Stewart Not So Bad.........

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Back in the '80s and '90s, Dale Earnhardt was by far the most aggressive driver in not just NASCAR, but in all of motorsports. Earnhardt earned most of his fans that way - by bumping his way to victory (and to seven Cup championships). But now Tony Stewart bumps someone 20 laps into a race and it's a big deal? Well, it shouldn't.

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No denying it, if NASCAR ever had a dirtier driver than earnhardt, it might have been Curtis Turner. And that's a big if. It's also the reason I couldn't stand Earnhardt. Pass em clean or run second.
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@May 19 2004, 06:21 PM
No denying it, if NASCAR ever had a dirtier driver than earnhardt, it might have been Curtis Turner.  And that's a big if.  It's also the reason I couldn't stand Earnhardt.  Pass em clean or run second.
You have got to be kidding? Clean.... I don't think so.. If you were supposed to race clean each car would be insured by Geiko. If you are worried about bumping someone.... Take up another sport.

Now, I am not for taking someone out of the race intentionally, but if you can get a bumper on them, make them loose and race past them (Gordon and Wallace at Bristol) rock on!

Heck even Biffle is getting soft when he let that guy win last week. He could have easily bumped and run him. And if was Kevin Harvick, he would have.
 
Originally posted by WideOpenPhoto@May 19 2004, 06:47 PM
You have got to be kidding? Clean.... I don't think so.. If you were supposed to race clean each car would be insured by Geiko. If you are worried about bumping someone.... Take up another sport.
I agree with you WideOpenPhoto!! Finally.. FINALLY someone sees the true colors of racing. If I wanted to watch a "Geiko" type race, then I would pull up a lawnchair beside the four-lane.
 
Originally posted by slick-nick+May 19 2004, 07:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slick-nick @ May 19 2004, 07:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--WideOpenPhoto@May 19 2004, 06:47 PM
You have got to be kidding?&nbsp; Clean.... I don't think so.. If you were supposed to race clean each car would be insured by Geiko.&nbsp; If you are worried about bumping someone.... Take up another sport.
I agree with you WideOpenPhoto!! Finally.. FINALLY someone sees the true colors of racing. If I wanted to watch a "Geiko" type race, then I would pull up a lawnchair beside the four-lane. [/b][/quote]
I thought about pullin up a chair to I-20 here. They don't call it death valley for nothing! :unsure: :lol:
 
Originally posted by WideOpenPhoto@May 19 2004, 07:47 PM

You have got to be kidding? Clean.... I don't think so.. If you were supposed to race clean each car would be insured by Geiko. If you are worried about bumping someone.... Take up another sport.

Now, I am not for taking someone out of the race intentionally, but if you can get a bumper on them, make them loose and race past them (Gordon and Wallace at Bristol) rock on!

Heck even Biffle is getting soft when he let that guy win last week. He could have easily bumped and run him. And if was Kevin Harvick, he would have.
Bumping is one thing. Earnhardting is another. I have far more respect for the Mark Martins and Terry Labontes than I do the Johnny Sauters and Jimmy Spencers of the world. Getting someone loose, leaning in the turn, no problem. Bashing your way around someone is a different animal.

And who the heck would want to be Kevin Harvick anyway? :huh:
 
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Back in the ‘80s and ‘90s, Dale Earnhardt was by far the most aggressive driver in not just NASCAR, but in all of motorsports. Earnhardt earned most of his fans that way - by bumping his way to victory (and to seven Cup championships). But now Tony Stewart bumps someone 20 laps into a race and it’s a big deal? Well, it shouldn’t.


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It seems that since Stewart ran into the lapped car of Andy Hillenburg at Darlington in March, it started a string of races in which the 2002 Cup Champion had his share of run-ins with various drivers. Stewart was blamed by many for starting “The Big One” at Talladega last month, when he cut below Kurt Busch entering turn three, in which Busch went to block, and took out about 12 cars in the process.

For those new fans in NASCAR who may doubt Stewart’s ability to race, please don’t. Ever since his rookie year in 1999, Tony has always shown to be aggressive. These cars do not have radars that keep each other from hitting each other, and wrecking each other. Tony is just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Stewart’s bashing of FOX analyst Darrell Waltrip (Three Time Cup Champion) comes as no surprise to me. Reading Waltrip’s articles on the FOX Sports website showed me that Waltrip doesn’t like “dirty racing”. But back in the ‘80s, where did Waltrip get the nickname “Jaws”? From his aggressive driving. Am I saying that Tony was doing the right thing in bashing Waltrip, Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds, and FOX? No, but everyone in this great country has the right to Freedom of Speech. Tony is one of the last people who speak their minds on TV, and I’ll admit, I admire him for it.


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The thing that I think has affected Tony over the past few races is the absence of his car owner, Joe Gibbs, who has gone back to coach the Washington Redskins in the NFL (and has missed a few races). Gibbs has the ability to calm Tony down in pressure situations. Just look at 2002, when Tony and the #20 team were trying to win a championship. But Tony was affected by a run-in with a photographer.

Tony Stewart has proved himself a championship driver, winning an IRL championship in 1997, and a championship in a totally different type of car in 2002 (NASCAR Cup Championship). In order to keep the media off of Tony’s shoulders, Joe Gibbs needs to sit down with Tony, and get to the bottom of his problem.

As for Darrell Waltrip, if you can dish it out, then take it.

