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That's a pretty harsh assessment. It will be interesting to see how well he does at Martinsville.
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Andy, this looks like an article that you probably wrote. Seems to me that you were on Scott's bandwagon at the beginning of the year. Oh, and what about all those female drivers that you hyped? Scott is only the product of today's Cup. It wasn't that long ago that a young man such as him would not even think about stepping into a competitive Cup car right out of the box. It took years of seat time before he would be offered anything that would be competitive. Now, those hot shoes that are offered a Cup ride early in their carreers are more like prima donas. We'll see how well he does when he's actually in a Cup race.
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Digger
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I can't claim credit for this artistic piece of writing.
I like Scott Speed.
I don't like his nose-in-the-air attitude he has at ARCA. I just don't think he realizes "these ARCA guys" don't have multi-million dollar sponsorships and racecars being built by mega NASCAR teams like he does.
I don't know about Chrissy. She is running Trucks full-time next season. Alli's running ARCA full-time next season. She had top ten runs mounting in Pocono, Nashville, Chicago and New Jersey before getting taken out in crashes not of her doing. She's moving to the dark side (Toyota) so maybe good things are coming. Gabi's also had fantastic runs just to get swept up in accidents not of her causing.
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PettyBlue
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Speed did have a top ten (7th) in today's truck race.
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Digger
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After all the comments he made this season and his antics at DuQuoin, he better be Sliced Bread 2 or his career is going to be short lived.
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steveluvs3
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Wow he set the race on fire with that 30th place finish
He might not have lighted a fire, but he did finish all 500 laps -- and with an undamaged car. That's not bad for a newbie.
wilson89
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He was 7 laps down.
OK --- he finished 493 laps with an undamaged car. 
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steveluvs3
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and AJ with a 15th, nice move there red bull but they may of did AJ a favor.
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Digger
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So, is that still "just ARCA" to you Mr. Speed?
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Eagle1
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I thought Speed did a pretty good job staying out of the way and gained valuable seat time.
IMHO, Speed is no LESS ready for NASCARs upper series than Ricky Stenhouse (sp) his actions were just as blatent as Scott's. But then again, just my opinion.
IMHO, Speed is no LESS ready for NASCARs upper series than Ricky Stenhouse (sp) his actions were just as blatent as Scott's. But then again, just my opinion.
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Agreed 100%.
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uncleD
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An interesting collection of published quotes from Scott Speed just following his ARCA departure.
Hartford Courant 10/17/08
Speed said he earned valuable "street cred" with the move.
"Straight out of 'Days of Thunder,' I just said, 'Change my tires. Just put the tires on it and let me go out and try it,'" Speed said, ala Cole Trickle. "I went out for a lap and a half until the [ Stenhouse] was in our presence. And I did to him what he did to me. From my perspective, I was the championship leader and he disrespected me on the track so there was no way I was going to let him win a championship like that."
The Virginian-Pilot 10/17/08
Speed entered the final race leading in points. Ricky Stenhouse Jr., a development driver for Roush Fenway Racing, was second. During the race, Stenhouse hit the back of Speed's car and Speed crashed. Speed insists the contact was intentional.
He returned after a quick pit stop and sent Stenhouse into the wall. ARCA officials parked Speed for the rest of the race.
Speed offers no apologies.
"I went out there and made a point to everyone," he said. "That's not how you race. If I do nothing about that, all of a sudden, I have a sign that says, "OK, you can mess around with Scott Speed.' "
Just because Speed does things differently - "He doesn't really want to conform," his dad said - doesn't mean he ignores the racer's code when it comes to paybacks.
"Every decision I make on the track, normally I have a reason for it," Speed said, "and, honestly, normally I'm right."
The Canadian Press 10/16/08
"You can't fix stupid," Speed said. "(Stenhouse) obviously wanted the championship very badly. He was not going to win it like that. That's just ridiculous. I did my best to make sure he didn't win it. It's as simple as that."
Speed's nonchalance for the ARCA season title riled some, and he couldn't care less. While appreciative of the ARCA experience, Speed considered the series just a necessary step toward his ultimate goal - Cup racing.
"The ARCA Series helped me prepare for the trucks," Speed said. "But because (ARCA) is such an amateur series, the competition level and the equipment level is lower. . . . I've said since the beginning I could care less about winning."
In a way, the same goes for Cup racing, at least for now. Although Speed thinks he's made significant strides in ARCA and the trucks, he's only been in stock cars for a year. There are plenty of lessons still to be learned, and the adjustment period could get bumpy.
