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For all of you "I love Nascar and they can do no wrong" people out there, read this:

NASCAR's growth slows after 15 years in the fast lane
By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY
NASCAR's popularity might have reached a plateau. As the Nextel Cup series nears the end of its first network TV contract, there are signs fan interest is lagging and a 15-year period of growth is sputtering.
Tracks don't release figures, but estimates from NASCAR reports show crowds have decreased in a third of the races this season. Fewer than half the Cup races were sellouts, and that includes two at the 92,000-seat grandstand of California Speedway east of Los Angeles, NASCAR's largest market.

That article was written in 2006, before Nascar ruined the sport for thousands by introducing the "car of tomorrow". That was before the downturn in the economy. That was 3 years ago. Is Nascar blind?

Here is how bad it was at Fontana this year. Stater Brothers GAVE away tickets to the race. All you had to do was purchase $50.00 in food and you received a free ticket. I know of no one who went to the race and actually paid for their ticket. All you had to do was to go to a special window and show a proof of purchase. Since they do not have names on them, it could be anyone's proof of purchase. I know of families that collected friends register tapes and got free tickets. The attendance was still lousy, thanks in part to a stupid decision by Nascar that started the race late, even though they knew that rain was in the forcast. They had another Daytona fiasco, but were aboe to finish the race.

That is how bad things are going for Nascar. They do not have a real popular driver. Junior could have filled the bill, if he could win races, but he can't. Jimmy Johnson is about as exciting as cardboard. There is no Dale Sr, Richard Petty, the Allison family, or the other great legends in driving because those drivers came from the South, where all they had was racing. Not so today. Today, Nascar tries to present itself as a "national" sport by racing allover the country. That is fine, but Nascar has to realize that in most of the country, they are going to take a back seat to numerous things.

So Nascar decides to run things like the Gestapo would. Everyone must have the same car. Those boxes that they run today are nothing more than IROC cars with a few minor exceptions. The engines are so identical that the same restrictor plate can fit on any car, despite the make. The announcers are a joke. They make listening to a race very difficult, though their job is not that easy because there is so little racing action in races these days. The drivers are on contract, and many of themcould care less if they win a race or not. Just be safe and get points is all that many of these clowns know. These are very common complaints. I am sure that many peoplein here share some of them. nascar had better do something to turn their situation around. It has been falling forsome time now.
 
For all of you "I love Nascar and they can do no wrong" people out there, read this:

NASCAR's growth slows after 15 years in the fast lane

Yet it's still the most-watched motorsport in America and it still draws higher attendance than any NFL game and it's still more popular than boring baseball, baskeyball, hockey, golf, volleyball, boxing, martial arts, tennis, softball, soccer, rugby, curling, bowling and badmitton. What's your point?
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That is how bad things are going for Nascar. They do not have a real popular driver. Junior could have filled the bill, if he could win races, but he can't. Jimmy Johnson is about as exciting as cardboard. There is no Dale Sr, Richard Petty, the Allison family, or the other great legends in driving because those drivers came from the South, where all they had was racing. Not so today. Today, Nascar tries to present itself as a "national" sport by racing allover the country. That is fine, but Nascar has to realize that in most of the country, they are going to take a back seat to numerous things.

There is, actually.

Wild Thing.

Nevada and California aren't "The South" :confused:
 
Shhhhh TRL, he's on a roll. Or a rant. Can't decide which but whatever it is it's amusing:whoopee:
 
Why post an article that was written in November of 2006?

I think the point is the media and others are pointing out, now, about how ticket sales and ratings are falling off for NASCAR. It's popular to point that out. But the signs have been there for 3 years that NASCAR had peaked and many chose not to notice. And the decline started before the COT, which many blame for the decline.

What few people were complaining back then complained about cookie cutter tracks, drivers with little personality, and uncompetitive races because of aerodynamics. Here were are 3 years later and those things are there and add the COT to the equation. Add a struggling economy to that and you have the ingredients for a major decline, which NASCAR is undergoing right now.
 
And California sold out a race when????;)


Actually CA sold out every race until they got piggish and added the second date, and still was over 80,000 until they added the date to just a couple weeks apart from Vegas. Now if you were going to a race that time of year and you had the choice between Vegas or CA which would you go to?

Then I'll tell you another thing, we went to every race there until the 2nd year after Ms. Zucker was made the president of CA Speedway. We will never go back.
 
yea, I think NASCAR is ok....... think it used to be great tho........lol
But hey, I'll still watch it Sunday.
 
