the Cup driver is in victory lane. Maybe that will change some day with some better equipment? They'd probably be better off @ Road America this weekend.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I agree..They usually end up driving these cars into the grass...or just spinning out
 
Bucky Badger said:
Yeah. I agree..They usually end up driving these cars into the grass...or just spinning out
Click to expand...

I hear ya. I always seem to pick them for my fantasy teams and it never pans out. I don't plan on picking them this weekend, so they should do well.
 
Did you see the story on Wind Tunnel about them bringing the Dirt Modifieds to an asphalt road course?! They practiced on dirt tires, too! :eek:
 
PettyBlue said:
Did you see the story on Wind Tunnel about them bringing the Dirt Modifieds to an asphalt road course?! They practiced on dirt tires, too! :eek:
Click to expand...

WOW! I'll bet that would be just the cats nutz! Modifieds on a road course. I miss a lot of that stuff. Over fifty years as a fan will do that to a person. I just don't get into the nitty gritty like I used to. All that totally unnecessary explanation being offered, please, keep us, me, informed of this. It sounds like it would be just spectacular.
 
I can't wait for these races. I love NASCAR on road courses.

The race at Road America should be interesting. There are 3 long straights before hard braking for the turns that should setup some good dive-bombing passes.
 
How long is it going to take to run a lap under caution at Road America? Slightly over 4 miles. The layout looks pretty cool though.
 
foehammer111 said:
I can't wait for these races. I love NASCAR on road courses.

The race at Road America should be interesting. There are 3 long straights before hard braking for the turns that should setup some good dive-bombing passes.
Click to expand...

or bonzai move crashes;)
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
How long is it going to take to run a lap under caution at Road America? Slightly over 4 miles. The layout looks pretty cool though.
Click to expand...

Probably around 4-5 minutes to complete a lap under caution. Depending on how fast the pace car goes.
 
kkfan91][QUOTE=foehammer111 said:
I can't wait for these races. I love NASCAR on road courses.

The race at Road America should be interesting. There are 3 long straights before hard braking for the turns that should setup some good dive-bombing passes.
Click to expand...

or bonzai move crashes;)
[/quote]

Here is a low-res (360x240) video I shot last night. I started 14th first race and 43rd second race....I suggest skipping to 2:20 if you want to see some bonzai's when I started dead last. I gained 6 spots on the first lap of the first race and 20 the second race.



And hi-res (720x480): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzotHcbK60s
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
All of them are great drivers but for the most part the so called 'Road Course Experts' end up being a non-story at Cup events. There's always quite a bit of hype that surrounds them but at the end of the day the Cup driver is in victory lane. Maybe that will change some day with some better equipment? They'd probably be better off @ Road America this weekend.
Click to expand...

I like road course experts. Theres only two cup races you see them a year and they usualy add excitement since there not running for points they can push it a little harder.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
How long is it going to take to run a lap under caution at Road America? Slightly over 4 miles. The layout looks pretty cool though.
Click to expand...

I don't understand why NASCAR doesn't use local cautions like everyone else does on road courses :(
 
Entry List
Bucyrus 200 presented by Menards | Road America
June 19, 2010 | Race 15 of 35

CAR DRIVER HOMETOWN MAKE SPONSOR OWNER
01 Mike Wallace St. Louis, MO Chevrolet J Davis Motorsports.com Lori Davis
05 Victor Gonzalez Jr. San Juan, Puerto Rico Chevrolet Goodall Homes / 31-W Insulation Wayne Day
6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr.* Olive Branch, MS Ford CitiFinancial Jack Roush
7 J.R. Fitzpatrick Cambridge, Ontario Chevrolet Schick Bryan Mullet
09 Robb Brent Shelby Township, MI Ford RAB Racing Robby Benton
10 Tayler Malsam Sammamish, WA Toyota Braun Racing Todd Braun
11 Brian Scott* Boise, ID Toyota BigSpot.com Harry Scott Jr.
12 Justin Allgaier Riverton, IL Dodge Verizon Wireless Roger Penske
15 Michael Annett Des Moines, IA Toyota Germain.com Bob Germain
16 Colin Braun* Ovalo, TX Ford Roush Fenway Racing Jack Roush
18 Brad Coleman Houston, TX Toyota SafeWay Driving Centers Joe Gibbs
20 Matt DiBenedetto Grass Valley, CA Toyota Pizza Ranch Joe Gibbs
21 Tim George Jr. New York, NY Chevrolet Zaxby's Richard Childress
22 Brad Keselowski Rochester Hills, MI Dodge Discount Tire Jodi Geschickter
23 Alex Kennedy Aztec, NM Chevrolet HelpTruckers.com Robert Richardson
24 Eric McClure Chilhowie, VA Ford Hefty Odorblock Ed Rensi
26 Brian Keselowski Rochester Hills, MI Dodge K-Automotive Motorsports Bob Keselowski
27 Owen Kelly Devonport, Tasmania Ford Baker Curb Racing Mike Curb
28 Kenny Wallace St. Louis, MO Chevrolet Anderson's Maple Syrup Jay Robinson
31 Stanton Barrett Bishop, CA Chevrolet Lilly Trucking / 4Caring.org / Taleo Grill Rick Ware
32 Jacques Villeneuve Montreal, Quebec Toyota Dollar General Todd Braun
33 Ron Hornaday Palmdale, CA Chevrolet Longhorn Smokeless Tobacco DeLana Harvick
34 Tony Raines La Porte, IN Chevrolet Long John Silver's Bob Jenkins
35 Tony Ave Hurley, WI Chevrolet TriStar Motorsports Mark Smith
38 Jason Leffler Long Beach, CA Toyota Great Clips Ralph Braun
40 Mike Bliss Milwaukie, OR Chevrolet Key Motorsports Curtis Key, Sr
43 Kevin O'Connell Newport Beach, CA Ford Baker Curb Racing Mike Curb
60 Carl Edwards Columbia, MO Ford Fastenal Jack Roush
61 Josh Wise Riverside, CA Ford Specialty Racing Doug Taylor
62 Brendan Gaughan Las Vegas, NV Toyota South Point Hotel & Casino Rusty Wallace
66 Steve Wallace Mooresville, NC Toyota 5-Hour Energy Rusty Wallace
70 Mark Green Owensboro, KY Chevrolet ML Motorsports Mary Louise Miller
81 Michael McDowell Phoenix, AZ Dodge Mobile-Shop.com Pat MacDonald
87 Antonio Perez Guadalajara, Mexico Chevrolet FrontRowJoe.com Andrea Nemechek
88 Ron Fellows Mississauga, Ontario Chevrolet AER Manufacturing Dale Earnhardt, Jr
89 Morgan Shepherd Conover, NC Chevrolet Victory In Jesus Cindy Shepherd
90 Patrick Long Thousand Oaks, CA Toyota System High Corporation Eddie D'Hondt
92 Dennis Setzer Newton, NC Dodge K-Automotive Motorsports Brian Keselowski
98 Paul Menard Eau Claire, WI Ford MasterCraft / Menards Jack Roush
99 Trevor Bayne Knoxville, TN Toyota Diamond Waltrip Racing Michael Waltrip
104 Kevin Lepage Shelburne, VT Chevrolet Jeremy Clements Racing Gene Vess
156 Carlos Contreras Mexico City, Mexico Toyota Mac Hill Motorsports John McNelly
159 Kyle Kelley Huntington Beach, CA Chevrolet UPR.com / Apex / Jamison Bob Kelley

