Stenhouse blames Jeff G for not making race

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"I thought being the last car in line would be beneficial for us," Stenhouse said. "We had Jeff Gordon leading the pack there; I thought we would have a good shot at putting a good lap in, but my spotter was telling me '‘hey, you have 30 seconds to get across the start/finish line' as we were entering Turn 3.

"I don't guess the 24’s (spotter) was giving him a lot of information. He kept slowing the pack down and we didn't get a good lap and never got across


"My spotter was giving me the information I needed and I wish the 24 would have been doing the same."


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Gordon said the qualifying plan "was shot before the plan started."

"I messed up ultimately," the Hendrick Motorsports driver said. "I just mistimed getting to the line. The whole group was going so slow I knew I had to have a gap and when I came across the line I thought I had enough (time) to be able to complete that lap and get one more, which was the only way we were going to make it.

"But we came up short. It's a mess out there. It's not easy."

It was the second time this season a driver from the RFR stable failed to qualify for a Sprint Cup race. A week ago at Charlotte Motor Speedway, Nationwide Series regular Trevor Bayne was unable to qualify for the Bank of America 500 in a fourth RFR entry fielded just for that race.

Roush, whose organization also fields Sprint Cup entries for drivers Greg Biffle and Carl Edwards, didn't blame the qualifying format for the setback.

"We just didn't get on the race track fast enough and I'm not sure who actually made that call. I'm not sure if it was left up to Ricky or the spotter or (crew chief) Mike Kelley," Roush said. "It's my responsibility to make sure we execute our program so we have a chance to qualify. We clearly didn't do it here and that's an oversight."s the start/finish line in time.

"My spotter was giving me the information I needed and I wish the 24 would have been doing the same."


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JG was a split second from DNQ himself. Stenhouse was the one who chose to wait and go out next to last with JG but he's gotta blame somebody. Maybe next year he'll go out in the first group.
 
Johali said:
JG was a split second from DNQ himself.
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I don't believe that. I don't know what the rules are these days (hell, Nascar probably doesn't know either) but there has to be some kind of rule in place that gives provisionals to the top X amount of drivers in points (especially a Chase quailifier).

And LOL @ Stenhouse. Keep crying little Ricky!!! I don't feel the least bit sorry for him
 
I like the fact that you must qualify well to make the field.

But I don't like the format. It is a more interesting format than solitary SS laps. But at place dependent on drafting and packs it shouldn't replace a traditional qualifying lap imo.
 
What if every driver who finished 2nd cried like this because the car who won prevented them from finishing 1st? That would sound ridiculous.

Thats exactly how ricky sounds.
 
TooSweet said:
I don't believe that. I don't know what the rules are these days (hell, Nascar probably doesn't know either) but there has to be some kind of rule in place that gives provisionals to the top X amount of drivers in points (especially a Chase quailifier).

And LOL @ Stenhouse. Keep crying little Ricky!!! I don't feel the least bit sorry for him
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That's what they reported from the booth after qualifying yesterday.
 
TooSweet said:
I don't believe that. I don't know what the rules are these days (hell, Nascar probably doesn't know either) but there has to be some kind of rule in place that gives provisionals to the top X amount of drivers in points (especially a Chase quailifier).

And LOL @ Stenhouse. Keep crying little Ricky!!! I don't feel the least bit sorry for him
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Gordon was that close to missing the race and there's nothing the current rules could've done to save him.

Top 36 cars based on speed, next 6 spots by owner points and one previous champion provisional. Had Stenhouse been a bit quicker, #24 would've rolled their hauler out of Talladega last night.
 
at least stenhouse and danica can't crash each other. for jeff gordan to not make the race if carl edwards or ryan newman either one was in that last group and were faster than jeff gordon he fails to make the race, wouldn't that have been a story!!! Aside from stenhouse not making the race the fact that tony stewart is still ahead of him in points after missing 3 races is truly unacceptable. I know roush cars suck. but that is flat out terrible.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
What if every driver who finished 2nd cried like this because the car who won prevented them from finishing 1st? That would sound ridiculous.

