Robby Gordon Expands?

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Robby buying RYR? The LTN Radio Network has learned that Robby Gordon has purchased Robert Yates Racing, #88 and #38 Cup teams and #90 Busch Series team to be effective this week. The Yates-Roush engine program is not included in the sale. No word on the status of the contracts between RYR and sponsors M&M/Mars and Citifinancial, and how they will be affected by the sale.(LTN Radio Network)(8-15-2006)

Now this seems a bit far-fetched!!!!
 
This doesn't seem far fetched to me. With all that's happened to RYR this year, I have been thinking that Robert is ready to get out of being a car owner business. This will definately be something to watch.
 
if its true...id hate to see Robert and Doug Yates leave the business....its sad to see a team thats been around for as long as it has be sold.

Although...i'm glad Robby bought it instead of freakin Roush.....i think its a smart move for Robby.
 
If it is true, that would makes sense why the engine program is not part of the deal. Jack Roush owns part of the engine program.
This would open the door for a super Ford team by Jack and Robert.
 
okay, what doesn't make any sense to me is that if its a Ford team and Robby doesn't get RY engines, then isn't Robby up SH Creek? He doesn't have an engine program now and leaes DEI engines...which you can't use in Fords, right? So will he lease RY engines? I don't understand...however, as a Robby G fan, I think its an awesome move...does that bring the 7 along with him, or will he drive one of the others?

Okay, I went and checked the LTN Radio website...it doesn't even exist.

Also, if this IS true, I bet he switches the whole organization to Toyota...it would get him out of any contracts with Chevy as buying a Ford team is a conflict of interest and being a new owner the old contracts might not apply. Then of course, he's been with Ford before, they might reopen the relationship or something since the Yates flag is flying pretty low.

The timing also makes sense, right after the road course...which was his best chance of winning this year. Hmmm...very interesting.
 
I'd say those cars will change to Chevy unless he's contracturally obligated to run Ford, which he'd then lease engines from RYR for the rest of the year.

Wonder if Jarrett wants another car to drive the rest of the season?
 
I would bet he is just buying the shop space and cars. All the cars will be the same next year, so this years cars will be scrap metal for all teams. If the rumor is true.
 
I see;
#38 - M&M's - David Gilliand
# 7 - Jim Bean - Robby Gordon
#88 - Menards - Paul Menard

Yes he's getting motors from DEI, but does no one remember last year Menard bought into and got a contract for DEI Motors?
 
RG will run the 88 Busch car the next two weeks for Jr. Robby still has some strong ties to DEI and Menard.
 
Yates denied it per Jayski...but Robby's name has come up with Yates a few times recently...so I don't know...a public denial no longer means anything in this sport.
 
RYR is done. The value in that team (without the engine program which reportedly would not be sold, plus its co-owned by Roush) are the points of the #38 and #88 and M&M's as a sponsor for the #38 car.



Bold prediction:

-Remember when Menards was doing the motors for Robby last year? Since that failure Menards has been working with the DEI engine program and Robby has been getting DEI engines all year. Also Menards is a sponsor for the #7.

-Note that Paul Menard is moving up to the #15 next year, but the #15 is not in the top 35 in owner points. This is where the points of the #88 would come in. If RYR gets sold to RGM, Menard could drive for RGM in the #88 or those points could be sold to DEI for the #15 for Menard.

-Robby is now driving Junior's Busch car for a couple races, obviously the alliance is there.