For all of you "I love Nascar and they can do no wrong" people out there, read this:

NASCAR's growth slows after 15 years in the fast lane
By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY
NASCAR's popularity might have reached a plateau. As the Nextel Cup series nears the end of its first network TV contract, there are signs fan interest is lagging and a 15-year period of growth is sputtering.
Tracks don't release figures, but estimates from NASCAR reports show crowds have decreased in a third of the races this season. Fewer than half the Cup races were sellouts, and that includes two at the 92,000-seat grandstand of California Speedway east of Los Angeles, NASCAR's largest market.

That article was written in 2006, before Nascar ruined the sport for thousands by introducing the "car of tomorrow". That was before the downturn in the economy. That was 3 years ago. Is Nascar blind?

Here is how bad it was at Fontana this year. Stater Brothers GAVE away tickets to the race. All you had to do was purchase $50.00 in food and you received a free ticket. I know of no one who went to the race and actually paid for their ticket. All you had to do was to go to a special window and show a proof of purchase. Since they do not have names on them, it could be anyone's proof of purchase. I know of families that collected friends register tapes and got free tickets. The attendance was still lousy, thanks in part to a stupid decision by Nascar that started the race late, even though they knew that rain was in the forcast. They had another Daytona fiasco, but were aboe to finish the race.

That is how bad things are going for Nascar. They do not have a real popular driver. Junior could have filled the bill, if he could win races, but he can't. Jimmy Johnson is about as exciting as cardboard. There is no Dale Sr, Richard Petty, the Allison family, or the other great legends in driving because those drivers came from the South, where all they had was racing. Not so today. Today, Nascar tries to present itself as a "national" sport by racing allover the country. That is fine, but Nascar has to realize that in most of the country, they are going to take a back seat to numerous things.

So Nascar decides to run things like the Gestapo would. Everyone must have the same car. Those boxes that they run today are nothing more than IROC cars with a few minor exceptions. The engines are so identical that the same restrictor plate can fit on any car, despite the make. The announcers are a joke. They make listening to a race very difficult, though their job is not that easy because there is so little racing action in races these days. The drivers are on contract, and many of themcould care less if they win a race or not. Just be safe and get points is all that many of these clowns know. These are very common complaints. I am sure that many peoplein here share some of them. nascar had better do something to turn their situation around. It has been falling forsome time now.

So go watch golf, then.
 
So go watch golf, then.
Hey watch it buster. The PGA just got Tiger back.

Bigdaddy is new here so he hasn't seen what the rest of us have tussled over for many years. I think that once he found a nice forum that is willing to hear his opinion, he just cut loose. I think that I've heard everyone of his gripes here before, and many of them from me. The only thing that I wonder about is why on earth is Bigdaddy still watching NASCAR Sup races. If he isn't, then why is he commenting on them?

Bigdaddy, you should go back and read the archives of this forum before posting such drivel. It's been covered before, and since 2006, there have been many people who were fans of NASCAR that have left and stopped posting. I value your opinion, though it's rather extreme, but I'd rather read from you something that is new in the news rather than something that is 3 or 4 years old and is about as relevant as the Allison's and Yarborough fighting at Daytona in 2009. BTW, you did hear about that incident didn't you?
 
There is, actually.

Wild Thing.

Nevada and California aren't "The South" :confused:

Lol that reminds me of a line from days of thunder..

Hes a yankee? well not exactly hes from california if your from california your not really anything lol


sorry to the cali folks in here but it fit LOL
 
Only losers would say "if you don't like it, don't watch it". That is a pathetic comeback and show just how intellgent the person who made it really is. You have no clue do you? You have no idea how bad Nascar racing really is. Now someone said that they have lost a lot of posters in here. How many? And how many have been replaced? Today's Cup race is a joke. Drivers who have to have every little thing perfect or they go whining to their Pit Crews about it. Cars that resemble something you can build with Lego's. Announcers that have little intelligence. Fans are leaving by the thousands, and you "Nascar can do no wrong" sheep will not admit that your sport is failing. Instead of acknowledging the problems and looking for solutions to them, you would rather stick your head in the sand.

If Nascar is doing such a great job, how come there are only 45 cars entered into the Talledega race on Sunday? What happened to the 50+ entrants that they used to get? The answer is rather obvious, but before I explain, I will give you guys a chance to give us your take on the subject.
 
If it's as bad as you say why do you follow Nascar? If it upsets you so much why not switch to being a fan of competitive ping pong?

Is there anything about Nascar you like? Anything at all, maybe Digger?

Why waste your time here trying to tell us a sport we still enjoy and follow, albeit with problems, is doomed when most of us are going to tell you to blow it out yer fast race car driver a**?:beerbang::D:whoopee::sarcasm::rolleyes:
 
If Nascar is doing such a great job, how come there are only 45 cars entered into the Talledega race on Sunday? What happened to the 50+ entrants that they used to get?

Duh. :rolleyes:

Economy in Turmoil

INTERACTIVE: Economy in Turmoil How the global financial crisis has unfolded.

Do you watch the news at all? Do you watch any TV? Wall Street is in crisis. 401ks are turning into 10ks. Retirement funds are going broke. Hundreds of thousands of people are losing their job every week. Detroit is burning. Banks are all lining up in the Streets of Washington DC for money from the Federal Government so they can continue day-to-day operations. Businesses are going under every day. Our President calls it "the worst financial crisis since The Great Depression".

The entire civilized world is in a depression, one that has already caused irreversible long-term damage. Every sport is hurting. Every form of entertainment is hurting. And seeing as many cynics predicted NASCAR wouldn't make it this long, I'd say things aren't doom and gloom down in Daytona Beach.
 
If it's as bad as you say why do you follow Nascar? If it upsets you so much why not switch to being a fan of competitive ping pong?

Is there anything about Nascar you like? Anything at all, maybe Digger?

Why waste your time here trying to tell us a sport we still enjoy and follow, albeit with problems, is doomed when most of us are going to tell you to blow it out yer fast race car driver a**?:beerbang::D:whoopee::sarcasm::rolleyes:

lols
 
He just might be right! The damn sport has been going downhill for sixty years... :sarcasm:

On Thursday, June 6, 1957, heads of several car companies, sitting as directors of the Automobile Manufacturers Asso*ciation, unanimously recommended that the industry take no part in, or assist in any way, automobile races or other competitive events that emphasized speed or horsepower. When the resolution came down, the automotive industry retreated from NASCAR stock car racing.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-racing/nascar/season-recaps/1950s/1957-nascar.htm
 
Only losers would say "if you don't like it, don't watch it". That is a pathetic comeback and show just how intellgent the person who made it really is. You have no clue do you? You have no idea how bad Nascar racing really is. Now someone said that they have lost a lot of posters in here. How many? And how many have been replaced? Today's Cup race is a joke. Drivers who have to have every little thing perfect or they go whining to their Pit Crews about it. Cars that resemble something you can build with Lego's. Announcers that have little intelligence. Fans are leaving by the thousands, and you "Nascar can do no wrong" sheep will not admit that your sport is failing. Instead of acknowledging the problems and looking for solutions to them, you would rather stick your head in the sand.

If Nascar is doing such a great job, how come there are only 45 cars entered into the Talledega race on Sunday? What happened to the 50+ entrants that they used to get? The answer is rather obvious, but before I explain, I will give you guys a chance to give us your take on the subject.

Why izzit that NASCAR sells more hats, T-shirts and memorabilia than the NBA and the NFL combined?? Somebody likes it.
How come you're not pitchin a fluff on a lawn bowling website?
 
Only losers would say "if you don't like it, don't watch it". That is a pathetic comeback and show just how intellgent the person who made it really is. You have no clue do you? You have no idea how bad Nascar racing really is. Now someone said that they have lost a lot of posters in here. How many? And how many have been replaced? Today's Cup race is a joke. Drivers who have to have every little thing perfect or they go whining to their Pit Crews about it. Cars that resemble something you can build with Lego's. Announcers that have little intelligence. Fans are leaving by the thousands, and you "Nascar can do no wrong" sheep will not admit that your sport is failing. Instead of acknowledging the problems and looking for solutions to them, you would rather stick your head in the sand.

If Nascar is doing such a great job, how come there are only 45 cars entered into the Talledega race on Sunday? What happened to the 50+ entrants that they used to get? The answer is rather obvious, but before I explain, I will give you guys a chance to give us your take on the subject.

I'll give you my take ...with no BS attached, you coming into this forum and posting dribble like the previous posts is nothing but a pure attempt to disrupt this board. I've seen this before here and will not be a part of it, take your negativety elsewhere.
 
