ruh roh, Mayfield opened his mouth again!

Jeremy makes some good points. I have a hard time not believing him.
 
I will start off by saying that I never really liked Jeremy Mayfield. I can't really put my finger on exactly why. Maybe overrated and arrogant, but that applies to at least half of the starting grid every week. The only thing I ever really liked about him was that commercial he was in several years ago where the girl gets ready for their date by pouring motor oil in her bathtub and using gasoline as perfume.

That being said, he sure seemed awfully credible in these interviews. I'm even going to quit calling him Jeremy Methfield (even though I still think it's funny). I really don't think he is a good enough actor to pull off that interview if he wasn't telling the truth. NASCAR has done an awful lot over the years to damage it's own credibility. Too much for their word to be taken at face value, in my opinion.
 
last week i believed nascar, this week i dont know who to believe. I mean if he knows he's guilty and he knows a drug test will prove that, then why is he making such a big stink out of this?

But on the other hand, why would nascar do that to him?

I dont know what to think. I hope Mayfield's right just because i hope he's not on drugs. But if he is right, boy oh boy nascar has a lot of explaining to do.
 
Go Panthers said:
last week i believed nascar, this week i dont know who to believe. I mean if he knows he's guilty and he knows a drug test will prove that, then why is he making such a big stink out of this?

But on the other hand, why would nascar do that to him?

I dont know what to think. I hope Mayfield's right just because i hope he's not on drugs. But if he is right, boy oh boy nascar has a lot of explaining to do.
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The thing that is so frustrating about NASCAR's ownership is that they never feel the need to explain anything. They give the drivers, crew people and fans all the same mushroom treatment. They keep us all in the dark and feed us crap.
 
Once Nascar started down the road they couldn't turn back. They probably didn't think that Jeremy would stay around so long since he's not a super star and didn't have the stroke of a team behind him.

As to why Jeremy, who knows. Maybe Lil'E finally decided to get his revenge for Jeremy beating his old man a decade or so ago. Or, perhaps Jeremy didn't pass to Brian France quick enough, puff, puff, pass. It could be just about anything with the arrogance that is Nascar.
 
At this point I am just ready to hear a result so that all of this can end.
 
Ok, someone please tell me why NASCAR would conspire to "ruin" a back of the pack, glorified start and crash driver?
Do you realize that it would take ALL of the NASCAR gang, and ALL of a federally accredited lab (that does the drug testing) to keep this a secret?
Anyone can pull of being serious, and between his drugging he seems to be able to do this.
How about the moon landing? Was it fake too?
 
racepix said:
Ok, someone please tell me why NASCAR would conspire to "ruin" a back of the pack, glorified start and crash driver?
Do you realize that it would take ALL of the NASCAR gang, and ALL of a federally accredited lab (that does the drug testing) to keep this a secret?
Anyone can pull of being serious, and between his drugging he seems to be able to do this.
How about the moon landing? Was it fake too?
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is Labcorp not a federally accredited lab? You've got two different labs giving two different results.
 
racepix said:
http://4wide.com/uploads/docs/84287MayfieldLabCorpTestResults7.17.pdf

I attached a link to the LabCorp report, and it looks like something a 10th grader would hand in.
Even if they are accredited, I wouldn't accept this and some of my lawyer friends have said that it should be thrown out, since it was not tested to the same standards that Aegis has.
If you want to get in on another debate about this look here
http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/2009/07/mayfield-drowns-face-down-in-ultimate.html
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Look i dont have a dog in this race, i'm not on one side or the other, im just looking at what is being presented. Labcorp is a major lap here in the charlotte area that is used by a large amount of employers for drug testing as well as dr offices for other lab testing.

have you ever seen what a meth addict looks like? I personally think that if someone was using Meth for 10 plus years (which is what is being kicked around) dont you think he would show some physical signs of meth?

I was not surprised when i heard he was busted for drugs, I've said on this board that I had a buddy that worked on the 37 car way back when, rumor was being kicked around in the shop that he was on coke. Thats what i was expecting it to be. But Meth, something just doesnt add up. There are obvious physical signs of Meth.

IMO Nascar should have let the driver choose where he wanted his "B" sample tested. I dont think the driver should ever have contact with his sample after its been taken, but he should without a doubt be given the choice of where the "B" sample be tested.
 
I was at a "mid life crisis" b-day party this past weekend. The b-day boy is a avid, better not say something bad or he'll bite yer head off, Kennseth fan.

He's a doctor of almost 20 years. He said Mayfield is the best looking meth junkie he's ever seen. His wife is a doc, and Na$car fan, also and she agrees.
 
When this first broke, it seemed to me that most opinions were favorable to NASCAR. As time goes by and more info is let out, NASCAR is losing supporters, not quickly, but more and more people are at least beginning to think that something is wrong here. I've read various comments both here and other racing websites where there are people adamantly backing both sides, but one thing for sure, there isn't going to be any real winner in this. I've read where people ask why would NASCAR take this as far as they are taking it. Others ask, why is Jeremy taking this as far as he has. One thing we know is that if NASCAR loses this, it's going to hurt them not only in the pocket book, but up and down the pitlane and sponsors as well. If Jeremy loses, it will be life as it has been since the beginning of this. So Jeremy really has nothing to lose and a lot to gain.

It now looks as though this really isn't about the testing, but rather who has the most credibility. We have two accredited agencies who have come to opposite findings, one is paid for by NASCAR (positive) and the other is paid for by Mayfield (negative). I would guess if either of those agencies showed anything other than what was published, this would all end. But who know if that would even end it.