RGM:
#7 Jim Beam/Harrah's - Robby Gordon
#38 M&M's - David Gilliland

DEI:
#8 Budweiser - Dale Jr
#1 Bass Pro Shops - Martin Jr

Either RGM or DEI:
#88 owner points/#15 Menards - Paul Menard


RGM-DEI alliance similar to the current Roush-RYR alliance right now. :p
 
UPDATE: a representative from Robert Yates Racing says this is NOT True and will not happen, denying that Yates is selling to Robby Gordon.
UPDATE 2: A report that Robby Gordon Motorsports [RGM] has purchased Robert Yates Racing's Cup and Busch Series teams was denied by officials with RGM Tuesday. But, John Story, CEO of Robby Gordon Motorsports, said the two teams have spoken about a possible merger of some sort. "As Robby stated several months ago, we have talked to a number of people both in and out of NASCAR about expanding, with the ultimate goal of fielding a championship-caliber team," Story said. "To be competitive in NASCAR's Cup series today, you've got to have multiple teams. So, yes, we've spoken [to RYR officials], but we've spoken with other people also. "That any sort of deal has been completed between the two teams is completely erroneous." According to the Internet story posted by the LTN Radio Network, the purchase of RYR by Robby Gordon Motorsports would be "effective this week." Story said the need to expand to multiple teams has led to discussions with a number of organizations currently competing in the series, including Hall of Fame Racing and PPI Motorsports among others. "Not surprisingly, a number of teams have contacted us as well," Story said. "But you can't just take two single-car teams and put them together and say you are now a multicar team. It's just not that easy. There are a number of issues that come into play." Those issues, he said, include concerns such as shop space, manufacturer representation, sponsorships and driver selection. "If you make a move like that," he said, "you have to make sure you're in lock step with one another. If anything changes, you have to agree on what the new path will look like."(SceneDaily.com)(8-15-2006)

Okay, I went and checked the LTN Radio website...it doesn't even exist.

I was there today they did exist this morning but now they are offline?? Strange...but I did not find anything about the story this morning anyway
 
UPDATE 3 from RGM: "The rumor that we have consummated a deal to purchase Robert Yates Racing is just that, a rumor. As we publicly stated several months ago, we have spoken to a number of organizations about the idea of aligning resources with the goal of creating a championship-caliber program. In today's NASCAR, great people and multiple teams are two of the requirements needed to win a championship and there are really only two ways for us to get there. The first is to find additional marketing partners for a second, third and fourth car, and the other is to align with another team that is interested in the same opportunities. For months we have been talking to multiple sponsors and teams, and while one of those teams is Robert Yates Racing, we have not purchased Robert's program."(John Story, General Manager and CEO, Robby Gordon Motorsports)
 
I seem to remember a time when Dale Jr. called Robby an idiot at Bristol for the way he drove. Now a few years later Robby is driving Jrs' Busch car, how strange some things change over time. It would make sense for Robby to align himself closely with Menards and DEI so that he has the option open for engine supplies. If he were to buy into Yates they would just change all the cars over to Chevys i would imagine, that would make the most sense.
 
RobbyG Fan said:
RYR is done. The value in that team (without the engine program which reportedly would not be sold, plus its co-owned by Roush) are the points of the #38 and #88 and M&M's as a sponsor for the #38 car.



Bold prediction:

-Remember when Menards was doing the motors for Robby last year? Since that failure Menards has been working with the DEI engine program and Robby has been getting DEI engines all year. Also Menards is a sponsor for the #7.

-Note that Paul Menard is moving up to the #15 next year, but the #15 is not in the top 35 in owner points. This is where the points of the #88 would come in. If RYR gets sold to RGM, Menard could drive for RGM in the #88 or those points could be sold to DEI for the #15 for Menard.

-Robby is now driving Junior's Busch car for a couple races, obviously the alliance is there.


RGM:
#7 Jim Beam/Harrah's - Robby Gordon
#38 M&M's - David Gilliland

DEI:
#8 Budweiser - Dale Jr
#1 Bass Pro Shops - Martin Jr

Either RGM or DEI:
#88 owner points/#15 Menards - Paul Menard


RGM-DEI alliance similar to the current Roush-RYR alliance right now. :p


i wouldnt be totally surprised if that happened...DEI has said in the past they would like to find another team to help to allign with to make them better as well...remember the rumors floating around about MB2.

there just are too many ties to robby and DEI right now.

Menards along with Robby driving jr's busch car.

lets also not forget that Robby drove the first DEI cup car...although SR wasnt happy with him at all at the time haha.
 
This Buds For Me said:
i wouldnt be totally surprised if that happened...DEI has said in the past they would like to find another team to help to allign with to make them better as well...remember the rumors floating around about MB2.

there just are too many ties to robby and DEI right now.

Menards along with Robby driving jr's busch car.

lets also not forget that Robby drove the first DEI cup car...although SR wasnt happy with him at all at the time haha.

A couple of other funny things...

David Gilliland has practiced (and raced?) Robby's car before. Plus John Menard was Robby's partner back in 2000 as owner driver. Paul Menard has also practiced Robby's car. And Red Bull sponsors both Paul and Robby.

Ha... soap opera...
 
RobbyG Fan said:
A couple of other funny things...

David Gilliland has practiced (and raced?) Robby's car before. Plus John Menard was Robby's partner back in 2000 as owner driver. Paul Menard has also practiced Robby's car. And Red Bull sponsors both Paul and Robby.

