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Jimmy Spencer will be eligible to return at Darlington in two weeks. Credit: Autostock
Spencer suspended for Bristol week


August 18, 2003
3:13 PM EDT (1913 GMT)
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Drivers Jimmy Spencer and Kurt Busch were issued penalties for their roles in a post-race altercation that occurred in the garage area of Sunday's NASCAR Winston Cup Series race at Michigan International Speedway, NASCAR officials announced today.

Spencer is suspended from any NASCAR-sanctioned competition until Aug. 26. He also received a $25,000 fine and was placed on probation until Dec. 31. The suspension will cause him to miss this weekend's NASCAR national series triple-header at Bristol Motor Speedway.

Spencer was in violation of Sections 12-4-A (Actions detrimental to stock car racing: Involved in an altercation with another competitor in the garage area after the completion of the event) and 12-4-F (Fighting) of the NASCAR Winston Cup Series rule book.

Busch has been placed on probation until Dec. 31 for his actions. He was in violation of Section 12-4-A (Actions detrimental to stock car racing: Involved in an altercation with another competitor in the garage area after the completion of the event) of the NASCAR Winston Cup Series rule book.

"This was a very unfortunate situation," NASCAR President Mike Helton said. "Emotions are a part of every sport, NASCAR Winston Cup racing included. However, there is a fine line. In this instance, that fine line was crossed."
 
Good, I hope he kicks his again at Darlington, I hate Kurt Busch
 
I hope he does to. So maybe the fat boy will get sit out the rest of the year. I am not a fan of Kurt Busch but there are some drivers I like less. And Spencer is one of them. :D
 
Kurt is a pathetic little antagonist. He got EXACTLY what he deserved from Spencer!!!
 
Well, that should prevent a couple cautions and at least one fight. Good timing to suspend spencer, actually. hehe.
 
I dunno, I was kind of looking foward to the two hooking up on the track at Bristol heh. If I remember right, isnt Bristol the track where this all started?
 
It was actually Phoenix in 2001 when Kurt Busch was leading, Spencer spun him out, if I am correct.
 
Bristol was one of the three incidents that led to this one, I believe.
 
Thats too bad for Jimmy, he was planning on the triple header this weeked....

And we all thought that Tony Stewart had anger problems....
 
I'm new here and wanted to express my thoughts about this deal with little Kurty and Spencer.

People like little Kurty don't belong in American racing or baseball. They belong in games like badmittin, tap dancing, and lawn bowling.

You don't participate in hard ball like this and call the cops when you get racked.

I liked what drslingshot called little Kurty, an antagonist!

That's how these guys are, they talk trash and play hard ball, then call the cops when you charge the mound.

I have no respect for the little punk now. Was very indifferent about him, uh until now. Didn't really care too much for Spencer.......until now!
 
What would you think if you are sitting in a car and you get punched in the face. If spencer wanted a fight, why didn't he at least let Kurt get out of the car? Or pull him out and then fight him? Sorry, SilverRam, but I see what Jimmy Spencer did as flat out assault. I don't even like Kurt Busch that much, but I really can't see Jimmy Spencer's action being tolerated in any situation, whether it be in racing or w/in the law.A single race suspension and a fine hardly seems like enough for ANY PERSON who would do something like that.
 
I don't really mind when two people get into a good old fashioned brawl. But sucker punching someone who is sitting in a car is kind of lame. He could have dealt with the situation much better then he did.

But, I like the fact that we have people like Jimmy in the garage, because not much personality is coming into the sport from the younger drivers, IMHO.
 
You can lable beaning a hitter as assault too.
or Charging the mound, but it's part of the game, and so are the punching exchanges in the garage area.

Kurty needs to learn to keep his mouth shut!

Actually, he needs to get out of Nascar. Make room for a real man. One who knows how to shut up and drive.

This whole thing has made me a Spencer fan.

Oh and did I hear Robby Gordon say "I'll pay Spencers fine"???? I saw this on Nascar tonight or something like it.
 
Originally posted by SilverRam@Aug 19 2003, 01:28 AM
I'm new here and wanted to express my thoughts about this deal with little Kurty and Spencer.

People like little Kurty don't belong in American racing or baseball. They belong in games like badmittin, tap dancing, and lawn bowling.

You don't participate in hard ball like this and call the cops when you get racked.

I liked what drslingshot called little Kurty, an antagonist!

That's how these guys are, they talk trash and play hard ball, then call the cops when you charge the mound.

I have no respect for the little punk now. Was very indifferent about him, uh  until now. Didn't really care too much for Spencer.......until now!
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And people like you have no business saying who belongs in what sport. How do you know Kurt called the police? According to the articles I've seen there where right there when it happened. You are just making things up.
 
I just can't agree w/ you, SilverRam. I respect your opinion, but I hate to think sucker punches in the face are a part of my sport. People seem to not like Kurt Busch's mouth and driving style when it doesn't seem to be far off from what Jimmy Spencer says or does to other drivers. Difference is Kurt hasn't been around for awhile, and apparently not welcome. I feel sorry for the kid. You'd think the adult would have been the bigger man in this situation.
 
