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One of my coworkers talked to David Smith the other day and told me this. David quit RCR after 25 years simply because of a new sponsor. David quit because of the new liquor sponsor that Childress aquired. It all came down to the time when David read a pamphlet from Jack Daniels listing birthdays of those connected with RCR. When he saw his birthday and that of his son, that was all he needed. He took a hike, keeping his convictions with him.

I'm not sure I could do that, but I applaud someone who can stick with their beliefs even when it could cause a life change. David told my friend that he didn't have any other offers when he quit and didn't know what he would do, but did acknowledge that he now has several offers to choose from.
 
you have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything
 
I applaud him for not compromising his beliefs.
I also believe that you may see him in PEI because they will never accept an alchohol manufacturer as a sponsor.
 
I think it was a silly move on his part. What is he trying to say? That HE is better and above all the other employees at RCR? MAybe that they are all going to hell and he isn't? Everyone there is still the same as they were last year.
Betsy
 
I don't know. I can understand someone not wanting to work directly for a company whose product he objects to. But he worked for RCR. In a sport where drinking and smoking have been acceptable for years. Did he object to that? Maybe there were other hidden circumstances that affected his decision.

I agree that giving out birthdays without giving you the option nuts. I would raise a stink about that too. Fault RCR. Not the sponsor.
 
a man of his convictions ! good for him, personally i would never do something like that if i was content with the job.
maybe he was tired of the grind and this was the 'straw that broke the camels back" so to say.
 
Betsy said:
I think it was a silly move on his part. What is he trying to say? That HE is better and above all the other employees at RCR? MAybe that they are all going to hell and he isn't? Everyone there is still the same as they were last year.
Betsy
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You would argue if someone told you the grass was green.

Its the mans PERSONAL BELIEFS. Just like the Petty's....they don't want to have anything to do with alcohol or tobacco. The Petty Organization won't even put the Bud sticker on their cars. He hasn't said anything about being better than anyone, this just went against HIS beliefs.

Its a shame more people don't have strong convictions like he and his family.


Get over yourself.
 
That is so much BS about the Pettys! They took the money from both places! PERSONAL BELIEFS means to me that you have not researched your opinion with an open mind! A closed mind will always give a closed mind personal belief!
So you believe GOD will heal all your ills and you let your KIDS die without a transfusion... because of your PERSONAL BELIEFS?
Naaa! It is silly and stupid to give up your lifes work and all your working friends over a change in sponsorship.
Betsy
 
Betsy said:
That is so much BS about the Pettys! They took the money from both places! PERSONAL BELIEFS means to me that you have not researched your opinion with an open mind! A closed mind will always give a closed mind personal belief!
So you believe GOD will heal all your ills and you let your KIDS die without a transfusion... because of your PERSONAL BELIEFS?
Naaa! It is silly and stupid to give up your lifes work and all your working friends over a change in sponsorship.
Betsy
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Really? I had no idea you knew the Petty's that well. I guess if anyone would know, you would.

:rolleyes:
 
I kinda had the feeling that liquor sponsorships would open a "can o' worms", so to speak. There are those who have personal beliefs and convictions which supercede everything else in life, and I have to applaud anyone who has the conviction to make a stand for what he believes in. If he has been with RCR for that long, other offers for employment will certainly come.

I read somewhere that there is only ONE tobacco product on a Cup car this year, and it's on John Andretti's car. (Can't remember what the product is) I also read on NASCAR.com that "Nicorette" is now a major NASCAR sponsor, and they will have booths set up at each race to help fans stop smoking. Are the liqour companies going to do the same thing? It's fine to have a driver say "drink responsibly", but that just isn't enough. I love racing with a lifelong passion, but I lost my girlfriend to a drunk driver, so my emotions are very mixed on the liquor subject.

After all the years of being associated with "Winston" and cigarettes, all this just goes to show, that it's all about money, and who is willing to put it out. The government came down on the tobacco companies, and they slowly faded out of NASCAR and it's oh so loyal fan base. For anyone who hasn't been to DEI in Mooresville, NC, it says on the door of the museum "thank you for smoking your Winstons outside"

It's all about da money... :rolleyes:
 
Howdy MPR Yeah, me too! It is all about money. For myself, if there was never another liquor of tobacco product, it would suite me just fine.
On the other hand if either one of them asked to hire me for something or other, I would have no objections to taking their money.
Betsy
 
I cannot understand what the difference is between liquor and beer sponsorship. Why do a lot of folks oppose one and approve of the other? Both produce drunks. I don't know the statistics, but would guess that there are probably more beer drunks. Cost less.