Ha... soap opera...
John Menard is still a huge financial partner to Robby. He furnished Robby's motors last year, and through the Menard/DEI motor shop is furnishing him with engines this year. John & Ronny have been tied together since Robby's CART days driving Menard's car. Whose cars have Robby raced at Indy? Menard's.
 
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I like the notion of aligning with DEI. Even better how about aligning with JRMotorsports and Jr fielding a cup team? Get these rumors flying :)

I don't think it's that unusual for drivers/owners to align with people they've had problems with in the past. Earnhardt sr. even hired DW to drive for him a few years back. Now that was odd <g>
 
This is an Interesting read

Apparently LTN Radio being sown the other day was due to the whole Robby Gordon thing. Here is the article:

Aug. 14, 2006 - What a day!
To our longtime listeners and new readers:

Let's see...I was called a "wiener" and a "crack pipe-smoking media wanna-be" simply for breaking a story before the "legitimate media" did. SO...here's the story:

I got a phone call on Monday night from a long time friend and racing insider giving me a heads up that Robby Gordon has purchased Robert Yates Racing. "Thanks", I said, since our show is recorded on Sunday and the news didn't exactly do me any good on a Monday...but wait! I KNOW!! It's time to email the most powerful man in NASCAR media...one Jay Adamczyk, known to 1.7 million readers per day simply as "Jayski". I had a funny feeling he would find this as newsworthy. Jay has known about LTN for many years, and we have exchanged email many times during that span. So, at 9pm CDT Monday

I sent the following note to the "NetGod":

The LTN Radio Network has learned that Robby Gordon has purchased Robert Yates racing to be effective this week. The Yates engine program is not included in the sale. We have not learned the status of the contracts between RYR and sponsors M&M/Mars and Citifinancial, and how they will be affected by the sale.

I knew the impact of this was going to be significant. It came out of left field, and "legitimate" media HATES finding out this sort of thing from a source that isn't mainstream, because it CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TRUE!
The post was on Jayski.com first thing on Tuesday, and I can just imagine the phones ringing across NASCARLAND. LTN co-host Ed Cluka was woken by a regular member of the NASCAR touring media to muse that this is probably all a plot by Jack Roush to buy up more teams and get around the new rule limiting the amount of teams that one owner can control. No, that isn't it. Among my many calls was a fellow media "outsider" who checked with his own sources and I'LL BE DAMNED, BUT IT'S TRUE. Not only is the sale IMMINENT, but the RYR Fords are all going to be re-skinned by Fontana as Chevrolets. David Gilliland was supposed to be announced at Indy as RYR's new driver, but something "came up" at the last minute and Yates was left to stammer something about "not having all the details" of the contract worked out. Hmmmm...details like SELLING OUT TO GORDON, perhaps? Gilliland is a California buddy of Gordon and WILL be in the #38 Chevy's for Gordon.

Now...in the meantime, Jayski's story shook this response out of RYR:
UPDATE: a representative from Robert Yates Racing says this is NOT True and will not happen, denying that Yates is selling to Robby Gordon.
My first reaction was "a representative"?? Still not the kick in the teeth I was afraid was on the way. No, that came a couple hours later, also posted on Jayski:

UPDATE 3 from RGM: "The rumor that we have consummated a deal to purchase Robert Yates Racing is just that, a rumor. As we publicly stated several months ago, we have spoken to a number of organizations about the idea of aligning resources with the goal of creating a championship-caliber program. In today's NASCAR, great people and multiple teams are two of the requirements needed to win a championship and there are really only two ways for us to get there. The first is to find additional marketing partners for a second, third and fourth car, and the other is to align with another team that is interested in the same opportunities. For months we have been talking to multiple sponsors and teams, and while one of those teams is Robert Yates Racing, we have not purchased Robert's program."(John Story, General Manager and CEO, Robby Gordon Motorsports)(8-15-2006)

Hmmm, my first reaction was akin to how I felt hearing Bill Clinton tell the folks who voted him into office that he never had sex with Monica Lewinsky. AH... but imagine having this story come out while you're having talks with M&M/Mars (a deal probably worth around $20 mil per year) and Citi bank (probably around $10m). This John Story fellow had better reasons to lie about Monica than Slick Willie did.

