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apparently NOL doesn't want to open up their mouth towards the fine...anybody know how much it was?
 
Marty Smiths column says something to the effect that he knows...it says it was a large sum...Carl was on probation in cup, but does the probation carry over to busch? If it does, I wouldn't be surprised for 125,000 dollars and 60 points in busch..not that it matters, it wouldnt only HELP harvick solidify his points lead...
 
It could even be as late as Wednesday before penalties are handed out. Since the COT is being tested today at Michigan.

I imagine it could be large ---
 
According to the NASCAR website

the fine is $20,000 and he's on probation.


I don't think that is a particularly large amount of money. We all know how effective
probation is.
 
Edwards given fine, probation for MIS actions
No points taken for post-race altercation with Earnhardt Jr.
NASCAR News Release
August 22, 2006
04:35 PM EDT (20:35 GMT)


DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR announced Tuesday that Carl Edwards, driver of the No. 60 Ford in the NASCAR Busch Series, has been fined and placed on probation due to a rule violation at Michigan International Speedway on Aug. 19.

Edwards was fined $20,000 for violating Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing: hitting another competitor's car after the completion of the race) of the 2006 NASCAR Busch Series Rule Book.

He was also placed on probation until Dec. 31.

Dale Earnhardt Jr. slammed into the rear end of Edwards' No. 60 Ford early in a green-white-checkered finish in Saturday's Carfax 250, sending Edwards spinning down the track and nearly taking Gordon with him. That gave two-time Busch champion Earnhardt his second Busch win in four starts this season and the 22nd of his career.

Edwards first drove onto pit road and momentarily parked in Earnhardt's pit. Then he drove back onto the track as the field drove slowly by behind the pace car, banging hard into the side of Earnhardt's No. 8 Chevrolet.

"I didn't mean to spin him out. I don't go around wrecking people," Earnhardt said. "I wouldn't have waited two years to get back at him for wrecking me in Atlanta in 2004 pretty much the same way. (B.S.)

"We got a run off that corner, and Carl just got sideways and he wasn't in the gas. I guess he was pretty mad at me, but there wasn't much I could do."

Earnhardt, the most popular driver in NASCAR, was loudly booed by the crowd when replays showed on the big screens as he got to Victory Lane.

Asked if he saw Edwards coming off pit road, Earnhardt shook his head and said, "I had my hand out the window. He could have taken my hand off. But he didn't. Pretty stupid. That was just rude."

Edwards, who was called to the NASCAR hauler after the race, appeared to have cooled down considerably after getting out of his car. "He just wrecked me off [Turn] 2," Edwards said. "I just wanted to make sure he knew I was mad that he wrecked me. It's racing."

Biggie. Paid for out of Jack's change jar.
 
^ yup.

I think there should be another zero on there, and probations need to carry over from series to series.
 
May need to sit out a few races in busch and cup.

Harvick had to set out a race for something he did in the trucks
 
NASCAR Fines Edwards $20,000
NASCAR announced today that Carl Edwards, driver of the No. 60 Ford in the NASCAR Busch Series, has been fined and placed on probation due to a rule violation at Michigan International Speedway on Aug. 19. Edwards was fined $20,000 for violating Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing: hitting another competitor’s car after the completion of the race) of the 2006 NASCAR Busch Series Rule Book. He was also placed on probation until Dec. 31, 2006. ...Daily Headlines
 
From Catchfence.com

Roush Racing's Reaction To Carl Edwards' NASCAR Penalty Announcement: Roush Racing announced today that Carl Edwards recognizes and accepts NASCAR's penalty and will not appeal. “I put everything I can into winning races,” stated Edwards. “I was wrecked and I reacted. It was wrong on my part. NASCAR penalized me and I respect that. Most importantly I apologize if I upset any of my fans or sponsors.”
- Roush Racing, Press Release
 
hmm, I know Carl is not as hot headed as Tony, but whos to say Roush did not just put that out there, like Gibbs could of done with Tony?
 
Lappy, it isn't just Gibbs who will do this, but rather the entire group of owners. They must appease their sponsors and can't let a unmanageable emotions cause concern. They all probably have a PR department that will take care of things like this.
 
"We got a run off that corner, and Carl just got sideways and he wasn't in the gas. I guess he was pretty mad at me, but there wasn't much I could do."
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And, yet Lil'E had no problems coming almost to a dead stop in the Cup race when he had to avoid hitting the 49. It was a BS move that the Lil'E apologists are going to spin that he just couldn't avoid it. Like Mikey has said over and over when you hit the guy in the rear it is your fault.
Hey, Lil'E find a pair, step up to the plate and take responsibility.
 
Lap3Forever said:
May need to sit out a few races in busch and cup.
Harvick had to set out a race for something he did in the trucks
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Unless memory fails me, a distinct possibility at this stage of time in my life, Harvick was set down for a one race penalty in the Winston Cup Series because he disrespected NASCAR's authority. Harvick was placed on probation in the CTS for his actions during the race at Martinsville.

Immediately after the on-track incident in the CTS with Gibbs, Havick was told to report to the NASCAR trailer. Harvick drove his truck to the trailer, parked, got out and a NASCAR official told Harvick to go right on inside.
Harvick replied, "I'm going to my motorhome. If they want me they can come see me there", or words to that effect.

The end result was, no amount of apology from Harvick or pleading by Richard Childress, RCR and General Motors could pacify NASCAR officials. At that point, the message from NASCAR was to tell everyone who is in charge and that message needed to go through the garage, loud and clear.
 
