Scheduled changes, 3 tracks loses? 3 gain dates?

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SPEED's Bob Dillner reported on the July 11th SPEED Report that rumors have Auto Club Speedway, New Hampshire Motor Speedway and Atlanta Motor Speedway with second race dates going to Las Vegas Motor Speedway and Kansas Speedway and Kentucky Speedway getting a Sprint Cup race. No word how this will shake up the Sprint Cup schedule, can be figured out a few different ways. Look for Atlanta Motor Speedway to keep it's Labor Day weekend date and doubtful Las Vegas would get a summer date with the heat there.
 
But Atlanta's spring date is two weeks after Las Vegas, and it's way too cold to race in Kentucky in March.. :confused:

They're really going to have to shuffle the schedule around to make all this work.
 
Rumor has it that Homestead will be moved to March and another track will host the finale. Vegas will either host the start of the Chase or the end.
 
MRM said:
Rumor has it that Homestead will be moved to March and another track will host the finale. Vegas will either host the start of the Chase or the end.
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Sorry, I can't support that. I don't think Vegas should get the awards ceremony AND two Cup races. Homestead's one of the best races in the Chase, not to mention the season should start and end in Florida. Moving the final race of the year to the west coast will further alienate NASCAR's core fanbase.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Sorry, I can't support that. I don't think Vegas should get the awards ceremony AND two Cup races. Homestead's one of the best races in the Chase, not to mention the season should start and end in Florida. Moving the final race of the year to the west coast will further alienate NASCAR's core fanbase.
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It's not like Homestead has been a long standing tradition by any means. Only about 10 years or so, if I'm not mistaken. Before that, I think it was Atlanta that the season ended at. I don't know why that would upset so many fans. :confused: I'd be all for it ending at Daytona on the road course though. That would be cool IMO. As far as Vegas and the award ceremony..... Maybe it makes sense to have the last week of the season and the awards ceremony be held in the same town. Kinda like the Nationwide Series does now.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
It's not like Homestead has been a long standing tradition by any means. Only about 10 years or so, if I'm not mistaken. Before that, I think it was Atlanta that the season ended at. I don't know why that would upset so many fans. :confused: I'd be all for it ending at Daytona on the road course though. That would be cool IMO. As far as Vegas and the award ceremony..... Maybe it makes sense to have the last week of the season and the awards ceremony be held in the same town. Kinda like the Nationwide Series does now.
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The awards ceremony and the final race in Cup are weeks apart. I think Vegas was a good show for the Awards Ceremony last year, but I'd rather see the season finale in Homestead. For one, the racing at H-MS is much better than boring ass Vegas; two, the sport's core fanbase is on the east coast.

Also, Homestead and Atlanta are totally different. The fans show up to Homestead every year, why should they be punished with losing the well-placed season finale? They move Homestead to March and there's nothing special about it, it's just another race.

I don't know, I guess I'm still bitter about Rockingham and The Southern 500 being shipped off to the left coast so they won't show up and support their tracks.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
The awards ceremony and the final race in Cup are weeks apart. I think Vegas was a good show for the Awards Ceremony last year, but I'd rather see the season finale in Homestead. For one, the racing at H-MS is much better than boring ass Vegas; two, the sport's core fanbase is on the east coast.

Also, Homestead and Atlanta are totally different. The fans show up to Homestead every year, why should they be punished with losing the well-placed season finale? They move Homestead to March and there's nothing special about it, it's just another race.

I don't know, I guess I'm still bitter about Rockingham and The Southern 500 being shipped off to the left coast so they won't show up and support their tracks.
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The separation of weeks between the awards ceremony and the final race is not new to me. All I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be. They could have the final race and awards ceremony the same weekend. Seems to me that it would be doable.

My mention of Atlanta was nothing more than to say that the final race has been held elsewhere. Personally, I could care less where they hold the final race. I know I wouldn't feel slighted by NASCAR if they move it out west.

I agree on Rockingham and the Southern 500 @ Darlington. Two great losses IMO.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I agree on Rockingham and the Southern 500 @ Darlington. Two great losses IMO.
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Especially since the left coast fans can't appreciate the gifts NASCAR gave them (at everyone else's expense).

Where does it end though? What's next? Season opener at Fontana?

Besides, there are a lot of other places that should get their first date before Vegas and Kansas get second dates. Nashville, Iowa and the street course in Montreal would all be great additions.

Even more bull**** that Loudon (which sells out every race) is possibly gonna lose a date so Kansas (which doesn't sell out every race) can get a second date.

Not too upset about Atlanta, the spring race there hasn't done well in a very long time. Keep the Labor Day Classic in Atlanta though.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Also, Homestead and Atlanta are totally different. The fans show up to Homestead every year, why should they be punished with losing the well-placed season finale? They move Homestead to March and there's nothing special about it, it's just another race.


My guess is that if it were a close points battle, any track on the circuit, with the exception of California ,would sell out.
I wonder how dedicated the homestead fans would be if it were a May race, with nothing at stake but a win.?
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MoMike said:
My guess is that if it were a close points battle, any track on the circuit, with the exception of California ,would sell out.
I wonder how dedicated the homestead fans would be if it were a May race, with nothing at stake but a win.?
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Jimmie's had the title wrapped up the past two season when they got to Homestead (needed to basically crash in order to lose) -- that hasn't stopped them from showing up.

I'd freakin' laugh if Homestead sold out in March and Vegas didn't sell out the finale. :XXROFL:
 
And still they keep that stupid non points race at Charlotte . As you fans keep losing races at your favorite tracks, ask Nascar why that stupid race keeps a week end. Does Humpy have the final say in everything?
 
From what I heard, Homestead may move out of the final race slot because most fans cannot get to that track without traveling a great distance of flying down for the race.