I don't use either, and don't smoke. Would not hurt me a bit to see a total ban on all alcoholic products.
 
I have always admired the Petty family for their stand. Alcohol use and ads are all around them, even at the very core and tradition of the sport they love and have dedicated their life to. But do they publicly moan and groan about it? No. They stand back and say politely: 'No. Thanks.'

Freedom of choice. Live and let live.
 
You know? The more I think about it, the more doubts I have about Mr. Smith quitting. He was a trusted and valued employee for 25 years. I am sure he was counted upon to fulfill his duties. Then in the normal course of business events he up and quits.. I would not hire him if I knew of this event. How long would he have to work for any business to owe allegiance to it? Nope! I would hire someone else that I did not know this about.
Betsy
 
so, out of curiosity, if Kyle Petty or Jeff Green won the pole, then there would be no Bud Pole Award winner that week, right? I mean, Kyle or Jeff would start first, but no award would be given out...or would they give it to the 2nd place qualifier? I don't know...does anyone? I'd love to see it happen for Kyle, I know that.
 
Betsy said:
You know? The more I think about it, the more doubts I have about Mr. Smith quitting. He was a trusted and valued employee for 25 years. I am sure he was counted upon to fulfill his duties. Then in the normal course of business events he up and quits.. I would not hire him if I knew of this event. How long would he have to work for any business to owe allegiance to it? Nope! I would hire someone else that I did not know this about.
Betsy
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Hate to burst your bubble again. This is the article from the Atlanta Journal.

Childress Team Member Leaves: NASCAR's controversial decision to allow liquor sponsorships has caused a popular personality in the garages to quit because of his religious convictions. David Smith, a former crew chief for the late Dale Earnhardt and team manager and pit crew coach for Richard Childress Racing, told Childress during the offseason that he couldn't work on a car backed by a liquor company. Last season, Childress teams were sponsored by AOL, Cingular and Goodwrench. When AOL dropped out, Jack Daniels took the spot. "The absolute hardest part of this deal was to tell Richard that I was leaving after 25 years," said Smith, who in four decades has been a six-time all-pro jackman. I had a great job, the best anybody could ask for. I may never have a job as great as that again, but I'll have peace of mind from knowing that what I did was the right thing to do. That's worth more than money." Liquor sponsors Jack Daniel's, Jim Beam and Crown Royal will be prominent throughout the sport this season. Smith said his decision actually was made years ago when he gave up his wayward ways to become a Christian. "I trusted the Lord with my life, and He changed it around for me," Smith said. "I went to work for Richard in 1979 and told him when I went there that I'd work for him as long as he didn't have an alcohol or dirty magazine or gambling sponsorship on his car. And he was OK with that." Dave Blaney, who drives the #07 [RCR Chevy] sponsored by Jack Daniel's, said he's not much of a drinker, but he's proud to be associated with his sponsor. Childress said that although he and Smith are on different sides of the liquor issue he still respects him highly. "I've admired David Smith for years," Childress said. "I've always said I wish I could have been as strong a man as he was many, many years ago."(Atlanta Journal-Constitution)(1-21-2005)
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Now, go take your medicine.
 
esorlxaw said:
so, out of curiosity, if Kyle Petty or Jeff Green won the pole, then there would be no Bud Pole Award winner that week, right? I mean, Kyle or Jeff would start first, but no award would be given out...or would they give it to the 2nd place qualifier? I don't know...does anyone? I'd love to see it happen for Kyle, I know that.
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They would be on the pole (I would think) but I doubt they would accept the award...

I read something about this several years ago. I'll see if I can find it.
 
esorlxaw said:
so, out of curiosity, if Kyle Petty or Jeff Green won the pole, then there would be no Bud Pole Award winner that week, right? I mean, Kyle or Jeff would start first, but no award would be given out...or would they give it to the 2nd place qualifier? I don't know...does anyone? I'd love to see it happen for Kyle, I know that.
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There would be no bud pole award, because they do not participate. also they would not qualify for the bud shootout. I wonder why they drive in beer sponsored events? Oh well. :beerbang:
 
buckaroo said:
One of my coworkers talked to David Smith the other day and told me this. David quit RCR after 25 years simply because of a new sponsor. David quit because of the new liquor sponsor that Childress aquired. It all came down to the time when David read a pamphlet from Jack Daniels listing birthdays of those connected with RCR. When he saw his birthday and that of his son, that was all he needed. He took a hike, keeping his convictions with him.

