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Fireball Roberts
Ned Jarrett
Tim Flock
Joe Weatherly
Buck Baker
Red Byron
Herb Thomas
Bill France, Sr.
Curtis Turner
Raymond Parks
Bill France, Jr.
Richard Petty
David Pearson
Cale Yarbrough
Lee Petty
Richie Evans(modified driver)
Bobby Allison
Benny Parsons
Junior Johnson
Glen Wood
Bud Moore
Darrell Waltrip
Dale Earnhardt
Richard Childress
Rick Hendrick

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I'm surprised that Smoky Yunick wasn't in the group.
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
I don't see Tim Richmond's name in there either.
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If ever, it will be many years from now. Tim left a bad taste in the mouths of the powers to be and I'm sure they don't want to see his name surface any time in the future.

Just my opinion, but I don't think that anyone that is still connected to the sport will be enshrined with the exception of Richard Petty and he might not make the first batch. But I also don't think that Dale Earnhardt will make it until the King does. That leaves out Hendrick, Childress, DW and Wood (even though his connection isn't full time).
 
buckaroo said:
If ever, it will be many years from now. Tim left a bad taste in the mouths of the powers to be and I'm sure they don't want to see his name surface any time in the future.
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Great talent leaves a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. Look at how everyone boos at the 18 car. :beerbang:
 
Big Bill should indeed be inductee #1 since without him there'd be no NASCAR. I'm afraid it'll take a lot of the old timers like Joe Weatherly, Herb Thomas, and Raymond Parks a long time to be honored since they're virtually unknown to modern NASCAR fans. One name I'd like to see is Carl Kiekhaefer. He brought big-time sponsorship to NASCAR with his dominating Mercury Outboard teams, and was also one of the first to put his team members in matching uniforms, bringing a professional demeanor unseen brfore.
 
I was actually surprised to see Richie Evans on the list. I grew up watching him here in New England, man that guy could drive a Modified. When there was a big paying event at Stafford, Riverside, Thompson, or any of the other local tracks of that era you could bet that Evans would be running and probably winning it. As far as Richmond being on the list, I really don't think he belongs there, surprised he was considered. Although he was a very talented driver he did not get the substantial time in,... not enough wins, IMO to be considered for the HOF.
 
There are going to be many sentimental favorites like Davey Allison and Alan Kulwicki that just didn't have the numbers.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
Tim was a good driver, but I don't consider him as Hall of Famer. He was flashy, and he was good --- but, great? --- no.
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So was Davey Allison. Well, not so much the flashy part, but he was good. Maybe not great, but neither man had long enough careers to prove themselves.

Both were good enough that they could have won 50+ races in their careers, had their lives not been cut short. He also gave Earnhardt a run for his money in the 86 championship.

Richmond would have been very good for the sport. Not just as a driver, but an icon. NASCAR, more then anything else, is about defiance and rebelion. Richmond fit that role perfectly. He was the anti-Earnhardt long before Gordon was around.

They'll both be Hall-of-Famers eventually.

I'm pleased with the list though. I wish Smoky Yunick and Wendell Scott were on the list, but everyone here is worthy to be one of the first 5 inducted. It's going to be a real tough vote.
 
A lock:

Bill France, sr
Richard Petty
Dale Earnhardt, sr
David Pearson

Up for grabs for the 5th spot:

Bobby Allison - likely
Junior Johnson - also good chance
Darrell Waltrip - slight chance
Cale Yarborough - slight chance
Bill France, jr - probably not but possible

Put your money on it. :D
 
You're probably right about those four muggle. I just wonder if they will also put in one of the really old drivers? Like one of these guys...
The very first NASCAR race took place on a dirt track at the old Charlotte Speedway in North Carolina on June 19, 1949 in front of a crowd of approximately 23,000 curious spectators. Christian "Jim" Roper took first place (and the $2,000 purse) in a Lincoln Cosmopolitan after reading about the race in a syndicated comic strip. Fonty Flock came in second, future Hall of Famer Red Byron took third, Sam Rice came in fourth, and Tim Flock took fifth. Several other legendary racers competed that first day including Lee Petty, Curtis Turner, and Buck Baker.
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So maybe a good choice might be Roper just because.
 