Vegas will probably get the start of the Chase, not the end. Sorry if my earlier post read that way.

What you could see early in the year is Daytona, Homestead, Vegas, then Phoenix.
 
MRM said:
From what I heard, Homestead may move out of the final race slot because most fans cannot get to that track without traveling a great distance of flying down for the race.

Vegas will probably get the start of the Chase, not the end. Sorry if my earlier post read that way.

What you could see early in the year is Daytona, Homestead, Vegas, then Phoenix.
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Then who would get the finale? Phoenix?
 
de7xwcc said:
start in Daytona finish in Daytona give the july race to another track say Rockingham or Darlington
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I like it, 4th of July in Miami and run Daytona in February and November.

They did run the night race at Daytona in October back in 1998 because of the wildfires in Florida that year. In fact, that was the week after Talladega in 1998 -- Restrictor plate races in back-to-back weekends of NASCAR racing.

Loudon would be an interesting finale to, anyone remember the 2001 race at Loudon (held in November because of 9/11)? Robby Gordon to the back of Jeff Gordon, Jeff retaliates under caution, gets penalized, Robby wins!!!
 
The schedule should be:
Daytona
Phoenix
Las Vegas
Atlanta
Bristol
Texas(split up the short tracks)
Martinsville
Gateway
Talladega
Richmond
Darlington
Dover
Charlotte
Iowa
Michigan
Sonoma
New Hampshire
Daytona
Chicagoland
Indianapolis
Pocono
Watkins Glen
Michigan
Bristol
Kentucky
Richmond

CHASE:
New Hampshire
Nashville
Dover
Kansas
Fontana
Charlotte
Martinsville
Talladega
Phoenix
Homestead
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I know that. Riverside is different though, the locals actually showed up and supported that track.
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Which kind of supports an argument I've had with NASCAR anyway. Guess what, no televised events back then. There's such a glutton of race coverage on right now, why bother going? Sure, I like to see televised races (especailly after years of not having that luxury), but eb=nough is enough! I really think that oversaturation has played a large part in the dwindling audience.
 
I think thats malarkey, when you consider that while crowds for the big 4 are down, they are still strong despite all professional games are being televised.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
SPEED's Bob Dillner reported on the July 11th SPEED Report that rumors have Auto Club Speedway, New Hampshire Motor Speedway and Atlanta Motor Speedway with second race dates going to Las Vegas Motor Speedway and Kansas Speedway and Kentucky Speedway getting a Sprint Cup race. No word how this will shake up the Sprint Cup schedule, can be figured out a few different ways. Look for Atlanta Motor Speedway to keep it's Labor Day weekend date and doubtful Las Vegas would get a summer date with the heat there.
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That is good news if it comes true. I say give Vegas the finale, keep Labor day in a Atlanta, Kentucky a New Hampshire June date.
 
de7xwcc said:
start in Daytona finish in Daytona give the july race to another track say Rockingham or Darlington
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I like that idea, give Kentucky the July 4th race, finish at Daytona. Kansas getting another date kind of baffles me. I know they are building a Casino there, but so what....IMO the track doesn't have much character.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I like it, 4th of July in Miami and run Daytona in February and November.

They did run the night race at Daytona in October back in 1998 because of the wildfires in Florida that year. In fact, that was the week after Talladega in 1998 -- Restrictor plate races in back-to-back weekends of NASCAR racing.

Loudon would be an interesting finale to, anyone remember the 2001 race at Loudon (held in November because of 9/11)? Robby Gordon to the back of Jeff Gordon, Jeff retaliates under caution, gets penalized, Robby wins!!!
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You can't be serious .....it snows there in November, they got lucky in 2001, not a good track to have your final at.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Especially since the left coast fans can't appreciate the gifts NASCAR gave them (at everyone else's expense).

Where does it end though? What's next? Season opener at Fontana?

Besides, there are a lot of other places that should get their first date before Vegas and Kansas get second dates. Nashville, Iowa and the street course in Montreal would all be great additions.

Even more bull**** that Loudon (which sells out every race) is possibly gonna lose a date so Kansas (which doesn't sell out every race) can get a second date.

Not too upset about Atlanta, the spring race there hasn't done well in a very long time. Keep the Labor Day Classic in Atlanta though.
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Last year was the first year kansas did not sellout and I been going every year since it has opened now I was'nt too happy when i found out it was going to be a cookie cutter track but oh well.
 
Kansas doesnt need a 2nd date though. There are several tracks out there that need a date, why give a 2nd one to a track that isnt overly popular in the first place?
 
More on possible changes to the schedule.....

NASCAR's 2011 Sprint Cup schedule is expected to have a considerably different look next season, including the site of the season finale. Some changes are expected in response to requests from major track owners International Speedway Corp. and Speedway Motorsports Inc., but several other race dates are believed to be in play. Several sources told the Observer and ThatsRacin.com on Sunday that changes being contemplated include the season's final race, now held at Miami-Homestead. That ISC-owned track could get the second race of the 2011 season. Auto Club Speedway currently occupies that spot on the schedule. The sources said two tracks figure in the options being considered to replace Homestead as host of the season's final race weekend: Las Vegas and Daytona. A Las Vegas finale could make it more convenient for fans, teams, media and others to attend NASCAR's season-ending awards events. Those events, held in New York City for years, moved to the desert gambling-and-resort city for the first time last year. A season finale at Daytona would add a second restrictor-plate race to the Chase for the Sprint Cup.
 
I'd rather see the final Cup race of the year in Daytona where they start the season. But who would get the 4th of July race?
 
I can't imagine them ever making Daytona the final race of the season. I think it would be great but I can't see it happening.
 
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