In the mean time, the Sirius satellite radio program came on at 2 central, and host Dave Moody decided since he didn't hear this from "legitimate" media, there was NO WAY it could be true. But that's not enough...he called me a "crack-pipe smoker" and a "media wanna-be". And the one that REALLY hurt..he called me a "WIENER". I called his silly show to try to explain that I actually HAVE been doing this for awhile and that I really MIGHT have good sources built up over the years, but I found myself getting pissed at his total lack of respect. (Besides, when I told him I had more listeners than HE did, he turned from being rude to just plain ugly. Which is understandable). They terminated my call and proceeded to make fun of this website, and MOCKED us. A true professional. You know you truly have made the big time when you are named an MRN backstretch announcer. His daily show originates from NASCAR's headquarters in Daytona, so you can just imagine the unbiased opinions he is allowed to have.

Right now, the racing world believes that this never was a story in the first place, and that you just can't trust some guy in Milwaukee to get a story as big as this one before you read a press release.

Thanks to all those who can keep an open mind. My biggest error was saying this will happen this week, as it looks like it may not happen until next week. He who laughs last...
--Todd Behling
 
so if this is true,which i'm starting to think it is, I see a "strategic alliance" with DEI which would put Menard in the 15 with the 88's points...Gilliland in the 38 as a rookie, running some races this year, but the rest by Mayfield (who has something lined up, but cant' comment until the details are worked out). A lot of people involved in all of this certainly have a sudden plethora of "details" to be worked out. So, I believe RobbyGFan was pretty much right on the money.

So
1 - Truex Jr.
7 - Robby Gordon
8 - Earnhardt Jr.
15 - Menard (with 88's points)
38 - Gilliland
 
i actually hope this is true.....although i hate to see the Yates guys leave the sport...but if this is true....im just glad the RYR is not going to Roush.
 
This Buds For Me said:
i actually hope this is true.....although i hate to see the Yates guys leave the sport...but if this is true....im just glad the RYR is not going to Roush.
ditto.

I dont care what nascar or other teams have to do, DO NOT LET RYR MERGE WITH ROUSCH!
 
Another interesting thing to note...

Remember that rumor going around that a manufacturer was ready to leave the sport? Sure its a rumor... but it sure gets interesting if all of this concerning Robby Gordon/RYR/DEI comes true then that only leaves Roush and the Wood Bros as the only Ford teams in the series. And surely Toyota cant expect MWR and BDR to be their flagship teams, cause they suck, lol. Think Roush will get the call from Toyota?
 
Makes me say HMMMMM..........


By SARAH KARUSH

DETROIT (AP) - Ford Motor Co. on Friday announced sharp cuts in its North American production that would force it to partially shut down plants in the United States and Canada in the fourth quarter.

The company said fourth-quarter production would be down 21 percent, or 168,000 units, from last year. Third-quarter production will be 20,000 units below what was previously announced.

For the full year, Ford plans to produce about 9 percent fewer vehicles than last year.

"We know this decision will have a dramatic impact on our employees, as well as our suppliers," Chairman and Chief Executive Bill Ford said in a note to employees. "This is, however, the right call for our customers, our dealers and our long-term future."

Dearborn-based Ford, which lost $254 million in the second quarter, vowed last month to speed up its North American restructuring.

Bill Ford told employees the cuts are part of that acceleration and said full details of more actions will be announced in September.

The nation's second-largest automaker said the cuts are an effort to match inventories to demand and avoid costly incentives. The plan also reflects reduced expectations for big trucks and sport utility vehicles considering high gas prices, the company said.

The new production plan will result in downtime this year at assembly plants in St. Thomas, Ontario; Chicago; Wixom, Mich.; Louisville, Ky.; Wayne, Mich.; St. Paul, Minn.; Kansas City, Mo.; Norfolk, Va.; and Dearborn, Mich., Ford said

The Wall Street Journal, citing unidentified sources, reported Friday that Ford is considering shutting down more factories and cutting salaried jobs and benefits by 10 percent to 30 percent.

Ford spokesman Oscar Suris declined to comment on the report.

Company officials would not say what specific impact the production cuts would have on workers. In general, hourly workers placed on temporary layoff receive 95 percent of their wages through state unemployment benefits and a supplement by Ford.

The United Auto Workers had no immediate comment on the announcement.

Ford shares dropped 20 cents, or 2.45 percent, to $7.97 in morning trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
Ford Motor Co. on Friday announced sharp cuts in its North American production that would force it to partially shut down plants in the United States and Canada in the fourth quarter.

On the news tonight they said Ford is shutting down 9 plants. Sales are down 10%. They've lost $15 Billion. Things don't look good for the Blue Oval folks...
 
None of the big 3 have lit it up in the last few years, maybe if their quality and price were more attractive American cars would out sell their overseas competitors.
 
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