Rudd and engine builder fined

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Just read on jayski that rudd was fined 5 grand and the other guy 10 grand for the little mishap the other night. also probation till the end of the year
 
I guess I missed something here... Did Rudd throw the first punch? If so he should be fined. I think that NASCAR has to much control over things these days and they need to chill on the fines. I sure hope all the money they have collected in fines this year is going to a worthy cause.
 
I can understand the fine, since Rudd did retaliate; but I don't undertand why he got probation. Big difference in what the crewman did vs. what Rudd did.
 
Originally posted by ParkHere
I can understand the fine, since Rudd did retaliate; but I don't undertand why he got probation.  Big difference in what the crewman did vs. what Rudd did.
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I can agree but what is that crewman doing still in a job anywhere on a NASCAR team? How about a $25,000 and revocation of any employment in any NASCAR sanctioned series? That's for the crewman.........not Ricky.
 
That seems a bit harsh, but it would certainly get the message across.
 
Robert Yates should get fined. Then it would get the message across. :mad:
 
its not like i would just stand there and let some one punch me of course i'd retaliate, most of us would~!!!!
 
I agree with DE: the crewman should have been canned, not just fined.

Rudd shouldn't have been given anything but a big apology, in my opinion, but certainly probation is absurd. NASCAR's got their head up their butt on this call. Nothing new, I guess. :headshake
 
Let's see, Rudd gets sucker punched and retailates by throwing a platic bottle at the idiot who hit him and then gets put on probation. Typical NASCAR logic. Why don't they take owners points away from Yates? Why don't they hold Yates responsible for all of thier actions?


NASCAR is getting like all the other sports. They make up rules as they go.
 
With all that has been happening lately (tony) I think NASCAR is over reacting to everything. MAybe Rudd shouldn't have thrown the bottle, but then again, I've never been punched in the eye. Owners and crew chiefs need to keep their folks under control. I tuned in a race lat Saturday and the WWE broke out.
 
Thank you Paul. I have been looking for a board like this so I can tell the racing world how I feel about a few things with NASCAR. Not that anyone will listen though.....ha:D
 
Hi Shiloh..........we'll listen, but then we might argue with you after listening.:) That's sort of what's it's all about though.

Now back to the Rudd thing. Robert certainly should be fined....maybe put on probation himself!! How about Havoline revoking their contract with him........following Ricky to the Wood Bros? I'm forming an email in my head at this moment about that........to Texaco!!
 
Wow, that's a load of bull dookie if I've ever heard one! I agree with whoever said Nascar is over-reacting to everything now. Obviously it's the media scrutinty that's contributed (I mean what, Cale, Dale, Petty, the Allisons never had stuff like this going on behind the scenes?!?!? Come on!), but give me a break. Good for Rudd for taking advantage of the invitation to go on a national show to voice his opinion after all that has been said/implied/insinuated. Or is that why he was fined, for taking Nascar's "dirty laundry" public?

I for one am not liking the direction this is headed....
 
HappyHour, you are very correct. The first Daytona 500 that was aired on national TV showed Donnie and Booby Allison and Cale swinging fist and kicking feet. NASCAR thought it was the greatest thing on Earth because that meant higher ratings for the next race they showed on TV.

And DE Wrangler, I'm always up for a good arguement or debate.;)
 
Raise your hand if you think that crewman will still have a job. Well, I can't see any hands. Oh well. See ya.
 
First off, Welcome Shiloh
Now on to this situation, why does everyone call this guy a crewman when we have been told that he works in the engine shop for RYR. and what the hell was he doing in the garage area if he is only an employee in the shop and not part of the actual race crew.
 
Thank you Racer8.

I wonder if he was in the pits incase something drastically went wrong with the engine? I can't remeber the race of the top of my head but it was within two or three weeks ago I think. Something happened to an engine and the pit repoter on TV interviewed an engine builder in the pits, and he was pissed off about something. He was also in a crewman's uniform. I want to say it was the Bristol race, but I'm not for sure.

I know thats pretty bland, but I just can't remember the detail right now.
 
Originally posted by racer8
why does everyone call this guy a crewman when we have been told that he works in the engine shop for RYR.
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Excuse me.:rolleyes:
 
Here's a thought. Has anyone considered that by punching a stock car driver IN THE EYE, this might jeopardize his vision thereby putting his life at risk? And yet they fine Rudd.

Maybe, they haven't found any cars 1/8 of an inch too low in awhile and the coffee jar is getting a little empty.
 
Originally posted by IronMan28


Maybe, they haven't found any cars 1/8 of an inch too low in awhile and the coffee jar is getting a little empty.
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Funny you said that.....

When I was at the track Saturday, Ward Burton came into the VIP tent where we were. Someone asked him what NASCAR did with all the money. The M.C. (for lack of a better term) said that the money went to charity. Ward then said."I doubt that...."

You had to be there, but it was hilarious.
 
Rudd getting fined for this is a crock of fecal matter. (See, I can be PC...I didn't say sh...) Like my significantly cuter other pointed out, that messes with a driver's vision, and that ain't cool.
 