* Denotes Rookie
 
wilson89 said:
I like road course experts. Theres only two cup races you see them a year and they usualy add excitement since there not running for points they can push it a little harder.
Click to expand...

I didn't mean to imply that I don't like them to be there it's just all of the hype that surrounds them. It's not nearly as bad as it used to be. There's always been a lot of build up about the road course experts coming in and stealing the show. It simply hasn't happened. It always seems like it is a Cup regular that hoists the trophy in victory lane. I'd like to see Boris Said there some day. Really, any of them for that matter.
 
semipenguin said:
I don't understand why NASCAR doesn't use local cautions like everyone else does on road courses :(
Click to expand...

I pretty sure that they do/have. It's a solid blue flag that is used; not to be confused with the blue flag with the yellow stripe or the pull over and let him pass flag. I don't think it's used often but I sure agree with you, it should be.
 
semipenguin said:
I don't understand why NASCAR doesn't use local cautions like everyone else does on road courses :(
Click to expand...

A local caution in F1 for example just means no passing in that zone. This allows the race to continue, but also puts the track workers at risk because cars are still going by at speed.

When NASCAR races on road courses, they don't use local yellows because they want to protect the safety crews. The same rules for oval tracks apply.

This means that if debris or fluid is on the racing surface, they will throw the caution to clean it up. If a car spins, or is involved in a crash they will not throw the caution unless the cars are immoble. As long as they can get going again, the race stays green. Because of how long the road courses are, this usually gives the offcials several minutes to decide if they need to throw the yellow.
 
foehammer111 said:
A local caution in F1 for example just means no passing in that zone. This allows the race to continue, but also puts the track workers at risk because cars are still going by at speed.

When NASCAR races on road courses, they don't use local yellows because they want to protect the safety crews. The same rules for oval tracks apply.

This means that if debris or fluid is on the racing surface, they will throw the caution to clean it up. If a car spins, or is involved in a crash they will not throw the caution unless the cars are immoble. As long as they can get going again, the race stays green. Because of how long the road courses are, this usually gives the offcials several minutes to decide if they need to throw the yellow.
Click to expand...

Also, being a longer track- 2 laps at Sonoma or Watkins is 1 lap at RA. So the physical caution length will be the same, if it takes 4 laps to clean a mess at those 2 tracks, it will only take 2 laps at RA. I can't see any given caution be more than 2 laps, maybe even 1. 45 MPH average speed covers 4 miles in 5 minutes 20 seconds. Another thought to ponder- If something happens at like turn 3, they have to go 3 miles "under caution" with no pace car.... So i'm wondering if they'll use local yellows for the first time so they just don't pass in the danger section, then catch the full-course at the flag stand?
 
foehammer111 said:
A local caution in F1 for example just means no passing in that zone. This allows the race to continue, but also puts the track workers at risk because cars are still going by at speed.

When NASCAR races on road courses, they don't use local yellows because they want to protect the safety crews. The same rules for oval tracks apply.

This means that if debris or fluid is on the racing surface, they will throw the caution to clean it up. If a car spins, or is involved in a crash they will not throw the caution unless the cars are immoble. As long as they can get going again, the race stays green. Because of how long the road courses are, this usually gives the offcials several minutes to decide if they need to throw the yellow.
Click to expand...

Besides, how else are you going to keep the field bunched up?
 
Magnethead said:
Another thought to ponder- If something happens at like turn 3, they have to go 3 miles "under caution" with no pace car.... So i'm wondering if they'll use local yellows for the first time so they just don't pass in the danger section, then catch the full-course at the flag stand?
Click to expand...

They could also use mutiple pace cars stationed throughout the track to minimize the distance the cars would have to go without a pace car.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom