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When Terry Labonte took the checkered flag at the Southern 500, he refused to celebrate by turning doughnuts on the track.
The practice of spinning the car and creating thick, white puffs of smoke is extremely popular with fans and younger drivers, but a sign of unprofessionalism to many veterans.

"I am too old to do doughnuts. I think it's goofy looking," said the 46-year-old Labonte, who instead took one slow victory lap Sunday around Darlington Raceway with the checkered flag.

"I watch those guys do that all of the time and I just wonder to myself what the look would be on Junior Johnson's face if you had done that to one of his cars."

Johnson, one of NASCAR's pioneers, won 50 races during his career, then fielded cars for other drivers for nearly 30 years. Labonte drove for Johnson from 1987-89.

The day before Labonte's victory, teen-age teammates Brian Vickers and Kyle Busch celebrated their 1-2 finish in the Busch Series race by turning doughnuts together on the Darlington frontstretch.

Busch said he and Vickers were just having fun, and Vickers never complained about sharing his winning moment with his teammate. But never before had anyone seen a driver celebrate a second-place finish with a burnout. The reaction was stunned amazement.

"Doughnuts have gotten a little carried away," Winston Cup points leader Matt Kenseth said. "I mean, if the race winner does it and the other guy clinched the championship that day and does it, that's one thing. But second place? Unbelievable."

Driver Jeff Burton proudly boasts that he's never done a doughnut after any of his 17 Winston Cup victories.

"I prefer to act like I've been there before and expect to be there again," Burton said. "It's just not in my personality to be so showy about something you expected."

It's believed that former CART series and Formula One driver Alex Zanardi came up with the celebratory doughnut in the late '90s. It became a trademark of his, with each ensuing burnout topping the last one.

"Once he saw that it was so well accepted with the fans, he really started working on them," said Jimmy Vasser, Zanardi's former teammate. "Then he said we could start doing them, too. But we said, 'It's your trademark, Alex, we're not going to do them.'

"Nobody did any doughnuts while he was still in CART. Some guys do it once in a while now, but I see it's the NASCAR guys who have really copied it."

Fewer and fewer open-wheel drivers are mimicking Zanardi, in part because of the damage it can do. After Bruno Junqueira won in Denver last weekend, his crew quickly radioed him that doughnuts would be at his own expense.

"If you want to do one, you can pay for the damage it does," he was told.

Kevin Harvick is well-known for his doughnuts, including a famous one last month at Indianapolis that tore off his tire and blew off a fender. The late Dale Earnhardt, who drove that car before Harvick, would not have approved.

"I think doughnuts are cool, but Dale hated them," said car owner Richard Childress. "He wouldn't do them and he wouldn't let his drivers do them, either."

Legend has it that when Dale Earnhardt Jr. did a doughnut to celebrate his win at Richmond several years ago, his father sent him a bill charging him for the damage to the No. 8 Chevrolet.

NASCAR doesn't have a clear-cut opinion on the post-race celebrations, but understands Earnhardt's logic in how much damage a doughnut can do to a car. Motors can blow, tires can explode and the sheet metal can crumple.

"You can just see the engine builder gritting his teeth and crew chiefs freaking out when they see their car doing a doughnut," Winston Cup director John Darby said. "I suppose the thrill of victory warrants some sort of celebration. Unfortunately this new fad of doing doughnuts can ruin a lot of valuable information that a crew can take from a car after a race."

Michael Waltrip didn't do a burnout after winning the Busch Series race at Bristol in a car he owns. Instead, he did a headstand in Victory Lane and saved a ton of money.

"Michael pays the bills on that, so he wasn't going to mess it up," said Slugger Labbe, Waltrip's Winston Cup crew chief. "And I don't think you would have seen Brian Vickers do one if he was still driving stuff his dad owned."

Sterling Marlin doesn't do doughnuts after a win, but when Jamie McMurray got his first career victory last season as an injury replacement for Marlin, his crew gave him permission to do a burnout.

But it came with a warning - "Don't blow anything up. You still have to get through inspection," he was told.

"It's OK to do a doughnut if it's your first win, or you just won the championship or something," said Tony Glover, one of McMurray's team managers. "But don't do one for your 25th win. Save it for something special and act like a professional the rest of the time."
 
I personally didnt think it was much of a big deal, but I do think that they are starting to do it a little bit much...but I dont really care because they are just happy and excited.
 
The late Dale Earnhardt, who drove that car before Harvick, would not have approved.
"I think doughnuts are cool, but Dale hated them," said car owner Richard Childress. "He wouldn't do them and he wouldn't let his drivers do them, either."

i remember dale doing doughnuts in the infield when he won the 1998 daytona 500.
 
Some of these burnouts are getting out of hand. It was kind of neat at first, but now it seems more silly especially with the damage that can be done. The double ones were stupid though. 2nd place had no business out there celebrating IMO. I kind of think it will die off a little or at least tone down when the team gets tired of the extra workand expense from the tore up cars.
 
Dale did spin his car in the infield after winning the Daytona 500.
He also radioed his crew that he was going to do that and that he would pay for any damage to the grass or the car.

Big difference in spinning around on wet grass and tearing up equipment by doing donuts on dry pavement with a car that is already beat up after a 500 mile race.

Look for NASCAR to begin fining cars that fail to pass inspection because of damage done during a post race display of pure childishness.

Sooner of later, a piece of tire or some other part of a racecar will get into the crowd and cause injury and everyone will be crying that NASCAR was at fault because they allowed the donuts to continue.

All you fans who think those donuts are so great are obviously not aware of the damage they can do to a very expensive piece of equipment; but who cares as long as the show makes the folks happy.
 
I'm not a real fan of the doughnuts, either. I just think of all the work the fab shop, et al., has to do to fix the damage.

I like Terry carrying the checkered flag. Much nicer. But then, I'm an old phart. ;)
 
doesnt bother me.....if they wanna do it...its there deal.

i thought the double was cool...i think only 2nd should do it, if they are a teammate of the winner
 
Seems that most every time I listen in on the winner's scanner the driver gets the go ahead from his CC before the burn-outs, doughnuts or whatever. If the team owner and boss don't mind, why should it bother the other drivers? Indeed, IMO, why should they even comment on it.

When ya win one of these races, be it your 1st or 101st, it is cause for celebration. Drivers have done and will continue to do different things. "Polish" victory laps, laps with checkered flag, jumping out of hte car at the start/finish line to climb the fence, or do back flip (best practice this one before attempting), Mikey did a headstand. Matt has his little broadside through the grass before a doughnut or two.

"Professionalism" is a great thing. It takes a lot of it to win one of these deals and that is far enough with it.

Last thing on earth we need is more "robotic" responses from drivers. Let 'em be themselves for a little bit.
 
I agree...let them celebrate. I don't see donuts as any more dangerous to the fans than any accident at 180 mph.

If this anti-spinout I think the pressure will be on the drivers to come up with 'new and exciting' ways to celebrate. Heck, before you know it, someone will yank a jump-ramp on the grass and take leap over their crewchief!...ok, maybe not...but I bet THAT would get the crowd going!


:)
 
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