Shane van Gisbergen is the greatest talent to arrive in NASCAR . . .

Charlie Spencer said:
And when Conner moves up, that will be one less seat for a potential ringer to occupy.

As @virtualbalboa said, even if other teams wanted to hire their own ringers, where would the talent come from?
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It would be foreign talent just as it is now. I think the primary reason it hasn't happened more is that most of the qualified talent (basically: GT/Super GT/V8 Supercars) doesn't have a sponsor that wants to be in the US market and to advertise to Americans in an American racing series. If they did, drivers like Haley and John Hunter Nemecheck would be on the sidelines.

Honestly, that could change in the next 2-3 years as all the Americans trying the F1 ladder wind up running out of money or opportunities and someone like Jak Crawford seeks a seat somewhere in motorsports to recoup parental investment.
 
Conover said:
I love it for Trackhouse and kudos to SVG. He brought so much experience and savvy to his move, and is handling the learning curve on ovals decently. But as someone said, his time window is relatively short. Trackhouse is really positioned great; has a strong oval driver in Ross (who has developed into a pretty decent road race in his own right), has SVG and now adding The Prodigy next season.
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Marks has found the ‘meta’ to almost ensure Trackhouse will have three playoff entries for the foreseeable future. When you consider how much charter revenue is linked to the championship points fund and how big sponsors like Red Bull wanted to come back and associate with the team, knowing they’re going to be shown front and center at least half a dozen races per year, it’s basically a money printing machine.
 
It sure would be nice if Roger Penske took advantage of the fact that he actively employs Shane’s greatest Supercars rival, even if there are only one or two Cup road courses that don’t conflict with IndyCar events:

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C'mon dude, what did you expect. It's Petty. What's he's supposed to say. I just love road courses, I always loved road courses. I love foreigners, and them there wimmen race car drivers and everything about Nascar lol.
 
Shane Van Gisbergen is the greatest <foreign> talent to arrive in NASCAR. That much is verifiable. :)
 
Remember when we had fields where every team had a ringer in the seat? Remember how those ringers did ad adapting to the cup cars?

Can it happen again, sure. Will it - I doubt so. I'm sure the sequential transmission makes it much easier than the ringers back then had it. But I still think it's a long cry to ask somebody from LeMans or Rolex to come over and wipe butts in a cup car. Aussie Supercars are the most similar, and that's what we are seeing.
 
8 of Petty’s 200 wins?

The Riverside, California road course.
 
Magnethead said:
Remember when we had fields where every team had a ringer in the seat? Remember how those ringers did ad adapting to the cup cars?

Can it happen again, sure. Will it - I doubt so. I'm sure the sequential transmission makes it much easier than the ringers back then had it. But I still think it's a long cry to ask somebody from LeMans or Rolex to come over and wipe butts in a cup car. Aussie Supercars are the most similar, and that's what we are seeing.
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A way to really prove this. Perhaps they can collaborate with the Aussies for an exhibition race, maybe a future Clash back on the Daytona RC, and have all of them come over and race in a Nascar special event. Others welcome too, of course. Nascar spec cars, of course. The biggest issue would be how many cars make it in.
Not that it would ever happen, but it would be fun to see.
 
hmmm298 said:
A way to really prove this. Perhaps they can collaborate with the Aussies for an exhibition race, maybe a future Clash back on the Daytona RC, and have all of them come over and race in a Nascar special event. Others welcome too, of course. Nascar spec cars, of course. The biggest issue would be how many cars make it in.
Not that it would ever happen, but it would be fun to see.
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Run it on a neutral track. Maybe Brazil; that would mean the US drivers would also have to put up with at least some of the inconveniences of travelling.
 
I still think Kyle is a much better talent than SVG. SVG is a specialist, Kyle is good at everything. To me Smoke is more of a talent than SVG, look at everything he's won in. Heck he's out there winning drag races now
 
A lot of replies to this thread are minimizing the accomplishments of SVG. Winning 4 of one's first 34 races is absurd. I understand the instinct to fight off the hyperbole of OP but let's not swing too far in the other direction - he won his first cup race for crying out loud! SVG is certainly among the most talented drivers we've seen enter the cup series lately.

When is the last time anyone has looked genuinely unbeatable on a certain genre of track? Let alone in their 2nd-3rd-ish year racing here?

Lastly Zilisch too is an unbelievable talent, but I'll save the anointing for when he wins at the cup level. SVG is doing that now. If I'm a team owner I'm taking Zilisch don't get me wrong, but I'm in awe at what SVG is doing. This is not normal.
 
LJ7201 said:
When is the last time anyone has looked genuinely unbeatable on a certain genre of track?
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The key words are "certain genre". He's got a long way to go on ovals. He's benefitting from recent changes to the schedule. Good for him but he's not yet a threat to win on the other 83% of the schedule, including the last four races of the playoffs.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
The key words are "certain genre". He's got a long way to go on ovals. He's benefitting from recent changes to the schedule. Good for him but he's not yet a threat to win on the other 83% of the schedule, including the last four races of the playoffs.
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I think he's walking on water and everyone here is saying he can't swim. The schedule is what it is, road courses are still stops on the tour. Ross Chastain has 6 wins in 237 cup races and is near unanimously seen as a high-level talent here. SVG's 4 in 34 astonishes me.

I'm not saying he's got it together on ovals, or is a title contender, but he's legitimately racking up wins very very early on in his career over here. I'm personally blown away by it.
 
Unfortunately for SVG, NASCAR is an oval series, not a road racing series. When he starts finishing consistently in the top 20 on ovals I will get excited about him.
 
LJ7201 said:
he's legitimately racking up wins very very early on in his career over here.
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His SuperCars record averages a win every eight races, a podium every three. He finished in the top five for a decade, including winng half the races run over his last two seasons. His entire career has been on road courses in similar cars. I don't see any reason for surprise.
 
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