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Originally posted by EatMorePossum@May 19 2004, 08:24 PM
And who the heck would want to be Kevin Harvick anyway? :huh:
Oh lord, here we go again...
 
You have to get control on the bumping, and how much of it goes on. Anyone can win bumping their way into victory lane, just ask Jeff Gordon. Racing their way side by side trading a bit of fenders are ok.
If you don't get control of the bumping you are going to end up with a demolition derby. You already have 7-8 people pissed at Tony.
Now if Harvik started to do it 'cause Tony gets away with it, there is another 7-8 pissed off drivers and then you throw a BODINE in there and.........all he11 will break loose.

I guess what i'm trying to say is just because Dale Sr got away with it doesn't mean someone needs to fill thoes shoes.
 
Let's have follow the leader racing. :) Just follow the guy in front of you hoping he will make a mistake and you can pass him........makes no difference if you are a second faster per lap than him. Don't do anything to get him out of the way because that's not nice and you really need to race cleanly........just be patient and sooner or later he will miss his mark and you can get under him. And, of course, he's gonna let you go because, after all he's the one who made the mistake. Looks like racing will finally be exciting again.............when we get to that point, huh? First we have to get rid of Tony, Kurt, Jeff, Jimmy Spencer, Todd Bodine, Jimmie Johnson, Rusty, Jamie, Ryan..........!!! Who's left? Let's see, there's Andy Belmont, Kurt Sheldomere, Derrick Cope.............oops, those are field fillers!! But the racing would be clean and exciting though.

Get real..........racing is not a gentlemanly sport.
 
I guess for some it isn't. We should change the ritual to "Punks, start your engines" while we're at it I suppose.

If you're faster you don't need to wreck somebody. You PASS them. Why is that such a foreign concept?
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@May 19 2004, 08:23 PM
If you're faster you don't need to wreck somebody. You PASS them. Why is that such a foreign concept?
The art of making a 5 ft wide car 60 ft wide.............that's the foreign concept. :D
 
There is no right answer to this argument....Dale sr. was a geat racer, yeh he had his share of "rough rides", but there is no denying he was great. Tony might be going a little over the line right now....but you have to admit ...it is generating plenty of excitement and controversy. Just what NASCAR wants!! Like i said in a previous post yesterday....it is somewhat contrived, i don't believe all of this crap is legit. Not to say that Tony hasn't pissed off a few fellow racers. I just think it is getting more air play than it deserves, so to speak. ;) ;)
 
Originally posted by Mopardh9@May 20 2004, 08:19 AM
There is no right answer to this argument....Dale sr. was a geat racer, yeh he had his share of "rough rides", but there is no denying he was great. Tony might be going a little over the line right now....but you have to admit ...it is generating plenty of excitement and controversy. Just what NASCAR wants!! Like i said in a previous post yesterday....it is somewhat contrived, i don't believe all of this crap is legit. Not to say that Tony hasn't pissed off a few fellow racers. I just think it is getting more air play than it deserves, so to speak. ;) ;)
Agreed. Can the media not hype anything.
 
There is ALWAYS someone who drives too agressively and gets labeled as the 'bad guy'. That's what makes it a sport. You have to have someone to root FOR and someone to root AGAINST!

As much as I'd like to say I always take the 'high road'...I admit a part of me smiles on the inside when the Raiders lose at football, the Redwings lose in hockey, and the Yanks lose in baseball.

Some people actually start rooting for the 'bad guys' simply because they get more coverage...and people like rooting for the anti-hero...it's happening on this board!

In the media world and sports world, there is no such thing as 'bad coverage'....

Tony's getting more coverage than any driver at this point. That's not a bad thing at all. Not bad for him, or the sport. That's just how things are and always will be.
 
Bumping... if there was not bumping or rough driving we wouldn't have seen the best finish in years last year between Craven and Busch..... "Have you ever?" "No I haven't"

That was good race'n darn it!!! :owquitit:
 
Originally posted by Splunge@May 20 2004, 12:57 PM
In the media world and sports world, there is no such thing as 'bad coverage'....

Tony's getting more coverage than any driver at this point. That's not a bad thing at all. Not bad for him, or the sport. That's just how things are and always will be.
You know, that's very true. It's one of the oldest PR tricks in the books. Ozzy Osbourne used to employ that all the time...when record sales fell off, he'd get himself arrested for some minor but outrageous infraction like urinating in public or something, thus assuring himself of tons of blurbs in newspapers and local TV telecasts. Shazam, the album just sold another 25,000 copies.

Maybe he's trying to steal some of Junior's thunder.







Nah, he's just a jerk. :lol:
 
Originally posted by de7xwcc@May 21 2004, 09:32 AM
i like tony, i like aggressive drivers, i don't like DW, and i don't like fox, and i sure miss that black 3
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I agree that it's got somewhat blown out of proportion, but who gets to drive agressively and who doesn't?

All 43 can't do it 'cause watching caution laps is just not fun.

I suppose if the "big dogs" take each other out it gives some hope to the field fillers.

Stewarts comments about DW last week were some of the funniest I've heard in Nascar for a long time. He operates that mic pretty much the way he did a car - acting without thinking.
 
Stewart tells it like it is, he keeps it real. That is one of the reasons he is my favorite driver.
Those comments about DW were the truth, only Tony would have the b***s to sya them.
 
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