When this first came out, I didn't have any reason to doubt NASCAR. Even when Jeremy denied it, it seemed like anyone would do that. Then I read from different websites that said that this test could have a false positive, I began to wonder. Then when Jeremy's step-mother gave her testimony, again NASCAR began to look more credible. I began to think that maybe Jeremy is more than just a drug addict, that he could have some mental problems. But wait, it begins to swing the other way with another negative result and real doctors more or less coming to his rescue. I don't know who is at fault here, but like everyone else, I would like to see it ended with a clear result not hidden to the public, which I think might happen if it doesn't go to trial. I just don't think that NASCAR will ever take that chance and will try to settle to keep everything under the table. If not, then there will be a whole lot of new actions taken against them.
 
Its begining to looks like there is flaws in nascars drug policy but nascar doesnt what to admit they f-ed up so instead of admiting theres flaws there going to sacrifice Mayfield. Only time will tell the whole story but as of now its leaning this way.
 
Win or lose Mayfield's career in Na$car, in any capacity, is over. If he wins he'll be very wealthy but with a stigma forever associated to him. If he loses,,,, who knows.

The doc's statement from the Broward Co. Medical Examiners office calling the levels of methamphetamine found in the test “astronomical” and “could not be remotely accurate, unless Mr. Mayfield was deceased or a chronic abuser.” really makes me wonder. He doesn't look or act like a chronic user.

Why hasn't Na$car released the test results for all to see? They'll have to before trial in the discovery process. If those results are so skewed like this M E says and other medical pros agree it's going to be a done deal that Na$car and the lab screwed up. Why continue to fight? I don't think Mayfield's atty wouldn't fight the early release if it helped Mayfield.
 
SST55 said:
Why hasn't Na$car released the test results for all to see?
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I don't think that you'll see NASCAR release the test results for all to see. I think that they'll fight this in the appeals court rather than the court of public opinion like Mayfield. It'll be part of the public record when the case is heard.
 
Statements like these don't help him much:

NASCAR.com said:
Tuesday morning, Mayfield was baffled by NASCAR's alleged refusal to allow him to compete. He said he's continued to take Adderall for a diagnosed Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

"That's the first I've heard that they wouldn't allow me on a race track, and I don't know how they could overrule a federal judge about allowing me on the race track," Mayfield said. "But it wouldn't surprise me; because that's why they're in the situation they're in right now, and the same reason why they were in a situation with [Tim] Richmond, and the same reason why they were in the situation with Mauricia Grant [discrimination lawsuit that was settled out of court].


"Because they're the almighty, they're the big dog, they're the huge company that can do whatever they want to do and don't have to abide by any laws, any federal guidelines. They don't have to listen to what a federal judge says, I guess that's what they're saying, and sooner or later the federal government is going to step in.


"[NASCAR] hasn't really won anything yet, and they're [upset] about that. [NASCAR] doesn't really have any say-so about whether I go back on a race track or not. I really take this as discrimination. If they say I can't get on the race track, for what reason? If they're saying it's because I've got ADD and I take Adderall, now they're discriminating against me, or blackballing me, whichever you want to call it.


"I just can't believe they wouldn't allow me on the race track, which I guess is at their discretion, again."
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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Statements like these don't help him much:
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I sure agree with your statement. I just got done reading that article and all I can say is WOW. He is going every direction in that article. He really needs to keep quiet now and present his proof to back himself up on his statements. After reading that, he now appears to be pushing for some sort of discrimination lawsuit or something. His admission to still be taking the Adderall is puzzling to say the least. Why did that not show up in the so called, 'independent test'. Speaking of which, is it really an independent test when one of the two parties involved has selected the testing facility and is paying for it? Seems to me that an independent test would have to be selected by the court at this point.
 
I don't really care for one side or the other in this case, but I do agree that Mayfield needs to shut his trap. This is why people get lawyers to speak for them.

The longer this goes on, the more he sounds like a raving lunatic. I half expect him to show up naked in Times Square with a sign saying "The End Is Nigh!"
 
foehammer111 said:
I don't really care for one side or the other in this case, but I do agree that MThe longer this goes on, the more he sounds like a raving lunatic. I half expect him to show up naked in Times Square with a sign saying "The End Is Nigh!"
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LMFAO!
 
It actually sounds like he's stopped taking his medicine......
 
Just throw some money at it and settle it already.Nobody really cares anymore who's right or wrong anymore.
 
If you keep on listening to Jeremy, he sounds rational one time, then off the deep end the next.
Sounds like a druggie to me.
Don't let the statements by the step mom throw you off the track, it's just bright and shiny. Not really what needs to be looked at. Just the science will prove out in the end.
NASCAR can yank a hard card at any time, for any reason. They own the ball, remember.
 
nascar won't settle. it would appear like they were wrong and that will never happen.
 
There's a good article on NASCAR.com about this.

I remember Mayfield complaining about having someone watch him while he gave the sample. Apparently, this is common practice for most pro-sports. It's the only way the lab can be 100% sure the sample came from the athlete, and was not tampered with. If an athlete refuses to have someone observe, then it's considered the same as a positive test.

The problem with Mayfield's independent test was that no one observed him give the sample. This would not have been allowed in the NFL or MLB, and therefore, Mayfield will have a hard time getting that test result to stand in court.

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/07/24/jmayfield.urine.tests/index.html
 
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