Tesla Fail...

Well, it finally happened. I remember posting a thread before about two self-driving cars that almost crashed into each other (I think one cut the other off).

I feel sorry for the person that died. That's a shame.
 
Mr. Gregory said:
Well, it finally happened. I remember posting a thread before about two self-driving cars that almost crashed into each other (I think one cut the other off).

I feel sorry for the person that died. That's a shame.
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This technology is not quite ready for the public and obviously, vice-versa.
 
First, let me say that I feel bad for the guy who died and his family and friends and any employees he had who may be affected by his demise. I also have to say that I'm glad no one else died who did not choose to be part of this experiment.

Also, I have to say that this whole thing makes me uncomfortable as hell. There is almost no way to predict how another human being is going to react on the highway, and that concerns me enough, but the thought of any number of computer issues from hardware to software glitches of any kind causing a 3000 pound vehicle to do something completely random is just downright scary. I get why some people want this to be ready and they want to be on the cutting edge of technology and all that. This guy looked pretty pleased with himself in that picture and I get it. However, if the technology isn't ready, you sure as hell can't rush it. I'm not sure if I'll ever feel comfortable with it, but I'm sure it will probably be the norm eventually if we are here long enough to see it.
 
Benevolent One said:
First, let me say that I feel bad for the guy who died and his family and friends and any employees he had who may be affected by his demise. I also have to say that I'm glad no one else died who did not choose to be part of this experiment.

Also, I have to say that this whole thing makes me uncomfortable as hell. There is almost no way to predict how another human being is going to react on the highway, and that concerns me enough, but the thought of any number of computer issues from hardware to software glitches of any kind causing a 3000 pound vehicle to do something completely random is just downright scary. I get why some people want this to be ready and they want to be on the cutting edge of technology and all that. This guy looked pretty pleased with himself in that picture and I get it. However, if the technology isn't ready, you sure as hell can't rush it. I'm not sure if I'll ever feel comfortable with it, but I'm sure it will probably be the norm eventually if we are here long enough to see it.
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'I also have to say that I'm glad no one else died who did not choose to be part of this experiment.'

Well said and what an excellent point! Apparently we are all being unknowingly subjected to this experimentation. I don't recall signing the release on that.
 
My youngest son can't wait for the self driving cars to come. Me I am just glad that I'll probably never have to worry about it. To me they have a lot to take into account and then prove out. They can instructions that say that the system still needs to have a person with their hands on the wheel, but you can't hardly do that now with the stupid phones. People will end up just being upset that they have useless steering wheel in the way of them using their computer or phone.
 
It's just a matter of time before a computer can lap a track faster than any driver. Actually, that would be an interesting way to work out a lot of the bugs on this stuff... Have some small series that races autonomous cars.
 
shark77 said:
It's just a matter of time before a computer can lap a track faster than any driver. Actually, that would be an interesting way to work out a lot of the bugs on this stuff... Have some small series that races autonomous cars.
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Don't let Brian get a hold of it, he'd figure a way to screw it up :eek:
 
shark77 said:
It's just a matter of time before a computer can lap a track faster than any driver. Actually, that would be an interesting way to work out a lot of the bugs on this stuff... Have some small series that races autonomous cars.
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The concept is already laid out. It just a matter of how to implement it.



Tesla and this guy should have obviously conducted the test run on a airdrome or a vast empty space like an abandoned airport facility or something before taking it out for a spin in the real world.
 
shark77 said:
It's just a matter of time before a computer can lap a track faster than any driver. Actually, that would be an interesting way to work out a lot of the bugs on this stuff... Have some small series that races autonomous cars.
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You might be on to something. If they want to see how well they react to human drivers and errors, just put them on a racetrack with Danica and JWT. If the autonomous car can make 500 laps without crashing in that 3 car race, I'd say they have it perfected.
 
The technology is getting better. Eventually it will be a liability to drive a car in a world where self driving cars are the norm.
 
DSquad48 said:
The technology is getting better. Eventually it will be a liability to drive a car in a world where self driving cars are the norm.
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I'm sure that eventually driverless cars will ease rush hour congestion greatly. You know when you are sitting at a light that turns green and you don't even move until the light is half way through it's cycle. All the cars could move in unison as soon as the light turns green. At least that's what I'm hoping!
 
Reck said:
The concept is already laid out. It just a matter of how to implement it.



Tesla and this guy should have obviously conducted the test run on a airdrome or a vast empty space like an abandoned airport facility or something before taking it out for a spin in the real world.
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Thanks for posting this Reck, :) God I miss that sound!
 
Clutch said:
I'm sure that eventually driverless cars will ease rush hour congestion greatly. You know when you are sitting at a light that turns green and you don't even move until the light is half way through it's cycle. All the cars could move in unison as soon as the light turns green. At least that's what I'm hoping!
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Just hook them all together like a roller coaster
 
I keep coming back to the same moral issue ... the computer brain is faced with a situation of running down a child, or evading straight into a bus stop, or taking itself and it's driver into oncoming traffic .... which does it do, and how does the driver live with the consequences .. presuming the car decides on an option that leave him alive.
 
In the end, the computer is no better than its sensors and its programmer...
 
Professur said:
I keep coming back to the same moral issue ... the computer brain is faced with a situation of running down a child, or evading straight into a bus stop, or taking itself and it's driver into oncoming traffic .... which does it do, and how does the driver live with the consequences .. presuming the car decides on an option that leave him alive.
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Studies have shown that people are down with utilitarian cars until they're faced with having to buy one themselves. It's easy for me to say "sure, kill the occupant to save the 20 pedestrians" as long as the occupant isn't me!
 
I was out with a friend in his brand spanking new Fiat Jeep Grand Cherokee. $70k Cdn. Bells and whistles in buckets. Only thing he didn't have were the front obstacle avoidance sensors. He'd wanted to keep the price down just a hair. Company car after all. Good thing he did. Doing a very very little off-roading (fielding?) through some long grass get to a cabin ... he discovered that he couldn't back up. The rear obstacle avoidance sensors which he did have kept detecting an obstacle and locking the brakes. The obstacle? Long grass. Yup .... try after try, brakes locked. Finally had to clear a bunch with a branch to allow him enough room to turn around and drive our forwards. Every time I even looked like a smile might cross my face .. "Shaddap Prof". $70,000 off road capable, full AWD setup ... stopped cold by long grass. Speaks volumes all by itself.
 
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