Fans are leaving by the thousands, and you "Nascar can do no wrong" sheep will not admit that your sport is failing. Instead of acknowledging the problems and looking for solutions to them, you would rather stick your head in the sand.


Oh, OK!

When I have my weekly lunch with Brian France I will tell him all about my solutions and how he can fix Nascar. :rolleyes:
 
Typical replies from people who do not have enough guts to suggest how the sport can improve itself. You guy do not have any ideeas, do you? You just follow along like a bunch of sheep. Your sport has been losing popularity for years now, and you just go along, pretending that all is great. You may not like my suggestions, but at least I make them. All of you clowns just bury your hed in the sand. You blame everyone and everything for the problem except the real culprit. Nascar itself. You guys are gutless. All you want to do is be happy and ignore what is really going on, while we real fans want to try and improve the sport.
 
Only losers would say "if you don't like it, don't watch it". That is a pathetic comeback and show just how intellgent the person who made it really is. You have no clue do you? You have no idea how bad Nascar racing really is. Now someone said that they have lost a lot of posters in here. How many? And how many have been replaced? Today's Cup race is a joke. Drivers who have to have every little thing perfect or they go whining to their Pit Crews about it. Cars that resemble something you can build with Lego's. Announcers that have little intelligence. Fans are leaving by the thousands, and you "Nascar can do no wrong" sheep will not admit that your sport is failing. Instead of acknowledging the problems and looking for solutions to them, you would rather stick your head in the sand.

If Nascar is doing such a great job, how come there are only 45 cars entered into the Talledega race on Sunday? What happened to the 50+ entrants that they used to get? The answer is rather obvious, but before I explain, I will give you guys a chance to give us your take on the subject.
Jeez, you don't give up do you? Like I told you before, you should stop posting and read what has been said before. If you don't want to take the time, read this. This isn't a poster here that hasn't complained about one thing or another that NASCAR has done. It's quite clear that you are either very immature, or you only want to stir up trouble. But since you don't want to answer the question, let me put it another way. What do you watch on TV come raceday? You obviously watch NASCAR because you are so learned about it, so that begs the following question, why? Are you a masochist or what.

Go ahead and call me a loser if you must.

One last thing, how many times have you contacted Daytona about your complaints? I'd be willing to bet your vast wealth that you haven't. If you don't care for what is written here, again, why read it?

Let me poke you by saying, I love NASCAR. I don't care for the direction that it's going, but hey, it's been going in that direction now for well over ten years. I'm a race fan and while my local racing comes first, NASCAR is second. Maybe you should put your effort into F1 racing. I hear they have gazillions of fans just like you who are overly opinionated at the problems of the sport. :p
 
Typical replies from people who do not have enough guts to suggest how the sport can improve itself. You guy do not have any ideeas, do you? You just follow along like a bunch of sheep. Your sport has been losing popularity for years now, and you just go along, pretending that all is great. You may not like my suggestions, but at least I make them. All of you clowns just bury your hed in the sand. You blame everyone and everything for the problem except the real culprit. Nascar itself. You guys are gutless. All you want to do is be happy and ignore what is really going on, while we real fans want to try and improve the sport.

I believe what you are suffering from is known as megalomania, but I'll go along with it.
What, pray tell, is it that YOU have done, in all your greatness, to restore NASCAR's diminishing fanbase and rescue the sport from it's obvious path to extinction??? Hmmm?
 
Typical replies from people who do not have enough guts to suggest how the sport can improve itself. You guy do not have any ideeas, do you? You just follow along like a bunch of sheep. Your sport has been losing popularity for years now, and you just go along, pretending that all is great. You may not like my suggestions, but at least I make them. All of you clowns just bury your hed in the sand. You blame everyone and everything for the problem except the real culprit. Nascar itself. You guys are gutless. All you want to do is be happy and ignore what is really going on, while we real fans want to try and improve the sport.

Umm, I gotta ask, what suggestions? I haven't seen anything from you other than pointless drivel about how bad Nascar is, and how stupid people are for liking it. Have you tried poking around this site a while? Some of the members have been very vocal about imrpovement that Nascar needs t make, and alost eveyone has numersous things they've griped about, both from the broadcast and product standpoint.

So, please tell us, what great magic wand do you plan on using to improve the sport? What fantastic suggestions have you shared, either here or any other countless racing forum, or with Nascar themselves?
 
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And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears;
I've got besides two curling-stones,
And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones."
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I'm only going to watch from now on. Here, I can share some popcorn. :D

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