Originally posted by gordon24fan@Aug 19 2003, 02:10 AM
He should have been suspended for more than one race.
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I couldn't agree more. :cheers:
 
I agree with y'all. This is what is holding us back, after the 2002 Bristol Night Race where basically everyone, I saw on Pardon the Interruption that they said that it was a WWF Wrestling Match. That statement is ridiculous, regardless whether Kurt Busch provoked Jimmy Spencer or not, Spencer's actions are still pretty damn stupid especially when in recent times we havent seen one shred of Kurt Busch ever taking Jimmy Spencer out on the track, I thought him being one of the veterans should know better, guess we were wrong.
 
Well, you guys will see.

Bristol is a hill-billy track, and those people are going to let Kurt know how much he is unwanted in their sport.

All those hillbillies will come out of the mountains for this one.

I'll be watching all I can this week.

If Kurty doesn't make a statement very soon apologizing for his part of the whole thing, then he's gunna get hurt even more in the future.

The tide has already turned on him within the inner circles of Nascar. Sure Nascar punished Spencer, but don't even think for one second that it wasn't only for publicity.

This is probably going to be looked at as one of the best things Jimmy Spencer could have done for his career. Jimmy Spencer is becoming the image of the Nascar we used to know.

Nascar is not a nancy boy sport my friends. Those people are serious down there, they don't like the city slickers, and they won't put up with a mouthy little Biaitch like Busch.
 
Mouthy little Biatch ? Tell me, who the hell said that the Pepsi 400 when Dale Jr. won was fixed ? You know, even the pure traditionalists of NASCAR wouldnt agree with your views at all, who the hell are you calling city slickers ? You do know that the Union did win the war right ? You do know that a treaty WAS signed at appromattox courthouse proclaiming the end of the civil war ?

What nancy boys ? Theyre racers, and for one Jimmy Spencer acts like a drunk, not a racer. Ramming people for fun isnt racing, it's demoltion derby and not NASCAR.

I dont care if the southern folk will flock to it and turn against NASCAR as you say which I highly doubt will happen. But NASCAR will never become this wild wild west type sport you want it to be. Do you want drivers to fight it out like the WWF ? I bet you do. It's those radical views that keep NASCAR from reaching to all people around the country and which make NASCAR target pratice for all the sport commentators around the country.
 
Originally posted by SilverRam@Aug 19 2003, 02:37 AM
Well, you guys will see.

Bristol is a hill-billy track, and those people are going to let Kurt know how much he is unwanted in their sport.

All those hillbillies will come out of the mountains for this one.

I'll be watching all I can this week.

If Kurty doesn't make a statement very soon apologizing for his part of the whole thing, then he's gunna get hurt even more in the future.

The tide has already turned on him within the inner circles of Nascar. Sure Nascar punished Spencer, but don't even think for one second that it wasn't only for publicity.

This is probably going to be looked at as one of the best things Jimmy Spencer could have done for his career. Jimmy Spencer is becoming the image of the Nascar we used to know.

Nascar is not a nancy boy sport my friends. Those people are serious down there, they don't like the city slickers, and they won't put up with a mouthy little Biaitch like Busch.
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Don't take this the wrong way but you're a mental case.
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I didn't say they will turn on Nascar, I said they will turn on Busch.

Those radical views are what made Nascar.

And it was the first live broadcast of the Daytona 500 that ended with a fist fight that started the ratings to sky rocket in 1980. Donny Allison and Cale Yarborough duked it out.

It is the bad ass good ol boy image that sparked Nascars rise to fame. The further they get away from that image the less popular they will become.

Actually I see a polorization developing in Nascar. Between the old fashioned good ol boys, and the new city slickers.

This clash between Spencer and Busch is a ripe one. Spencer for one came from the north east, Pocono area I believe, and has found it hard to be accepted in Nascar, but now he's found his place. He's just using Busch as a stepping stone.

Why do you think Busch talks trash about Spencer so much?

I'll tell ya why, becuase the tention is between the drivers crews. have you ever been in a garage area with a race car your dad was driving? I have, and your right next to the other crews, like the cars are a few feet away and the crews are bumping elbows. It's close quarters, and tempers heat up.

Those crews have been taunting each other for over a year now, and Busch can't take it, so he expresses himself to the media like a poosy, instead of keeping it in house. Spencer now has his chance to prove to the good ol boys that he is one of them, and he is winning.

Busch is seen as the city slicken cry baby and Spencer is seen as the good ol boy, smoken a big stoggy!

That is what this is all about.

Those two crews are polorized by a cultural gap, and the culture shock in Nascar is beginning to explode.

What this will result in is one of the older drivers gaining an emense popluarity like what we saw with the late great Dale Earnhardt. Who will it be?

my prediction.............
 