Thats exactly how ricky sounds.
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That does happen but usually attributed to blocking or Biffle pushing Kenseth to win the 500, causing #88 to not win :)
 
#17D500winner said:
Gordon was that close to missing the race and there's nothing the current rules could've done to save him.

Top 36 cars based on speed, next 6 spots by owner points and one previous champion provisional. Had Stenhouse been a bit quicker, #24 would've rolled their hauler out of Talladega last night.
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I would have enjoyed seeing how that scenario would have played out. NASCAR brass had to have some serious late night discussions last night. cause there ain't a chance in hell they would have sent a chase racer home yesterday.

also wonder how many calls jack rousch made last night and if anyone answered them?
 
The Nascar "rulebook", much like their constant qualifying format changes, is a joke. I don't believe for a second they would allow any Chase driver, especially Gordon, to miss the race ESPECIALLY under such dumb circumstances. They would make up a new rule on the fly like they always seem to do
 
klemmabyna said:
I would have enjoyed seeing how that scenario would have played out. NASCAR brass had to have some serious late night discussions last night. cause there ain't a chance in hell they would have sent a chase racer home yesterday.

also wonder how many calls jack rousch made last night and if anyone answered them?
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You can be sure of that.
 
Although I do think it would have been interesting to see Hendrick buy Gordon a ride from Reed Sorensen or whoever, then watch them scramble to build it into a Hendrick car in a day. Gordon drives the #36 for a weekend, TBR gets a hefty chunk of change, everyone wins
 
So wait, you're telling me since it's Top 36 on speed if Ricky had got a time in, got top 36 and knocked Reed down..he would have made the race over Gordon? Really? Noooooooo Reed would had been going home not Gordon. That car is high enough in owner points to get it.
 
TooSweet said:
Although I do think it would have been interesting to see Hendrick buy Gordon a ride from Reed Sorensen or whoever, then watch them scramble to build it into a Hendrick car in a day. Gordon drives the #36 for a weekend, TBR gets a hefty chunk of change, everyone wins
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A few years ago Mikey DNQ'd at Daytona but bought the owners points from another car and drove his original car in the race. I tried to look it up but can't find the details.
 
Blaze88 said:
So wait, you're telling me since it's Top 36 on speed if Ricky had got a time in, got top 36 and knocked Reed down..he would have made the race over Gordon? Really? Noooooooo Reed would had been going home not Gordon. That car is high enough in owner points to get it.
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Only the top 6 in points were guaranteed a spot... but either way.. Pretty sure Jeff has PC2 he could have used if need be... Denny would have got the shaft instead.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Only the top 6 in points were guaranteed a spot... but either way.. Pretty sure Jeff has PC2 he could have used if need be... Denny would have got the shaft instead.
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Is it top 6 in points or owner points? because the 24 is 6th in owner points, Reed surely isn't so him being bumped out of the Top 36(i.e what is in on Speed) and making the race over Gordon would be stupid. I think people got a bit carried away thinking Gordon would had failed if Ricky made it.
 
Blaze88 said:
So wait, you're telling me since it's Top 36 on speed if Ricky had got a time in, got top 36 and knocked Reed down..he would have made the race over Gordon? Really? Noooooooo Reed would had been going home not Gordon. That car is high enough in owner points to get it.
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If Stenhouse had done that, Sorenson still would've been inside the top 36.
 
Blaze88 said:
Is it top 6 in points or owner points? because the 24 is 6th in owner points, Reed surely isn't so him being bumped out of the Top 36(i.e what is in on Speed) and making the race over Gordon would be stupid. I think people got a bit carried away thinking Gordon would had failed if Ricky made it.
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I didnt know the 24 was 6th.. but either way theres no way he would have missed the race... he has the champions provisional... Tony had to use it.. but there's 2
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Only the top 6 in points were guaranteed a spot... but either way.. Pretty sure Jeff has PC2 he could have used if need be... Denny would have got the shaft instead.
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Stewart used the only available PC provisional
 
Yes, Gordon has the owner points behind him but he still has to post a time faster then those who also have the same.
 