Lee Petty may be an outside shot next year. Although Curtis Turner should be a strong candidate next year, I think it will be 3 or 4 years before he gets in due to his unpopularity with the nascar brass.

Herb Thomas and Red Bryon will probably be strong candidates in year 3 or 4.
It is tough with so many good drivers and only 5 inducted each year, but, that is how it should be or first thing you know they will be inducting drivers like Kenseth or Edwards. Now don't jump down my throat, they are good drivers but not HOF material, at least not at this stage.
 
buckaroo said:
Maybe they should make at least one of the nominees an "old timer" like they do in other HOF.
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In that same vein, buck, I'd like to see a section for track owners/builders and crew chiefs who made outstanding contributions to the sport.

Like Clay Earles, Smokey Yunick, Harry Hyde, et al.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
In that same vein, buck, I'd like to see a section for track owners/builders and crew chiefs who made outstanding contributions to the sport.

Like Clay Earles, Smokey Yunick, Harry Hyde, et al.
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Smokey should be inducted in to the "creative" section of the HoF.:D
 
Overall, the list is pretty good, but................ I just have a problem with Hendrick and Childress being in the list..... I mean come on, we know they will be there, but why now?? Are ya goin to write their stats in pencil so ya can change it each week?? I think in order to qualify, ya should be retired...... I don't have a problem with either being in there, eventually, just think it short hands some that should be there before them.
also, I agree there should be seperate ballots for people that have influenced or played a major part in NASCAR history...... names have been mentioned on here already, and in addition, people like Harold Kinder, T Taylor Warren, T. Wayne Robertson, Bruton Smith, Harold Brasington, i mean there are tons of supporting people.
Was also surprised that some names didn't make the list like Smokey, Holman-Moody, Cotton Owens, Fred Lorenzen,Wendell Scott..... there are many more...... just kinda wish NASCAR would honor some of their pioneers especially the ones that are still around.........
And on the Ritchie Evans note...... yea, he has a long and distinguished list, but.... if ya gonna pay tribute to guys on the lower level, where is Sam Ard's name? Tiny Lund?? Jack Ingram??
 
If the drivers have to be retired the owners should have to be retired too.
 
tkj24 said:
If the drivers have to be retired the owners should have to be retired too.
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agreed but how would that effect richard petty's induction? no way he will be left out of the first class. does he have any ownership stake in rpm?
 
The first 5 to go in should be:

Bill France Jr. (founded NASCAR)
Richard Petty (200 wins, 7-time champion)
Dale Earnhardt (7-time champion)
Junior Johnson (many wins are driver and car owner)
David Pearson (105 wins)

Then in 2010, I'd go with:

Lee Petty (first back-to-back champion)
Bill France Jr. (led NASCAR into moder era with Winston sponsorship)
Cale Yarborough (first 3-time champion)
Ned Jarrett (many wins as driver, great broadcaster)
Curtis Turner or Red Byron (tough choice between the two)

I think Rick Hendrick and Richard Childress should be retired from ownership before being considered since they are obviously going in as car owners.
 
MRM said:
The first 5 to go in should be:

Bill France Jr. (founded NASCAR)
Richard Petty (200 wins, 7-time champion)
Dale Earnhardt (7-time champion)
Junior Johnson (many wins are driver and car owner)
David Pearson (105 wins)

Then in 2010, I'd go with:

Lee Petty (first back-to-back champion)
Bill France Jr. (led NASCAR into moder era with Winston sponsorship)
Cale Yarborough (first 3-time champion)
Ned Jarrett (many wins as driver, great broadcaster)
Curtis Turner or Red Byron (tough choice between the two)
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We are pretty close, but there are many more that have the same picks.
muggle not said:
A lock:

Bill France, sr
Richard Petty
Dale Earnhardt, sr
David Pearson

Up for grabs for the 5th spot:

Bobby Allison - likely
Junior Johnson - also good chance
Darrell Waltrip - slight chance
Cale Yarborough - slight chance
Bill France, jr - probably not but possible

Put your money on it. :D
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