SAFER Barrier Issues

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Atlanta claims they added 130 of some sort of barrier to protect drivers from hitting concrete walls. Where?
Jeff had absolutely no problem finding where they DIDN'T install it.
I'm really surprised he didn't go all spider monkey on crack on nascars ass
 
Bobw said:
Atlanta claims they added 130 of some sort of barrier to protect drivers from hitting concrete walls. Where?
Jeff had absolutely no problem finding where they DIDN'T install it.
I'm really surprised he didn't go all spider monkey on crack on nascars ass
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I was surprised as well, I do hope he raises some hell about it later on
 
I dont remember where they added tire barriers but Jeff is fine and he barely just missed the soft wall, I'm sure it'll be fixed next year, I don't think hell needs to be raised.
 
Wasn't a troll. Quit looking to find fault. BTW, as I said it wasn't a troll but it caught you didn't it?
 
The whole race I was looking at the lack of barrier there and expecting someone to complain about it, I would then reply with "the likely hood of someone hitting the wall there is almost zero, they would have to be turned mid straightaway". Funny how things like that happen.
 
They just need to nut up and put the barriers on every wall. I can't believe we are having this conversation 14 ****** years after NASCAR was forced to act after Dale Sr passed. They promote the safety advances so much, while half assing it at the same time.

Even DW said it as Gordon hit the concrete..."not again!"
 
In 2002, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway installed the first SAFER barrier, and soon all the other tracks on the NASCAR schedule installed the barriers. Time and time again, they have proven to work, and time and time again, drivers get seriously injured when they hit the walls where the SAFER barriers are not at.

In 2013, Hamlin crashed on the last lap at Fontana while racing Joey Logano. His car hit a spot on the wall that didn't have a SAFER barrier and it pretty much messed up his back and caused him to miss several races in the 2013 season.

In 2015, Kyle Busch hit an inside wall at Daytona during an Xfinity race, another part of the track that did not have a SAFER barrier. Kyle Busch suffered massive compound fracture in the lower right leg and a small fracture in the left foot..

Now in March 1st, 2015. Jeff Gordon hit another part of the wall at Atlanta that did not have a SAFER barrier, but thankfully he escaped the crash uninjured.

So my question is, what the **** is it going to take for NASCAR to mandate SAFER barriers on all the walls? Is another driver going to have to die like Earnhardt Sr. did before they make that change?
 
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They just need to nut up and put the barriers on every wall. I can't believe we are having this conversation 14 ******* years after NASCAR was forced to act after Dale Sr passed. They promote the safety advances so much, while half assing it at the same time.

Even DW said it as Gordon hit the concrete..."not again!"
 
Kyle18fan said:
Lets hope it doesnt take something that serious, its obviously a money issue and apparently nobody wants to foot the bill, I can understand that but there has to be an answer
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Maybe they can do a Kickstarter?
 
SpeedPagan said:
The France family has billions of dollars at their disposal, I'm sure they can release a few millions to fix the SAFER barrier issue.
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But it's up to each track to install them, not NASCAR. Maybe NASCAR will mandate this be taken care of soon. But several of the France family owned tracks will have to do the same.
 
MRM said:
But it's up to each track to install them, not NASCAR. Maybe NASCAR will mandate this be taken care of soon. But several of the France family owned tracks will have to do the same.
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Make it simple, either put the barriers on all wall surface of the track or lose your race date for 2015 and every following seasons til the walls are installed.
 
Not sure why they didnt have at least tires there but maybe Charlotte didn't have any more (Atlanta asked to borrow them from CMS iirc). By the time we roll around to Daytona in July, tracks have had plenty of time to install barriers where they need them and hopefully tracks follow through. I think every ISC already had that in mind and SMI got a wake up call today.
 
JEB said:
Even DW said it as Gordon hit the concrete..."not again!"
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Pretty sure DW's "not again" comment was about Gordon getting wrecked late in the race like he did last week at Daytona.

Regardless, barriers need installed on every wall of every track. I'm sure it will happen with the way the season has started and the uproar that has been caused.
 
Gordon blasts Atlanta track after hitting wall with no SAFER barrier
http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/sto...way-safer-barrier-hendrick-motorsports-030115

It's a damn shame. Glad big pappa came out seemingly unhurt. He's a tough guy so he will probably never show the extent of how much that impact had to hurt.

NASCAR and some of these tracks have been sitting on their hands doing the bare minimum just to say they "did something" about it. After Kyle's imjuries at Daytona and Gordon's impact earlier today I think race tracks around America are way overdue on installing SAFER barriers 100% of the way around their speedways.
 
