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No body want to comment on the race? Well, I will. First off, did anyone hear me when the race ended? I kept thinking that if there is a caution near the end, Kasey would not end up winning. Man, was he pulling away there at the end. Almost five seconds ahead of Matt there at the end. Good time to get the car perfect.

I have to say that Jimmie and his team are doing everything right, even when they have it all wrong. If he continues with this type of progress, he's going to be hard to move out of the points lead. I was hootin' and hollerin' when he got down two laps, but I guess they ended up getting their car almost perfect there at the end and just barely finished out of the top ten.

So I wonder now how many friends Kurt has. I'm not sitting here saying that he was wrong, but he sure was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'll leave the blame in the hands of Biffy.

Gotta feel sorry for Carl though. After such a tremendous year last year, this one is not going very good. Kinda like what Kasey had in his sophomore year. Just can't catch a break.

When will there be a repeat winner? I hope that what happened today to past winners doesn't happen in the next race. That wouldn't be good for Kasey.
 
I really enjoyed the race, and also enjoyed cussin at Kurt! I NEVER thought I'd be cussin the 2 car, but without Rusty I guess I can do it now.
 
Well I'm not sure who was at fault with that wreck, but Kurt was down laps he could've burped the throttle just a little and avoided all of it. Now that's JMHO and I don't know for sure or really care. What does irritate me about Kurt is his "Holier than Thou" attitude and that everyone and everything is below him and what a giant favor he does everyone just taking the time to speak to the masses through the media.

This picture would be much better if it was Kurt they used,
pee_wee_buschs_big_adventure.jpg
 
Eagle1 said:
Well I'm not sure who was at fault with that wreck, but Kurt was down laps he could've burped the throttle just a little and avoided all of it. Now that's JMHO and I don't know for sure or really care. What does irritate me about Kurt is his "Holier than Thou" attitude and that everyone and everything is below him and what a giant favor he does everyone just taking the time to speak to the masses through the media.

This picture would be much better if it was Kurt they used,
pee_wee_buschs_big_adventure.jpg

Hilarious Eagle! Can you "Photoshop" it? :D
 
A Typical Kurt Busch action and reaction. "He must've dropped a cylinder", yeah, right.

I've got to wonder what in heck is the point of someone going over to a guys pit box.


A good run for Kahne and smart driving to stay out of trouble when his car wasn't good enough to contend.
 
It's not really like me to defend Kurt, and I feel terrible for Greg, but what really happened is that Biffle drifted up right in front of the 2. Bush did not run into him. Maybe he could have stepped on the brake, and then maybe someone could have run into him and the crowd would have cheered. Like someone already said, he was in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

Now if someone like Green would have pulled in front of someone like Earmhardt under the same circumstances, guess who would have been the bad guy? ;)
 
I disagree with you. Bush ran right into his ass. Bush was being a jerk, which is why I like him, and could have let up a hair and then both would'nt be screwed out of points because they had busted up cars.
 
bumpzter said:
Now if someone like Green would have pulled in front of someone like Earmhardt under the same circumstances, guess who would have been the bad guy? ;)

See, that's where you wrong. Earnhardt HAS been in situations similar to this. Instead of blaming someone or something else, he took full responsability and apologized. (Wrecking Vickers last year.)
Even last week at Martinsville when he and Newman got together, he admiited that he probably shouldn't have tried to put his nose under him in the middle of the corner.

Busch will NEVER do this. That is why so many people can't warm up to him.

BTW, Earnhardt was not a lap down and did not wreck Green.
 
Eagle1 said:
Well I'm not sure who was at fault with that wreck, but Kurt was down laps he could've burped the throttle just a little and avoided all of it. Now that's JMHO and I don't know for sure or really care. What does irritate me about Kurt is his "Holier than Thou" attitude and that everyone and everything is below him and what a giant favor he does everyone just taking the time to speak to the masses through the media.

Busch sure does have an attitude but from here, and after numerous replays, it sure looked like it was intentional. But if it was, why ????? THere did not seem to be previous contact or problems and unless memory fails for specifics, what could be any other reason ??? Personal ??? Still vengeful after leaving Roush and later comments ? Mine not to reason why.......and all that rot.