Whizzer said:
Harvick was set down for a one race penalty in the Winston Cup Series because he disrespected NASCAR's authority. Harvick was placed on probation Immediately after the on-track incident in the CTS with Gibbs, Havick was told to report to the NASCAR trailer. Harvick drove his truck to the trailer, parked, got out and a NASCAR official told Harvick to go right on inside.

Harvick replied, "I'm going to my motorhome. If they want me they can come see me there", or words to that effect.
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But in reality, what's the difference between this and hitting someone after the race, which NASCAR has repeatedly told drivers to stop/not do? This is a safety issue, not a racing incident or any other politically correct racing term. Is not just as disrespectful?

At least NASCAR is consistant....."You better not do that again or we'll tell you not to do it again."

You can say s%&# on national TV and lose 25 points. Hit someone in the pits or after the race and get a slap on the wrist.... :rolleyes:
 
barelypure said:
And, yet Lil'E had no problems coming almost to a dead stop in the Cup race when he had to avoid hitting the 49. It was a BS move that the Lil'E apologists are going to spin that he just couldn't avoid it. Like Mikey has said over and over when you hit the guy in the rear it is your fault.
Hey, Lil'E find a pair, step up to the plate and take responsibility.
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I won't spin it.
He could have lifted, but he didn't and wrecked him to win the race.
Happens all the time.
 
I agree. And, what's more I'm not condemning his actions. Just his and some of his spin-meisters who want to play it off as something he couldn't have avoided. When he clearly showed the next day that he knew where the brake pedal was.
 
barelypure said:
I agree. And, what's more I'm not condemning his actions. Just his and some of his spin-meisters who want to play it off as something he couldn't have avoided. When he clearly showed the next day that he knew where the brake pedal was.
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Two clearly different incidents in which any driver would react accordingly. Dale Jr. is not my favorite driver, i do consider him to be quite a stand up guy though and very respectful of his fellow racers. Saturdays' incident was just that a racing incident, i would more than bet if you polled all the Cup drivers that 99% of them would of reacted the same as Jr. I think when some one is loose like Edwards was, all bets are off, you have to think of yourself, not the other guy. :rolleyes:
 
barelypure said:
I agree. And, what's more I'm not condemning his actions. Just his and some of his spin-meisters who want to play it off as something he couldn't have avoided. When he clearly showed the next day that he knew where the brake pedal was.
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yea your right barley...because we both know that the wreck on saturday and jr being able to stop on sunday were exactly the same!!

Jr was within inches of Edwards with 2 laps to go...im not a race car driver...but i do know that if you follow that close on the highway and the person in front of you has a problem..well your going to hit them....its a law to not drive that close on the highway...its not against the rules to do that in nascar.

if you dont like drivers driving that close to each other...then go watch F1 or IRL...you guys say you want to see beating and banging...and when it happens and someone spins out...you complain!

the wreck that didnt happen on sunday was completly different...if you cant see that...then your an idiot plain and simple...jr was on the low side and Lepage was up high...jr had enough time to see him and get on the brakes...did he have that much time on saturday? nope...if he did...i dont think he would have got into the back up Edwards.



do you really think Jr did it on purpose?

Apparently Nascar doesnt...if they did...he would have been fined also.
 
Well thank you for calling me an idiot. I haven't been called one for a good 24 hours and I just wasn't feeling the love in the room. Since you want to take this to a personal level, how about taking a reading comprehension class. Reread my 2nd sentence - And, what's more I'm not condemning his actions. So where do you get that I'm complaining over the hit. My problem is with the maroons (as Bugs used to say) who want to defend the guy and don't see how he's not willing to take responsibility.
As to the difference between Saturday and Sunday, I'd argue that someone, esp. a maroon, would have hit Lapage when he suddenly appeared in front of you and you had to get on the brakes that hard. Maybe Edwards and Lil'E were inches apart but they were travelling at nearly the same speeds.
Also, because NASCAR didn't fine Lil'E doesn't mean squat. It was a racing incident. Now sack up and say yeah he spun him on purpose. He was going for the win and the gloves were off. To try and play it off as oh he's so sorry to have spun Edwards. He's a prince of a guy and doesn't race that way, blah, blah, blah, is showing your own moronic ideas of what racing is.
And, to return your question, Do you really think if it had been Jeff Burton behind Edwards he would have hit him?
 
didnt call you an idiot barley..i said if you cant see the difference then your an idiot.

surely you can see the difference in the those 2 events.

i think anyone behind Edwards would have ran into him...but im sure you wont agree with me there.
 
barelypure said:
Well thank you for calling me an idiot. I haven't been called one for a good 24 hours and I just wasn't feeling the love in the room. Since you want to take this to a personal level, how about taking a reading comprehension class. Reread my 2nd sentence - And, what's more I'm not condemning his actions. So where do you get that I'm complaining over the hit. My problem is with the maroons (as Bugs used to say) who want to defend the guy and don't see how he's not willing to take responsibility.
As to the difference between Saturday and Sunday, I'd argue that someone, esp. a maroon, would have hit Lapage when he suddenly appeared in front of you and you had to get on the brakes that hard. Maybe Edwards and Lil'E were inches apart but they were travelling at nearly the same speeds.
Also, because NASCAR didn't fine Lil'E doesn't mean squat. It was a racing incident. Now sack up and say yeah he spun him on purpose. He was going for the win and the gloves were off. To try and play it off as oh he's so sorry to have spun Edwards. He's a prince of a guy and doesn't race that way, blah, blah, blah, is showing your own moronic ideas of what racing is.
And, to return your question, Do you really think if it had been Jeff Burton behind Edwards he would have hit him?
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Yep i think Burton would of hit him too.
 
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