Maybe after last week Atlanta has plans to add barriers? I dunno, but they can't install them in just a weeks time.
 
Bobw said:
Atlanta claims they added 130 of some sort of barrier to protect drivers from hitting concrete walls. Where?
Jeff had absolutely no problem finding where they DIDN'T install it.
I'm really surprised he didn't go all spider monkey on crack on nascars ass
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I doubt Jeff wanted to blast a track that he made his last appearance at and had given him a bunch of swag.
 
This is BS that there are unprotected barriers at any track. These guys put themselves at enough risk without having some track worrying about saving money. If I was a driver I'd be starting a movement, no barriers covering every bit of wall, no race. If there's an open spot a car will find it.
 
breatheoflife said:
Maybe after last week Atlanta has plans to add barriers? I dunno, but they can't install them in just a weeks time.
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A weeks time? Every track has had over a decade to put up SAFER barriers all the way around the track but decided not to based on money & statistics.

Pushing human saftey to the wayside in place of money and statistics. What an utter disgrace.
 
I was appalled by the lack of some sort of temporary barrier on the inside of turn four. They put up some tire barriers on a different wall near the entry to pit road but it probably wasn't more than twenty yards' worth.
 
Somehow, Daytona was able to install tire barriers overnight after Kyle Busch hit the inside wall. Atlanta had an entire week to ensure all concrete walls facing the track had some form of "soft wall" technology in place, yet they couldn't get it done. I dunno, perhaps in the entire state of Georgia, there weren't enough used tires and cable to accomplish the task... Or, could it be, management at the Atlanta track chose to roll the dice and gamble a driver wouldn't hit the hard wall? The problem is, their ante was someone else's life.

It would be kinda interesting to listen as Atlanta's track management tries to justify NOT installing some type of soft barrier.

Dale Earnhart Senior's death pushed NASCAR into mandating improved safety rules... I truly hope it's not going to take another driver's death to give NASCAR another shove, forcing them into mandating this "no brainer" safety component.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
A weeks time? Every track has had over a decade to put up SAFER barriers all the way around the track but decided not to based on money & statistics.

Pushing human saftey to the wayside in place of money and statistics. What an utter disgrace.
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I'm talking moreso after the uproar after last weeks event.
 
Zeck said:
but Jeff is fine and he barely just missed the soft wall, I'm sure it'll be fixed next year, I don't think hell needs to be raised.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Would you have the same tone if Jeff had been injured? NASCAR needs to stop being so f**** reactive with this issue and PREVENT these crashes from occurring. Hell absolutely needs to be raised before we lose another driver.
 
Good that Gordon is Ok, also good to see a bit of that spider monkey on crack come out in his comments..
Maybe it's time for another ''strike'', like the one over tires shredding at Talladega in 1969.
Unless every inch of retaining wall is covered with SAFER barrier or even low tech tire barriers drivers don't go on the track.
Brain talks but nothing will get done until............

http://articles.dailypress.com/1992...154_1_shredded-tires-firestone-tire-tiny-lund
 
Zeck said:
I dont remember where they added tire barriers but Jeff is fine and he barely just missed the soft wall, I'm sure it'll be fixed next year, I don't think hell needs to be raised.
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Thats the problem to begin with.
 
Glad Jeff is OK, it looked for a minute there like his farewell tour was gonna be over before it even began. But c'mon NASCAR, you just got over $8 billion in TV money, a lot of which goes to the tracks. You guys can't work together and spend the money to make sure these tracks are safe ALL THE WAY around?
 
Bobw said:
Wasn't a troll. Quit looking to find fault. BTW, as I said it wasn't a troll but it caught you didn't it?
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I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to post 3 which was above my post. Stay away from me.
 
What we need to do is to quick blowing track owners and NASCAR for installing stuff after the fact, and start demanding vision instead of reaction. I do not want to see any driver get hurt (although some of them piss me off) EVER. As a season ticket holder at Auto Club Speedway, I have sent multiple e-mails to track officials demanding a drivers' safety audit, and have told them if a single driver gets hurt again due to an unprotected wall, I will not return. Do they give a ****? Probably not, but at least I am doing my part.
 
Nascar is on it! See below.

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Brad Keselowski @keselowski Safety in racing is a tough subject. Racing is dangerous and always will be. I accept my own risk every week.

@keselowski As a professional in an entertainment sport, it is all drivers responsibility to take safety seriously as our decisions transcend our level.
 
@keselowski Simple safety measures like the HANS device have saved lives at the lower levels and they are made possible by the works of those at the top
 
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