The 'Sprint' Cup?

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The Sprint Cup? UPDATE: Looks like the NEXTEL Cup Series will be no more in 2007. Get ready for the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, as the Sprint-NEXTEL merger gets finalized and the company's new name becomes attached to the NASCAR deal.(RacingOne)(6-13-2005)
UPDATE: Sprint and Nextel Communications announced details surrounding the brand strategy and logo to be used upon completion of the companies' merger, expected in the third quarter of 2005, pending shareholder and regulatory approvals. The new go-to-market brand name of the combined Sprint Nextel will be Sprint, with the Nextel name continuing as a key product brand. Given its broad market awareness and its history of innovation, the Sprint name was chosen as the lead go-to-market brand name for the new company.
Blending elements of Sprint's signature "pin drop" – representing clarity – and Nextel's bold yellow and black colors – which command attention – the new logo is a powerful symbol for the new Sprint as a forward-moving, energetic and dynamic brand. Additionally, in advertising, the new Sprint visual treatment will include the line, "Together with Nextel," as a reminder of the equity of these two strong brands coming together as one.
The new company will be committed to its partnership with NASCAR and its more than 75 million fans. The NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series will maintain its current series branding through 2006, and decisions regarding the series name and branding beyond that season are expected to be made prior to the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series season opener in 2006. Sprint Nextel Corporation will serve as the corporate name of the combined company once the merger is approved.(Sprint)(6-23-2005)

Okay- let's just get Winston back, at least then we know the name will be the same for a few years.

- K y l e
 
shadowflames said:
good idea. nextel wasn't fit for nascar anyways
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I thought Nextel was a perfect. I would guess many more race fans has Nextel than Sprint.
 
I think it'll be funny to see how long it takes the drivers after a race in Victory lane to get the name right. :)

Remember everyone having to stop and think for second; "..we had a really great car. It's a testament to all these Winst-...er...Nextel Cup fans behind us..."

"..we had a really great car. It's a testament to all these Next-...er...Sprint Cup fans behind us..."
:)

- K y l e
 
Found this on another forum-

The 2007 Cup car for Home Depot.

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I about fell out of my chair. Hilarious.

- K y l e
 
^ lol, well "sprint" is an easier word to remember and to say right off the bat
 
Nascar doesn't care which phone the fans use. They just want to get paid by whoever offers the most money. When it was Winston, they didn't care who smoked Mallboros. :D
 
I honestly can't figure out some of you folks thinking at all.

RJR/Winston begged out of a 10 year contract because they were not able to meet the financial requirements which they had agreed to, NEXTEL came along and picked up the sponsorship of NASCAR's top series and some fans want Winston back?

It would seem that many of those fans feel NASCAR was to blame for Winston leaving as the title sponsor.

What difference does the name make as long as there is a company with the willingness and financial means to keep the series a viable form of entertainment?

There is no way that these sponsor and name changes have any effect whatsoever on any of the folks who are sitting in the grandstands, watching the circus on television, or complaining loudly about the way things are on internet web forums, so why not just be happy that there are companies still willing to spend the huge amount of money necessary to bring that circus to you every week throughout season?

Just my rant for the day.
Have a good one!
 
I was joking, man.

As long as the rules remain remotely the same, I'll be watching.

- K y l e
 
One thing for sure, Winston (RJR) never set any of the rules, though they did at one time have a lot to say about them. However, RJR, as it was at the time they sponsored the series, isn't the same now and is now part of Reynolds American. Yeah, they still make Winston cigarettes, and yes, Winston could sponsor a car or a sport, but with the social outcasting of smokers, even the folks at RJR, now Reynolds American, knew that to continue in the same vien was futile. Some of the very same people who screamed the loudest about losing Winston as the main sponsor of NASCAR also screamed the loudest about smokers in their vicinity. Go figure. Anyway, as boB said, what difference does it make as long as the sport is what it is and continues to be?

My take on this whole thing is that it wouldn't make a bit of difference who is sponsoring the sport, the same old people complaining would still be complaining. BTW, the complaining of this sort started many years ago, well before RJR even thought about begging out of the sport.
 
And as far as I'm concerned there's no damn Cup involved in it. Was, is, and always will be either showroom stock or Grand National to me!