In this sport and at the speeds traveled, Busch certainly should have lifted enough to let Biffle in. There was ample time, the conditions were right, there were no other obstacles, Busch was a lap down and Biffle was setting up for the corner, a move made by nearly every car during the course of the event.

Who knows, but one thing for sure, Kurt Busch is one of the best driving and this "mistake" wrecking Biffle was pretty obvious. For a driver with the talent Busch has displayed previouskly, it is hard to conceive it was anything other than a deliberate move by Busch. And to think there was almost a cat fight as a result. Who ever woulda thought !!!!!!!

Eagle1, Kurt Busch is an arrogant s.o.b.
 
Whizzer said:
Busch sure does have an attitude but from here, and after numerous replays, it sure looked like it was intentional. But if it was, why ????? THere did not seem to be previous contact or problems and unless memory fails for specifics, what could be any other reason ??? Personal ??? Still vengeful after leaving Roush and later comments ? Mine not to reason why.......and all that rot.

In this sport and at the speeds traveled, Busch certainly should have lifted enough to let Biffle in. There was ample time, the conditions were right, there were no other obstacles, Busch was a lap down and Biffle was setting up for the corner, a move made by nearly every car during the course of the event.

Who knows, but one thing for sure, Kurt Busch is one of the best driving and this "mistake" wrecking Biffle was pretty obvious. For a driver with the talent Busch has displayed previouskly, it is hard to conceive it was anything other than a deliberate move by Busch. And to think there was almost a cat fight as a result. Who ever woulda thought !!!!!!!

Eagle1, Kurt Busch is an arrogant s.o.b.
Which they showed on Rick and Bubba this am on Turner South. :)
 
I agree with most things said about Kurt. However, he did not initiate this. There was nothing intentional about this incident. He was minding his own business. He was running his line at the top. Biffle was at the bottom. With a much faster car. All of a sudden he drifted to the very top. Directly in front of Busch. Much slower than Bush.

Sure Kurt could have slowed (if he had enough time), but at the same time Greg could have held his own line. I say it was a one those 'racing incidents'. And I don't care if anybody agrees or not.

The comment I made earlier about a hypothetical Green vs Earnhardt incident was in no way suggesting that one or the other would have or not would have taken the blame. I was referring to fan reaction whose fault it would be.
 
Once again KB shows he is a bad guy, just what Nascar wants, he is the "villian" in a sport where we need some one to hate. Seems in another era we had a couple of guys named Waltrip and Earnhardt that took up this role and filled it quite nicely. Yeh maybe he should of lifted, but why should he? After all he is "The Almighty Kurt Busch" former Cup Champion, he has the Nascar right to do what he feels is prudent in a given situation. He is playing a role that Nascar deperately needs, this won't change unless some one gets hurt to the point where they can't drive. I thought the almost "cat fight" was great, another drama incident that Nascar can only play up. I for one was at my local track watching some great Modified action, my guy Kasey won the race, but you know what i'll take the local track scene over some of the crap going on in Nascar right now ...ANYDAY!!!!
 
bumpzter said:
Biffle was at the bottom. With a much faster car. All of a sudden he drifted to the very top. Directly in front of Busch. Much slower than Bush. Sure Kurt could have slowed (if he had enough time), but at the same time Greg could have held his own line. And I don't care if anybody agrees or not.

What is the point ??? Was Biffle was going faster than Busch and slowed dramatically after drifting to the top ?????????????????

The replay most likely will be on the numerous, endless, tireless, brain numbing NASCAR weekly shows with all the intricate details explained and re-examined, autopsied and disected, over and over and over and over and over and over, ad nauseum.
Intentional ???
Good question !!! After watching the replay several times, it certainly appeared Busch had time to back off enough to avoid Biffle resulting in the following mind altering experience and drawing this conclusion. If Busch's reaction time or judgement are as slow as the replay indicates, expect Kurt to be involved in one helluva lot more "racing incidents" the balance of the season.
 
Whizzer said:
What is the point ??? Was Biffle was going faster than Busch and slowed dramatically after drifting to the top ?????????????????

YES. Thats usually what happens so you don't get any higher and closer to the wall. I think Biff lifted.
 
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