Originally posted by SilverRam@Aug 19 2003, 03:20 AM


This clash between Spencer and Busch is a ripe one. Spencer for one came from the north east, Pocono area I believe, and has found it hard to be accepted in Nascar, but now he's found his place. He's just using Busch as a stepping stone.
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Spencer is on his way up? You are just joking right? Look at their records, what are you talking about? Is that why Kurt is 9th in the points and Jimmy is 28th? How about last year? Kurt finished 4th and Jimmy 27th. But we need drivers like Jimmy. Why so we can go slower? Spencer will be lucky if he keeps his job.
 
Originally posted by rpmallen@Aug 19 2003, 01:35 AM
What would you think if you are sitting in a car and you get punched in the face. If spencer wanted a fight, why didn't he at least let Kurt get out of the car? Or pull him out and then fight him? Sorry, SilverRam, but I see what Jimmy Spencer did as flat out assault. I don't even like Kurt Busch that much, but I really can't see Jimmy Spencer's action being tolerated in any situation, whether it be in racing or w/in the law.A single race suspension and a fine hardly seems like enough for ANY PERSON who would do something like that.
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What would you do if someone kept on calling you things like" washed-up ol' has been", and a "Never Was" for over a year? I'll tell ya what you would do if you were a normal MAN! You'd do the samething Jimmy did!
 
I really kind of expected Jimmy to be suspended for more than one week. But this is a good week for him to have to sit out, with 3 races he would have run in coming up. Hitting a defensless guy is BS no matter what the provocation. I'm just curius that we haven't heard from Jimmy's sponsor as of yet. :unsure:

I was very glad to hear that Kurt was also punished as he has certainly not been completely innocent in this whole deal. He seems to have gone out of his way to tick several older, more established drivers off. I feel this is an attempt tp draw attention to himself at their expense. Although I do think most of his comments about Spenser have been quite entertaining, they should be addressed. While Spenser is certainly not a top-flight driver, he deserves more respect from a newbie than Mr Busch has been giving him.

I think NASCAR handled this fairly well and it should be out in the past and lets get on to Bristol. Man I love the short tracks. :salute:
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Aug 19 2003, 07:53 AM
I think NASCAR handled this fairly well and it should be out in the past and lets get on to Bristol. Man I love the short tracks. :salute:
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I am with you 4X, and I am sure there will be more tempers this weekend.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Aug 19 2003, 06:53 AM
I'm just curius that we haven't heard from Jimmy's sponsor as of yet.
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Maybe we haven't heard from Sirrus because they are out at the end of the year and they don't really care. Just a thought.
 
Originally posted by BlueFusion+Aug 19 2003, 06:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlueFusion @ Aug 19 2003, 06:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--rpmallen@Aug 19 2003, 01:35 AM
What would you think if you are sitting in a car and you get punched in the face. If spencer wanted a fight, why didn't he at least let Kurt get out of the car? Or pull him out and then fight him? Sorry, SilverRam, but I see what Jimmy Spencer did as flat out assault. I don't even like Kurt Busch that much, but I really can't see Jimmy Spencer's action being tolerated in any situation, whether it be in racing or w/in the law.A single race suspension and a fine hardly seems like enough for ANY PERSON who would do something like that.
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What would you do if someone kept on calling you things like" washed-up ol' has been", and a "Never Was" for over a year? I'll tell ya what you would do if you were a normal MAN! You'd do the samething Jimmy did! [/b][/quote]
You obviously have no idea what being a MAN is about.
 
What ar you talking about. Drivers , Nascar or Southern Hillbillies as you call them will not turn on Kurt Busch. The cops were already at the car before Kurt even got out so he didn't call. If you gonna tell something at least tell ont that is beliveable.
 
Gollum, I know what I'm talkin about.

I don't care if the cops were there to see it, Kunt Busch better not press charges. It's his decision. If he does you'll see him black balled for sure. He won't be able to rely on anyone out on the track.

I know this for sure, Mike Heltin will straiten that wuss up.

Mark my words.
 
Straighten Kurt Busch out ? For what, getting punched, being the victim? Makes no sense to me
 
Originally posted by SilverRam@Aug 19 2003, 06:53 PM
Gollum, I know what I'm talkin about.

I don't care if the cops were there to see it, Kunt Busch better not press charges. It's his decision. If he does you'll see him black balled for sure. He won't be able to rely on anyone out on the track.

I know this for sure, Mike Heltin will straiten that wuss up.

Mark my words.
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EEEEENNNNNOOOOOUUUUUGGGGGHHHHH

Enough, already. Drop it!!!!! :angry:
 
What ever you Silver ram. Now open the door slowly and walk back into your padded room. :lol:



Ok Maj. OK Ok. I am done. :lol: :lol:
 
Yes I am also done as well.

....Anyone have a tape of Roger Clemens breaking that 300 win mark ? Been looking for it everywhere !
 
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