#17D500winner said:
Stewart used the only available PC provisional
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Yeah ur right.. its top 36 times... 6 owners points and 1 champions provisional

Well.. at least it was Stenhouse and not Gordon.. or I'd be avoiding this forum for the next week lol.. no desire in me whatsoever to listen to the amount of complaining that would be going on around here if that happened.
 
Blaze88 said:
So if Ricky started his time, and made the top 36..the car in 36th would have still been inside the top 36? good to know.
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The top 36 in owner points and therefore able to use one of the 6 available positions.
 
Who ever would have thought something like this could even happen... every provisional used? To the point that a full time driver has to miss the race.. Crazy.

Maybe they should STOP TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM!

Morons.
 
#17D500winner said:
The top 36 in owner points and therefore able to use one of the 6 available positions.
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It's not top 36 in owner points. It's as followed

Starting positions one (1) through thirty-six (36) will be determined by the fastest qualifying speeds, in accordance with the qualifying rules posted above(which is just the round thing), in descending order with the fast qualifier being first.

The next six (6) starting positions (37- 42) will be provisional starting positions that were not among the fastest 36 from qualifying. Provisional starting positions will be assigned to the highest ranked NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owners who are present at the Event and have entered the Event by the entry deadline and will be assigned in descending order until the six (6) provisional spots are filled. Once provisional starting positions have been assigned to the applicable NASCAR Sprint Cup Series car owners, they will be placed in the starting line up by their qualifying speed in descending order with the fastest qualifying speed starting thirty-seventh

If the 43rd provisional starting position is not filled by an eligible NASCAR Sprint Cup Series champion, it will be assigned to the next highest ranked car owner based on the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owner points. A current or former NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Champion driver shall be eligible for a "Champion's Provisional" once every six (6) qualifying attempts in the current season. If any starting positions remain unfilled, they will be assigned according to current calendar year NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owner point standings. In case of a tie, ties will be broken as set forth in the 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rule Book, sub-section 17-4, C-1 (usually owners points rank).

So see, Reed gone not Gordon.
 
Blaze88 said:
It's not top 36 in owner points. It's as followed

Starting positions one (1) through thirty-six (36) will be determined by the fastest qualifying speeds, in accordance with the qualifying rules posted above(which is just the round thing), in descending order with the fast qualifier being first.

The next six (6) starting positions (37- 42) will be provisional starting positions that were not among the fastest 36 from qualifying. Provisional starting positions will be assigned to the highest ranked NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owners who are present at the Event and have entered the Event by the entry deadline and will be assigned in descending order until the six (6) provisional spots are filled. Once provisional starting positions have been assigned to the applicable NASCAR Sprint Cup Series car owners, they will be placed in the starting line up by their qualifying speed in descending order with the fastest qualifying speed starting thirty-seventh

If the 43rd provisional starting position is not filled by an eligible NASCAR Sprint Cup Series champion, it will be assigned to the next highest ranked car owner based on the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owner points. A current or former NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Champion driver shall be eligible for a "Champion's Provisional" once every six (6) qualifying attempts in the current season. If any starting positions remain unfilled, they will be assigned according to current calendar year NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship car owner point standings. In case of a tie, ties will be broken as set forth in the 2014 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Rule Book, sub-section 17-4, C-1 (usually owners points rank).

So see, Reed gone not Gordon.
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Fair enough.
 
I was a bit irritated. The thing is it shows the mediocrity of his cup career so far as well. He has to continue to improve because he can use this as motivation. He's by no means a bad driver, but he has to step it up if he wants his seat. I'm pretty sure Jack could hire someone else.

Keep your head up youngster because that session was bs, but what is done is done. I expect to see Ricky perform better after this.
 
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