"It's like being a sketch artist and trying to paint on canvas," he said. "I'll never be as good at stock car racing as I was at open wheel. I still consider myself one of the best open-wheel drivers in the world. I doubt I'll ever beat Jimmie Johnson ... but I think I'm going to try and push him."
"I'm going to try as hard as I can to keep that thing in the Top 35," he said. "There's a lot of stuff going on right now with the Chase and some guys that we don't need to get in the middle of."
The Modesto Bee 10/16/2008
When Scott Speed joined the NASCAR ranks, many friends were impressed.
"You're going to be huge," he remembers them saying when congratulating him for making it to "The Big Time."
The Manteca native just laughs and shakes his head. He knows they mean well, but they have no idea that NASCAR isn't the be-all and end-all in motor sports.
"I'm accomplished in my mind," Speed said. "I was successful in Formula One. I was the first American to do that since Mario Andretti. That is the pinnacle of motor sports."
Culturally, Speed said he's definitely more accepted in the United States. The racing is different, but he appreciates the attention in the U.S.
"Everyone here likes me," he said. "No one is giving me crap, especially the media, no matter what happens. The English people didn't like me at all. No American gets support at all."
The Auto Channel 10/14/2008
"From my perspective, the guy chasing me in the championship ran me off the track, and I was in the position to win the championship," Speed said. "Therefore, I'm not going to let him win the championship when he acts like that."
"I'm not the type of person to get upset about the things I can't control," Speed said. "I can't control a guy in second place running me off the track. I still feel I made the right decision by doing what I did."
Scott Speed: "If I hadn't gone out and done what I did to the 99 (Ricky Stenhouse Jr.), then I may as well wear a sign that says, 'Hey, everyone. You can mess around with Scott Speed.' It's like me racing in Cup this weekend in Martinsville. If Jeff Gordon comes along and moves me out of the way, I know better than to go back at him and try to run him off the track. I think about those things."
NASCAR Examiner 10/13/2008
"He was on my bumper and he pushed me flat out until I hit the wall," Speed said. "And then the car was un-drivable. It was so bad from hitting the wall. I couldn't do anything with it. He started it ... he ain't going to win this championship with that attitude. Honestly, it's just ARCA, that's just how it is."
Scott Speed is what the media made him, and like everything else, not any part of his fault. And now, so quickly, all the brilliance and dazzle that had the ARCA media shine-blinded this season fades away leaving them to face the truth, a large pile of bull....
Hartford Courant 10/17/08
Speed said he earned valuable "street cred" with the move.
"Straight out of 'Days of Thunder,' I just said, 'Change my tires. Just put the tires on it and let me go out and try it,'" Speed said, ala Cole Trickle. "I went out for a lap and a half until the [ Stenhouse] was in our presence. And I did to him what he did to me. From my perspective, I was the championship leader and he disrespected me on the track so there was no way I was going to let him win a championship like that."
The Virginian-Pilot 10/17/08
Speed entered the final race leading in points. Ricky Stenhouse Jr., a development driver for Roush Fenway Racing, was second. During the race, Stenhouse hit the back of Speed's car and Speed crashed. Speed insists the contact was intentional.
He returned after a quick pit stop and sent Stenhouse into the wall. ARCA officials parked Speed for the rest of the race.
Speed offers no apologies.
"I went out there and made a point to everyone," he said. "That's not how you race. If I do nothing about that, all of a sudden, I have a sign that says, "OK, you can mess around with Scott Speed.' "
Just because Speed does things differently - "He doesn't really want to conform," his dad said - doesn't mean he ignores the racer's code when it comes to paybacks.
"Every decision I make on the track, normally I have a reason for it," Speed said, "and, honestly, normally I'm right."
The Canadian Press 10/16/08
"You can't fix stupid," Speed said. "(Stenhouse) obviously wanted the championship very badly. He was not going to win it like that. That's just ridiculous. I did my best to make sure he didn't win it. It's as simple as that."
Speed's nonchalance for the ARCA season title riled some, and he couldn't care less. While appreciative of the ARCA experience, Speed considered the series just a necessary step toward his ultimate goal - Cup racing.
"The ARCA Series helped me prepare for the trucks," Speed said. "But because (ARCA) is such an amateur series, the competition level and the equipment level is lower. . . . I've said since the beginning I could care less about winning."
In a way, the same goes for Cup racing, at least for now. Although Speed thinks he's made significant strides in ARCA and the trucks, he's only been in stock cars for a year. There are plenty of lessons still to be learned, and the adjustment period could get bumpy.
