SiriusXM: Kevin Harvick says Truck Series schedule needs to be fixed

I agree with Harvick.

But I thought he'd bring up the fact that Truck races need to address the issue where most of the race schedule are all out of wack. They have races set months apart. I think that hurts the series more than it helps.

They need to group them to within at least 2 weeks, no more.

I always lose track of the Truck races because I dont know when one will be one.
 
jws926 said:
Sorry Reck, you kind of asked for this ;), there are these things called schedules, they are really cool, they let you know when the next race will be :D
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Even if I cared enough to check, double check the schedule I wouldn't know when a particular race would be on as the problem is the races are too far apart.
 
Reck said:
Even if I cared enough to check, double check the schedule I wouldn't know when a particular race would be on as the problem is the races are too far apart.
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lol I dont even know how to respond to this.
 
jws926 said:
The OP is blank, so I have no idea

Sorry Reck, you kind of asked for this ;), there are these things called schedules, they are really cool, they let you know when the next race will be :D
http://www.jayski.com/news/campingworld/2017/story/_/page/2017cts-sched
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He said they need to be showing up at the grassroots level accompanying Late Model events and whatnot and that the Trucks will help get people out to these short tracks. And that if the tracks aren't up to par in terms of safety NASCAR should be working with them on how to make the necessary upgrades.
 
Also said that the series is racing at a lot of the wrong racetracks (My example: Cookie Cutter @ LVMS having two races) and they're lollygagging around with what they have now. I 110% agree with his statement, but I don't know how or if they can do it with the contracts in place. At the end of his interview he said he was on a rant about it lol.
 
jws926 said:
lol I dont even know how to respond to this.
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He's saying the races are so far apart that he forgets to even check the schedule for them. I have the same problem with TV shows now that the schedules start almost anytime of year instead of in September. A show will have a season finale but I don't know when it will restart. Eventually I forget about it and quit checking for the season premiere date. This especially true it that show was the only thing I watched on that network, so I miss the cross-promotional ads during other shows.

As for racing, I check TVRacer on Friday mornings to see what's on for the weekend, but I see his point.
 
FLRacingFan said:
He said they need to be showing up at the grassroots level accompanying Late Model events and whatnot and that the Trucks will help get people out to these short tracks. And that if the tracks aren't up to par in terms of safety NASCAR should be working with them on how to make the necessary upgrades.
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It would be a lot cheaper for both tracks and teams to modify the trucks so they're safe to run on these tracks. Obviously the local Late Model series don't have problems.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
He's saying the races are so far apart that he forgets to even check the schedule for them. I have the same problem with TV shows now that the schedules start almost anytime of year instead of in September. A show will have a season finale but I don't know when it will restart. Eventually I forget about it and quit checking for the season premiere date. This especially true it that show was the only thing I watched on that network, so I miss the cross-promotional ads during other shows.

As for racing, I check TVRacer on Friday mornings to see what's on for the weekend, but I see his point.
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Set your DVR to record a series and then you never miss a show and you don't need to remember dates.
 
Kevin is right on. Thread is off track, it isn't about the schedule that some can't seem to keep up with, but about getting the trucks back to where they came from to start with, the way the commercials try to portray with beating and banging and plenty of action. Not sure how to get soft walls everywhere, trucks on the short tracks don't go that fast IMO, and taking out the rough edges of a short track should make it safe enough and make the tracks safer when it can be afforded. Run some of them on dirt while they are at it. It is great I guess to run the 1.5's with a truck, but look at the money spent making the truck smooth and a lot of the younger one can't race for being too young.
 
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Forget the soft walls, Nascar raced for years and the popularity kept growing.
Today the drivers it in little cocoons inside a padded cage (track) so no one gets hurt. It has come to the point where a driver can't even see without some spotter telling him what to do.
You want the sport back? Go back to what people loved. Slow the cars down, take away all the down force, make the tracks smaller (mostly).
I bet most old timers on here thought 600 HP was out of this world and it was fun to watch which drivers could make an engine last the whole race.
The trucks racing at the local race tracks don't need soft walls, do the people racing there now have them? NO, so why should a bunch of new comers trying to make the Xfinity series have them?
Take the trucks back to the beginning at smaller tracks and let Mark Martin, Marlin and some other old timers put on a show to get the fans interested.
Hell you even let Kyle race there. Mind you when the kids get a chance to wreck him, he won't be racing the kiddies anymore.
One more thing that lets racing in Canada survive, keep the costs down, one engine per season.
 
Team Penske said:
... Hell you even let Kyle race there. Mind you when the kids get a chance to wreck him, he won't be racing the kiddies anymore. ...
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Give the Trucks and X cars more stand-alone weekends in the boonies and you won't see many Cup drivers willing to make the trip between tracks. Of course, that leads back to the old problem of getting ISC and SMI to cough up some of those triple-header dates.
 