Rudd is the victim in this case. It doesn't matter what he said to the guy, there is no excuse for that. I wonder how much that fine is going to hurt the crew member, they make alot less money than drivers.
 
Originally posted by fergy1370
Funny you said that.....

When I was at the track Saturday, Ward Burton came into the VIP tent where we were. Someone asked him what NASCAR did with all the money. The M.C. (for lack of a better term) said that the money went to charity. Ward then said."I doubt that...."

You had to be there, but it was hilarious.
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This subject comes up quite often. All the money from fines levied by NASCAR goes into the general point fund. Th epoint fundis paid out to the teams at the end of the season according to final point standings.

Bluntly, the money does not end up with NASCAR but with the teams so when reference is made to fines levied to "fatten" NASCAR's pockets it is completely unfounded.
 
My opinion - while Rudd was wrong for ripping his team publicly, he also does not deserve probation for having his eye dotted.
 
What a mess. Please God let it settle down before E-Sad gets there, or he might have to use some of them rasslin moves he learned in the Stacker Ads.
 
I'm glad the guy is gone, but he really should have been fired and made an example of. This way, Yates allows him to leave with dignity, while Rudd is only further humiliated each day he's a member of that team.

Way to go, Robert.:rolleyes:
 
Resigned can have many implications, nothing mandates that it be voluntary. As I've said before, throughout this whole ordeal with the 28 team, no gets to wear a completely white hat.

Just as note, the timing of the resignation and Robert's statement lead me to believe that this was handled in a professional manner, one of the few things that has been.

Todays release from RYR:

Statement from Robert Yates, team owner, Robert Yates Racing:

"On behalf of Robert Yates Racing and our team members, I want to apologize to our many fans, sponsors, associates and NASCAR for the incident that took place at Richmond International Raceway last Saturday night after the race. After meeting with my team members I feel confident that in moving forward, all those associated with RYR will compete and represent themselves in a manner that our fans and sponsors will be proud of."
 
From a site "insidethe pitbox".

This is an email sent to Heather N. Tygrett who writes regularly for this website. She vouches for the authenticity of the writer. As the author of the email fairly notes, every story has its different sides. I have no dog in this fight, so this presented in the interest of fair play to those involved.

Dear Heather:

The crew member was, my “friend”, Larry Lackey. I’m not sure what his exact title is but he works in the engine shop, hence his irritation with Ricky’s comments about the performance of his engines, and if I’m not mistaken, his area of expertise is working on the heads for the engines that are built. He’s been with RYR for several years now and prior to that worked with a team that went out of business after one year - Team 3 racing or something along those lines - and before that he worked for Dale Earnhardt.

Keep in mind that this is his side of the story and what’s the old saying - there are always 3 sides to any story, only one of which is the truth. Anyway, [Larry’s] story is that tensions have been extremely high at RYR ever since Ricky starting making derogatory comments about the team, whether it be about one of the Yates, his crew chief or the engines. He also said with all honesty that they were giving Ricky the best engines that they possibly could, regardless of his situation for next year. This may or may not be a known fact, but if any of the Yates cars finishes in the top 3, certain members of the team, Larry being one of them, get a bonus and the last he told me was it paid $1500...$1000....$500 respectively. So they have an incentive to give him the best possible equipment that they can.

So, here he is at the Richmond race and these comments have been weighing on him heavily and he decides to ask Ricky about them. Needless to say it does not go well. He doesn’t elaborate on how he approached Ricky, and knowing my “friend”, it wasn’t the best way that he possibly could have, but Ricky starts yelling profanities at him at which point Larry takes a swing at him. He connects, and he says he “thinks” that he hits him on the nose but isn’t sure. Other crew members immediately intervene and pull them apart but as Ricky is being pulled away he throws a Coke can which must have been full and hits Larry directly in the forehead opening a gash that requires 16 stitches. At this point blood is pouring out of his forehead and he is immediately taken to the hospital.

Robert Yates said he was less than happy about the events that transpired and had requested a meeting with Larry and Ricky on Monday (September 9th).

Well, there you have it, folks. The story from a different perspective, on behalf of the crew member involved – from a very reliable source (trust me). If you don’t believe it, that’s your prerogative.
 
Fatback weighs in on the story from his perspective:

Even when he (Lackey) was a Yates employee, he was not technically a member of Rudd's team. But McSwain said Rudd's public criticism of the engines -- and the months of accusations and allegations lobbed between Rudd and Yates -- stung all involved and led to Saturday night's fight.

"It was probably expected. How much can a person take when someone constantly, constantly, uses the media, manipulates the media and uses it as the avenue for their opinion?" McSwain said. "How much are people expected to take? But does that justify what happened Saturday night? No, by no means. Does it make it more understandable? Yes.

"But there is never any place for that, street justice doesn't belong in the work place, especially in our living."

McSwain is on the other side of the argument, confident that everyone at Yates is doing everything possible to win races and compete for the championship. And even though he has nothing to do with motors, he doubts Rudd is getting lesser equipment.

"I think that we probably have the best motor shop in the business and the best motor people in the business and I find it hard to believe that we're underpowered," he said. "I don't think it's ever been true and I can't believe it's ever been true."
 
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