Should the Headline Agree with the Story?

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FlFlash

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I've noticed this many times in print I just wanted to point this one out in particular.
Here's the article: http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-chicago

Here's the Headline: Gordon alleges RCR orders altered Richmond finish

Here's the closest matching qoute from Gordon:
“If any of that is true of what’s being speculated right now, all I can say is I’ve lost a lot of respect for Paul Menard if that’s the case,”

After reading the article, In your opinion is it Close Enough or is the Media embellishing what Gordon said?
 
FlFlash said:
After reading the article, In your opinion is it Close Enough or is the Media embellishing what Gordon said?
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embellishing bs. it's called bait and switch in marketing to pull the suckers in and sell them something else. same thing, different product.
 
FlFlash said:
After reading the article, In your opinion is it Close Enough or is the Media embellishing what Gordon said?
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Gordon, “I don’t want to blame him for any of that if it’s not true. He might have just lost it off of turn four and the caution came out. But when you listen to the radio, and I’ve had other people translate it to me, it sounds a little fishy.”
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Close enough for me.
 
Quote from the article:

“...... But when you listen to the radio, and I’ve had other people translate it to me, it sounds a little fishy.”

Gordon said he’s not personally heard the radio transmission, and there doesn’t appear to be concrete evidence to prove the allegation.

So first he says "when you listen" then says he had others translate it to him[translate???] then says he didn't listen.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. I'm just sayin'.

If anyone thinks a driver is going to make it easy for a competitor to pass and take a win away from his teammate I've got this nifty little bridge for sale.
 
The headline isn't always the author of the story, but the editor of the site (AP or Yahoo).

I'm actually sitting here right now seething over a headline to an article being "shortened" (altered) to make a broad mis-representation of the facts. I don't care if the headline I wrote is six lines, don't change it to represent the facts.

La Plata Residents Oppose Wal-Mart Annexation

... is a far cry from ...

La Plata Residents Let Their Voice Be Heard at Public Hearing
 
FlFlash said:
I've noticed this many times in print I just wanted to point this one out in particular.
Here's the article: http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-chicago

Here's the Headline: Gordon alleges RCR orders altered Richmond finish

Here's the closest matching qoute from Gordon:
“If any of that is true of what’s being speculated right now, all I can say is I’ve lost a lot of respect for Paul Menard if that’s the case,”

After reading the article, In your opinion is it Close Enough or is the Media embellishing what Gordon said?
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Nope, not even close. Just another example of how the first ammendment is wasted on people with no skill or conscience. I was tweeting with Jenna Fryer about her slight misquote of Kurt, and why she didn't pick up on it when she read from the transcript provided to her. Her answer? Tony Stewart does the same thing 500 times a day. :mad:

SlowNeasy said:
embellishing bs. it's called bait and switch in marketing to pull the suckers in and sell them something else. same thing, different product.
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Hey, don't call FlFLash a sucker!;)
 
Andy, I was curious what your response would be to this thread.

Your saying that whoever prints the story from off the wire can modify or use an entirely different headline than what the story originaly ran with?
I agree Yahoo is the worst for this in my opinion.

FB, I noticed her use of that qoute also, interesting how changing one word changed the context of the statement.
 
FlFlash said:
Andy, I was curious what your response would be to this thread.

Your saying that whoever prints the story from off the wire can modify or use an entirely different headline than what the story originaly ran with?
I agree Yahoo is the worst for this in my opinion
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Yep. Sometimes, even the wire changes the headline.

The reporter submits a story (with or without a headline, depending on the operation) and the editor reviews the story for grammatical and (if evident) factual errors. Then they run the story with their own headline.

So, when the headline doesn't match the story, you can't take that up with the author of the story. In fact, when that does happen, you can probably bet that the author of the story is sitting in a corner with steam coming out of their ears.
 
FlFlash said:
FB, I noticed her use of that qoute also, interesting how changing one word changed the context of the statement.
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It sure did, because he meant JJ was intimidated by the strength of Penske equipment. (I wont comment on how crazy that sounds).

I explained all this to Jenna, and her response was something like 'I'm not going to talk about it with someone who wasn't even there. I'm moving on'.
 
FenderBumper said:
It sure did, because he meant JJ was intimidated by the strength of Penske equipment. (I wont comment on how crazy that sounds).

I explained all this to Jenna, and her response was something like 'I'm not going to talk about it with someone who wasn't even there. I'm moving on'.
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I like Jenna, but I've never seen any reporter (with the exception of the blowhards on FOX "News" Channel and MSNBC) who cares so little about all the facts of a story.
 
HEADLINES sell!

Facts smell.

Quote from a former newspaper reporter whose name I cannot recall...
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I like Jenna, but I've never seen any reporter (with the exception of the blowhards on FOX "News" Channel and MSNBC) who cares so little about all the facts of a story.
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It sure shows. She's also a bit of a space cadet, 2nd class. From one reporter to another, it sure is frustrating to see.

I'm not actually a reporter, but that doesn't matter. ;)
 
robbybee said:
HEADLINES sell!

Facts smell.

Quote from a former newspaper reporter whose name I cannot recall...
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That was Dave Goldblach in 2003 doing live coverage of a HUGE EXPLOSION at a waste processing facility outside Houston.
 
There is several healines you could take out of that article that wouldn't be entirely true other than the one they used. Outside of the Gordon one they could of said somethign about Harvick accusing HMS of team orders for JR. or something about a HMS/RCR fued that could possible blossom.....

Honestly, the last one would REALLY peak my intersted...remember the last HMS/RCR fued?
 
robbybee said:
Refresh our memories, GF...
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Some would argue Gordon/Burton...but that was really one incident...

the "fued" was Dale Sr./Gordon! Even though it was more of a "fued" between fans...it still made that point in racing excellent if you were a fan of either driver!
 
Oh, that. Yeah, well that was a Made For TV Feud - 'cause we all know that Dale and Jeff were partners in off-the-track biznesses.
 
robbybee said:
Oh, that. Yeah, well that was a Made For TV Feud - 'cause we all know that Dale and Jeff were partners in off-the-track biznesses.
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Oh no doubt it was "made for tv" that is why I used quotes around the word "fued" lol

Regardless it worked and it made fans of either signed REALLY passionate about it. I have relatives that to this day will barely talk racing with me because of it lol
 
robbybee said:
LOeffingL!
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I was wondering if anyone would get it.

Fueds are part of NASCAR. IMO, stock car racing isn't pureist racing based on speed alone. It's more of a show about racing. Other series have stewards moving driver back a few spaces for running into someones line, avoidable contact, etc. Stockcars have bumpers and fenders to settle the battle for racing room, and that breeds rivalries. It's a great show when the media isn't constantly hacking at it and making it look fake.
 
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