Team Penske said:
Forget the soft walls, Nascar raced for years and the popularity kept growing.
Today the drivers it in little cocoons inside a padded cage (track) so no one gets hurt. It has come to the point where a driver can't even see without some spotter telling him what to do.
You want the sport back? Go back to what people loved. Slow the cars down, take away all the down force, make the tracks smaller (mostly).
I bet most old timers on here thought 600 HP was out of this world and it was fun to watch which drivers could make an engine last the whole race.
The trucks racing at the local race tracks don't need soft walls, do the people racing there now have them? NO, so why should a bunch of new comers trying to make the Xfinity series have them?
Take the trucks back to the beginning at smaller tracks and let Mark Martin, Marlin and some other old timers put on a show to get the fans interested.
Hell you even let Kyle race there. Mind you when the kids get a chance to wreck him, he won't be racing the kiddies anymore.
One more thing that lets racing in Canada survive, keep the costs down, one engine per season.
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Yep a 1/2 mile track is big for most of ARCA stuff. With all of the safety features they have now days those speeds are pretty safe without padded walls. Let the trucks like Harvick says be the feature race at those smaller tracks, and more of the workin stiffs can go and afford to take the family.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Give the Trucks and X cars more stand-alone weekends in the boonies and you won't see many Cup drivers willing to make the trip between tracks. Of course, that leads back to the old problem of getting ISC and SMI to cough up some of those triple-header dates.
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they have plenty of room on the truck schedule I believe. Most of those youngsters are off racing something else a lot because there aren't that many dates to keep them busy.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
It would be a lot cheaper for both tracks and teams to modify the trucks so they're safe to run on these tracks. Obviously the local Late Model series don't have problems.
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It would be nice if NASCAR could help the tracks out where they can, especially if there are any glaring deficiencies. But if they're comfortable running K&N Pro East and West on these tracks I'd have to imagine they could run Truck too.
 
Back in the day – geeeeeee, I love sayin’ that – the cup short track cars were so bent up ‘n hammered back out by the time they got to the second Richmond date they were one big wrinkle. Layers of Bondo®. Nothing was straight.

Walk down the right side of the grid field’s starters ‘n most of ‘em had a round, blank hunk of metal where they’d put the fuel fillers when they ran ‘em on road courses.
 
I agree with Reck. I am always excited for the Trucks at Daytona. Maybe it is because it is kind of an appetizer for the start of the season, but I completely fall off after. I will say that it is in most part because they fall on Friday nights pretty often so I am not usually sitting at home channel surfing and the fact that I do not want to constantly have to check the schedule over and over again throughout the season. I know I can DVR and that solves all the problems and sometimes I do, but I usually only do a single race here and there. There are too many shows that we watch and record series etc. The reality of it is that if you are out of sight, you are out of mind and that is truly the case with the trucks.

I love the idea of the trucks being a touring series like the K&N series. Back in or around 2002 I went to a race at the now closed Mesa Marin in Bakersfield and the Trucks ran on a Sunday while they had LM's and Legends on Satruday. It was an awesome show at an awesome track. We could use more of that.
 
In "journalist" speak, is Pistone saying that's an insane amount to spend on the truck series or he thinks Busch was pretending to be a "journalist" when he made the statement?
 
Ain't gotta clue what they cost. I don't own any. Wonder if Pistone does......
 
Eldora doesn't have SAFER Barriers. Why should a track like Hickory need them?

IMO, it's only a matter of time before we start seeing NASCAR go to more short tracks. These big ass arenas with 120,000 seats that weren't built with the best racing in mind aren't selling tickets and, at the rate NASCAR's going, seating 7,000 people for a Truck race might just be enough.
 
I can't see how running the smaller bull rings will raise the cost of racing. It would be really hard to be destroying a truck in practice, one in qualifying, and teams will probably be able to keep it running until the finish..bang it back together and go again at the next bull ring. Much like the snowball derby is a popular race off season, this should happen with the trucks

“The Trucks should be opening up in January like they used to at Tuscon Raceway Park or the Copperworld Classic when it was at Phoenix,” Harvick said. “Let the Truck Series start our season in January so they can have exposure on TV by themselves.
http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2017/05...-state-of-truck-series-schedule-makes-me-mad/
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Give the Trucks and X cars more stand-alone weekends in the boonies and you won't see many Cup drivers willing to make the trip between tracks. Of course, that leads back to the old problem of getting ISC and SMI to cough up some of those triple-header dates.
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Don't know why SMI doesn't try the Bullring at Las Vegas for one of their races instead of both of them on the cookie cutter, I guess logistics can't make that happen? They're both right next door to each other.
 
I have never been impressed with a truck going 175 MPH all sucked down on the track. They didn't start out that way, it was a bang em up short track series that was fun to watch. The road races and shorter tracks they run on I like much better.
 
More times than not the trucks put on the best show of the weekend. I'd love to see them race more especially short tracks.


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If we are going to insist on safer barriers Chocolate Myers had an idea today for someone to invent portable safer barriers so NASCAR could just bring it with them.
 
Safer barriers aside I wish the trucks raced at places like Gateway, Milwaukee Mile, Rockingham, IRP, Louisville, Fairgrounds,Memphis, Myrtle Beach, South Boston and North Wilkesboro. Now I know some of those tracks are unrealistic but the idea is to race at places Cup and Xfinity don't race at to build their own identity as well as sponsors get a bang for their buck going to places where there is no "big league racing" taking place. The series could build its own brand so to speak as a developmental league for drivers and up/coming teams. I bet racing at short tracks you could get an occasional start from a former cup Champion/star or current cup driver that's an owner in the series. I think it's great that Keselowski and Busch own teams but it stinks when they race every time there is a companion event and end up winning it. However if they showed up to race in a non Cup market, I think it'd be a pretty big deal and it wouldn't be as easy to win because with the time invested the younger drivers and teams would be develeoped up to a point where they could compete. Imagine how cool it'd be if a Dale Jr or even Jeff Gordon raced at a truck race in Myrtle Beach? I think it'd be a pretty big deal and a boon to the truck series
 
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