I'm not sure I could do that, but I applaud someone who can stick with their beliefs even when it could cause a life change. David told my friend that he didn't have any other offers when he quit and didn't know what he would do, but did acknowledge that he now has several offers to choose from.
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Total BS. My opinion is he used this as an excuse to sell himself for more money. Crap at the best is this reason.
 
This has happened in the past and here's what happens. The Bub Pole Award is a contingency award which gives money to the "top" qualifier who carries the Bud decal on the quarter panel. As for the starting spot, qualifying is qualifying and the top gun sits on the pole. However, the Budweiser Shootout features Bud Pole winners and only Bud Pole winners. If the car didn't carry the decal, it didn't quailify. Such is the same for the other contingency award winners. Remember those pit stop contests? If you remember, they always say when they are announcing the winner that this is the top team that participated in the program.

PEI has in the past won poles and the driver didn't participate in the annual Bud Shootout.

Fergy, thanks for backing up my story. I only go with what my friends tell me and while I've had a few yarns from them, some of them are right.

Damn, coming from Winston Salem, I feel like Mike Mulhern. :confused:
 
pbunch said:
Total BS. My opinion is he used this as an excuse to sell himself for more money. Crap at the best is this reason.
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Bunch, you question the one and only? And you call yerself a friend. Well I have a mind to ... :cool:
 
buckaroo said:
Bunch, you question the one and only? And you call yerself a friend. Well I have a mind to ... :cool:
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Just needed you're attention buddy. :beerbang: :)
 
Howdy Fergy
Hate to burst your bubble again. This is the article from the Atlanta Journal.

Just what exactly would you expect them folks to say to the news paper people? They have to be politically correct at all times. If they thought as I do they could not say what they thought! Would YOu want all the christian teetotalers in your hair for something you said?
Betsy
 
they would be on the pole but couldn't be in the bud shootout.
i remember when andretti was with them he won a pole the next year richard let him drive for someone else in the shootout. richard said he would never have a beer sponsor on his car because he promised his mom he wouldn't
 
Betsy said:
Howdy Fergy
Hate to burst your bubble again. This is the article from the Atlanta Journal.

Just what exactly would you expect them folks to say to the news paper people? They have to be politically correct at all times. If they thought as I do they could not say what they thought! Would YOu want all the christian teetotalers in your hair for something you said?
Betsy
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de7xwcc said:
richard said he would never have a beer sponsor on his car because he promised his mom he wouldn't
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What?!?!?!? How DARE he!!!! He promised his mother something and honored it all these years? Complete and utter bull crap. He did it for attention and money!!!! Everyone knows STP stands for Scotch, Tequilla, and Pabst!!! He just wanted to be politically correct. What would all those Southern Baptist say????
 
i wonder if smith will watch nascar now because they allow jack daniels ads

i love how he used to abuse it, but now he is so self rightious
 
de7xwcc said:
Richard said he would never have a beer sponsor on his car because he promised his mom he wouldn't
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Guess he never promised her not to produce any alcoholic products.

Now he's making wines. Will probably go into that full time eventually and get out of racing.

I don't know. Beer, wine, liquor. What's the difference? Maybe drunks at different economic levels? :p
 
bumpzter said:
Guess he never promised her not to produce any alcoholic products.

Now he's making wines. Will probably go into that full time eventually and get out of racing.

I don't know. Beer, wine, liquor. What's the difference? Maybe drunks at different economic levels? :p
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bumpzter, wrong Richard. Richard PETTY promised his mother that he would never allow a sponsor sticker/logo on any of his cars or take any sponsor money from any that were associated with an alcoholic beverage. You mistook the statement to be Richard Childress, and yes, he has a winery.
 
majestyx said:
bumpzter, wrong Richard. Richard PETTY promised his mother that he would never allow a sponsor sticker/logo on any of his cars or take any sponsor money from any that were associated with an alcoholic beverage. You mistook the statement to be Richard Childress, and yes, he has a winery.
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Oops. Sorry. My apologies. Thanks for setting that straight, majesty. There's no way I'd question the Pettys stand.
 
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