"It's like being a sketch artist and trying to paint on canvas," he said. "I'll never be as good at stock car racing as I was at open wheel. I still consider myself one of the best open-wheel drivers in the world. I doubt I'll ever beat Jimmie Johnson ... but I think I'm going to try and push him."
"I'm going to try as hard as I can to keep that thing in the Top 35," he said. "There's a lot of stuff going on right now with the Chase and some guys that we don't need to get in the middle of."
The Modesto Bee 10/16/2008
When Scott Speed joined the NASCAR ranks, many friends were impressed.
"You're going to be huge," he remembers them saying when congratulating him for making it to "The Big Time."
The Manteca native just laughs and shakes his head. He knows they mean well, but they have no idea that NASCAR isn't the be-all and end-all in motor sports.
"I'm accomplished in my mind," Speed said. "I was successful in Formula One. I was the first American to do that since Mario Andretti. That is the pinnacle of motor sports."
Culturally, Speed said he's definitely more accepted in the United States. The racing is different, but he appreciates the attention in the U.S.
"Everyone here likes me," he said. "No one is giving me crap, especially the media, no matter what happens. The English people didn't like me at all. No American gets support at all."
The Auto Channel 10/14/2008
"From my perspective, the guy chasing me in the championship ran me off the track, and I was in the position to win the championship," Speed said. "Therefore, I'm not going to let him win the championship when he acts like that."
"I'm not the type of person to get upset about the things I can't control," Speed said. "I can't control a guy in second place running me off the track. I still feel I made the right decision by doing what I did."
Scott Speed: "If I hadn't gone out and done what I did to the 99 (Ricky Stenhouse Jr.), then I may as well wear a sign that says, 'Hey, everyone. You can mess around with Scott Speed.' It's like me racing in Cup this weekend in Martinsville. If Jeff Gordon comes along and moves me out of the way, I know better than to go back at him and try to run him off the track. I think about those things."
NASCAR Examiner 10/13/2008
"He was on my bumper and he pushed me flat out until I hit the wall," Speed said. "And then the car was un-drivable. It was so bad from hitting the wall. I couldn't do anything with it. He started it ... he ain't going to win this championship with that attitude. Honestly, it's just ARCA, that's just how it is."
Scott Speed is what the media made him, and like everything else, not any part of his fault. And now, so quickly, all the brilliance and dazzle that had the ARCA media shine-blinded this season fades away leaving them to face the truth, a large pile of bull....
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basscatcher89
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You know after reading the first couple quotes, speed did right by making sure stenhouse didnt win the championship like that. It sure looked bad on tv, but behind the wheel it was probably right. Though he could have done it some way that would have atleast let himself keep going.
Jimmy Mars said it in an interview on tv for a dlm race. "If a guy is going to take me out to ruin my chances to make a check, I am going to make sure his chances are ruined as well." If you aint gonna respect your competitors and your not getting anywhere.
But the whole thing turned out for the best, the right driver won it
Jimmy Mars said it in an interview on tv for a dlm race. "If a guy is going to take me out to ruin my chances to make a check, I am going to make sure his chances are ruined as well." If you aint gonna respect your competitors and your not getting anywhere.
But the whole thing turned out for the best, the right driver won it
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uncleD
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Ricky Stenhouse has never said he was ready for NASCARs upper series. "Trying to learn as much as I can" as stated.
Since the Toledo race stories circulated, I've yet to see, in print, an accurate quote of Ricky Stenhouse's reply. He spoke to SPEEDtv while sitting in his car during repairs and spoke during a post race interview on SPEEDtv's WInd Tunnel. From the beginning, his statement was the rumble strips in turn 1 & 2 chattered the front brake pads, and said, quote "I got to the brakes and they weren't there. I had to pump them up a couple of times". There's not one report that states Ricky's reply has come close to writing what he said, further twisting the story.
The days following, I read alot of race reports, it seemed most writer's "Race Reports" are amended copies of someone's previous race report. To bad, because it's so easy to buffa, uhh, red bullski those that did see or hear the events for themselves. I guess creative written fell off the same mountain that unbiased, (fair and balanced) reporting fell off. Both are long gone!
VaDirt
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You're right, I don't think I've ever seen anything in regards to Stenhouse other than his "no brakes" claim. But anyone who saw that race and that wreck knows that the lack of brakes didn't cause it. Lifting the throttle will slow you down too, and it was pretty obvious he didn't let off the gas.
Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what Speed can accomplish in Cup, and if he can do anything in the Red Bull car.
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Digger
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Stenhouse said having no brakes caused him to hit the rumble strips and that shot his car up the track.
Typical Roush driver, he says none of it was intentional even though several of the ARCA drivers and crew members heard him saying all weekend he was going to wreck Scott Speed.
If - and I'm not sure if it is true or not - but if this is true that he said all weekend he was going to take Scott Speed out, well he did and he got exactly what he deserved from it. You don't ever go into a race with the sole intention of wrecking someone.
And I'm surprised Jack Roush kept him after that - okay no I'm not.
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Yeah well when he gets to Cup I'd love to see him do that Lil'E to keep him from winning a championship. No really, I'd love to see anyone keep Lil'E from winning a championship. But as long as Lil'E has my secret weapon Eury Jr...but I digress.
Can't you see Speed taking out a Chase driver with that kind of attitude...
Can't you see Speed taking out a Chase driver with that kind of attitude...
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uncleD
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Stenhouse said having no brakes caused him to hit the rumble strips and that shot his car up the track.
Typical Roush driver, he says none of it was intentional even though several of the ARCA drivers and crew members heard him saying all weekend he was going to wreck Scott Speed.
If - and I'm not sure if it is true or not - but if this is true that he said all weekend he was going to take Scott Speed out, well he did and he got exactly what he deserved from it. You don't ever go into a race with the sole intention of wrecking someone.
And I'm surprised Jack Roush kept him after that - okay no I'm not.
Andy, slow down and catch your breath. And be careful, you eyes could get stuck back like that.
You latest post has me thinking that you also, didn't hear the SPEEDtv in-car interview or any spoken words of Ricky's Stenhouse as to his say. The "Rumble strips shot car up race track" is someone's make believe, hearsay. Just because others have taking it to print this slight twist as to what Ricky said, does NOT make it real and true. And the "several ARCA drivers and crew members heard Ricky saying all weekend" BS. Is there several sources to that, not several but just one single source outside of Speedo the Clown that can corroborate this rumor. Even you say you don't know!
Sir, I could start calling you names and labeling you in ways that is less than flattering to you, but I don't know you, so I don't.
I don't ask for you change you opinion, only ask you to try to be a bit more accurate in your reporting. The "Copy and paste" reporting technique does not have to be the norm.
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uncleD, I see by your profile that you are a very recent joiner of our little corner of heaven. After you've been here a while you'll get to know Andy and see that he complains about everything, Nascar, TV broadcasters, the weather, you name it. But, you'll also realize that if you stop to argue with him, well let's just reference the Mark Twain quote here about arguing and move on. But, to keep up a convo with Andy is like feeding stray cats...
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carsntunes
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Scott Speed, media whore. He knows just the right things to say to the right people. He's another Robby Gordon. Do we really need two of them???
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Digger
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My information about Stenhouse comes from several sources. In fact, the majority concensus inside the ARCA garage before the race was that Scott Speed was going to get turned.
If you watched the race, you'd realize it was more than one incident. Right from the start of the race, Stenhouse was all over Speed's back bumper. They had made a deal under caution for Stenhouse to go around Speed on the outside on the restart without sending Speed up the track and causing him to wreck. Instead of making a clean pass, Stenhouse ran over him. And, if you watched the race from lap 1 and saw all the contact made Stenhouse made before then, you'd see that wreck was about as intentional as it gets.
I'm happy Speed took Stenhouse out because it led to ARCA vet Justin Allgaier winning the championship.
The concensus with just about everyone inside ARCA is that Stenhouse not just purposely wrecked Speed but that he went into that race with the intent to wreck Scott Speed as it would be the only way he could've won the championship.
Stenhouse messed with the bull (no pun intended) and he got the horns.
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uncleD
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Thanks Mr Marquis,
I'll take back everything that I've said. If I've gone over the line please accept my apology.
I've been out matched, you have crashed, uhh, crushed me with facts. Hard facts, solid, clear, pure and truthful. Dude, you have connections with just about everyone inside ARCA. And a direct line with the majority of the ARCA garage. Sir, I hide under my desk waving my white flag, you must be what you say.
Any way you can help me get an autographed Gabi DiCarlo's hero card?
I know you're busy, but please?
No Horns, just words of a Real American Hero to close with....
"You can't fix stupid" Speedo the Clown
I'll take back everything that I've said. If I've gone over the line please accept my apology.
I've been out matched, you have crashed, uhh, crushed me with facts. Hard facts, solid, clear, pure and truthful. Dude, you have connections with just about everyone inside ARCA. And a direct line with the majority of the ARCA garage. Sir, I hide under my desk waving my white flag, you must be what you say.
Any way you can help me get an autographed Gabi DiCarlo's hero card?
I know you're busy, but please?
No Horns, just words of a Real American Hero to close with....
"You can't fix stupid" Speedo the Clown
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Digger
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I know you're not a Scott Speed fan - and I definently don't like that he went back out there to take out Stenhouse. But, Stenhouse went into the race, from what the majority of ARCA has said, with the intent to wreck Speed.
It's quite pitiful, actually, that those guys went out there and turned a championship race in a professional racing series into a demolition derby with their childish antics.
Both of them.
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Digger
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This has been my complaint about Speed.
I think he took one of those shots at "these ARCA guys" in New Jersey Motorsports Park.
To quote Darrell Basham, "It's not 'just ARCA.' It's ARCA."
You don't hear people like Kyle Petty or Justin Allgaier or Ken Schrader trashing ARCA that way. And you never heard Benny Parsons says "it's just ARCA."
Many great racecar drivers have made very successful names for themselves in ARCA. I think Frank Kimmel was selected to run in the International Race of Champions series one season because of winning an ARCA championship.
I don't know how the F1 world views ARCA over in Europe and Asia and I don't give two ****s here. ARCA is a very respected and very well established racing series so Scott Speed can say it's just ARCA but Scott Speed doesn't realize its significance in the racing world.
I bet if he was running in the car Jason Basham was driving, he wouldn't have had that success.
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SlowNeasy
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I may have to start paying more attention to Speed now. Robby Gordon fan
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
uncleD, just to elaborate a little more about what bp said about our genius here at R/F, one Mr. Andy Marquis, just let him babble. He says he's about 20 years old, but we believe he is more like 15 or 16. Still lives with his folks and complains that they don't do enough for him. He says he's an expert on everything with an emphasis on racing and proclaims that ARCA is the pinacle of stock car racing and if you don't like straight line racing, you aren't a race fan. As my buddy bp says, just stick around and watch him stick his foot in his mouth. He does it all the time and we all laugh at him. BUT, we all love him.
Just remember, if you want to know anything about anything, just ask Andy.
Just remember, if you want to know anything about anything, just ask Andy.
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Digger
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I live on my own actually in PG County.uncleD, just to elaborate a little more about what bp said about our genius here at R/F, one Mr. Andy Marquis, just let him babble. He says he's about 20 years old, but we believe he is more like 15 or 16. Still lives with his folks and complains that they don't do enough for him. He says he's an expert on everything with an emphasis on racing and proclaims that ARCA is the pinacle of stock car racing and if you don't like straight line racing, you aren't a race fan. As my buddy bp says, just stick around and watch him stick his foot in his mouth. He does it all the time and we all laugh at him. BUT, we all love him.
Just remember, if you want to know anything about anything, just ask Andy.
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Yeah, Buck you must have missed it when Andy move out of the basement of his parents home. Problem he has now is he doesn't get to watch the races if they're on a cable channel.
But, you'll notice he didn't correct you on anything else...
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Digger
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Yeah, Buck you must have missed it when Andy move out of the basement of his parents home. Problem he has now is he doesn't get to watch the races if they're on a cable channel.
But, you'll notice he didn't correct you on anything else...
I do go out of my way to watch the ARCA races - except the ones on MavTV.
I never said anyone who doesn't watch ARCA isn't a real race fan. I've said I think Drag Racing and ARCA are the most exciting forms of racing out there right now. IndyCar can be exciting as well, I just don't like ICS ever since they swallowed up ChampCar.
Just look at the facts - the IHRA Motorsports NitroJam and ARCA Re/Max Series championships went down to the final race without a stupid playoff system. IHRA Pro Stock, the top 2 were seperated by 8 points.
NASCAR couldn't dream of a season finale like the one ARCA had.
buckaroo
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Yeah, Buck you must have missed it when Andy move out of the basement of his parents home. Problem he has now is he doesn't get to watch the races if they're on a cable channel.
But, you'll notice he didn't correct you on anything else...
Ya'but, you know that he doesn't know the truth from lies. Maybe moving from the basement to the upstairs was his real move.
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ARCA Thunder tore the writer of this "asinine drivel" a new esswhole over not signing their name.
I wonder, was our buddy uncleD the grand architecht of this article?