As long as it's racing instead of a programed show...
 
boB said:
....... why not just be happy that there are companies still willing to spend the huge amount of money necessary to bring that circus to you every week through the season.
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You must be watching the cartoon network. Nascar is on Fox this half of the season :eek:
 
Naw ABG.
I'm not watching the Cartoon Network, nor will I waste my time watching the crap which FOX and NBC are trying to pass off on the fans as coverage of racing.

As you're a newcomer to our forum, I'll forgive your remarks, but I will say that I have most certainly forgotten more about NASCAR and automobile racing over the last 50 or so years than you can ever hope to learn with your apparent attitude.

You see, my friend, while you are watching the show on television or sitting in some grandstand with your wannabee buddies, I have been working in the garages, the pits, behind the wheel, and most recently, the media centers, at more racetracks than you have probably ever imagined, and if you think racing at the top levels (or any other pro sport for that matter) is other than an entertainment business whose sole purpose is to enrich those folks who are actually involved in bringing that show to you, you are indeed rather naive.

Bring on the clowns
There have to be clowns

Automobile racing is the only sport I know of where the folks who make up the show have to pay more to get in the gate than those who come to watch it.

Thank you for your interest and attention; have a nice day!
 
boB said:
Naw ABG.
I'm not watching the Cartoon Network, nor will I waste my time watching the crap which FOX and NBC are trying to pass off on the fans as coverage of racing.

As you're a newcomer to our forum, I'll forgive your remarks, but I will say that I have most certainly forgotten more about NASCAR and automobile racing over the last 50 or so years than you can ever hope to learn with your apparent attitude.

You see, my friend, while you are watching the show on television or sitting in some grandstand with your wannabee buddies, I have been working in the garages, the pits, behind the wheel, and most recently, the media centers, at more racetracks than you have probably ever imagined, and if you think racing at the top levels (or any other pro sport for that matter) is other than an entertainment business whose sole purpose is to enrich those folks who are actually involved in bringing that show to you, you are indeed rather naive.

Bring on the clowns
There have to be clowns

Automobile racing is the only sport I know of where the folks who make up the show have to pay more to get in the gate than those who come to watch it.

Thank you for your interest and attention; have a nice day!
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I'm thinking ABG was joking, or at least I took it that way. Why talk down to him like that? You could have made your point just as clear without the condesending tone. So, you been around awhile, awesome- you'll be gone sometime too, and wouldn't you be happier knowing there's still fans watching a pastime you invested so much of your life in? For that to happen there's gonna be newbies like ABG (he may be a longtime fan, who knows, but you assume just because he hasn't been posting here he's gotta be a n00b, so for the sake of arguement we'll go with it) and me.

And yeah- a lot of companies do spend a lot of cash; but it's a business and just as soon as NASCAR, Nextel, Lowe's, Budweiser, and all the rest start seeing it as costing them money- NASCAR will once again be a southeastern sunday afternoon pastime. However, that day is long off, or not coming at all. There's money, and tons of it around NASCAR, and they'll be raking it in today and tomorrow, and next week. :)

By the way- we do agree on one thing, NBC's coverage of NASCAR is terrible. I loathe the second half.

- K y l e
 
Damn!

Another new forum member trying to tell me what and how I should post here.

And someone asked recently why so many of the old timers weren't coming around anymore.

Kids!!!
Doncha just love 'em?

Yeah Kyle, I may sound condesending to you, but I think I've earned the right to sound that way. If you've got some sort of problem with it, my friend, YOU do have a problem.

NBC's coverage beats FOX by miles and that's giving them way to much credit.

And you have a nice day too!
 
boB said:
Yeah Kyle, I may sound condesending to you, but I think I've earned the right to sound that way. If you've got some sort of problem with it, my friend, YOU do have a problem.
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That's the difference though, this is an internet forum, not some job where they're gonna hand you a pension and a gold watch when you ride off to the Florida sunshine to expire. You haven't earned anything on here, and I don't care what you're resume` says. I do have a quite a problem, a problem with people acting like they're owed something and talking down to people for no other reason than to make themselves feel better at the end of the day. This is an exchange of ideas for a debate, or whatever you want to make of it. For you it's a measuring stick so you can talk down to people who you assume aren't as experienced as you.

I'll leave it at that, because I've found speaking your mind to a certain clique around here isn't welcome. You know where I stand. I have a problem, you're right. Feel free to respond, as I won't be replying because it'll surely be seen as me starting trouble again. However, rest assured, I'll continue speaking my mind as often as needed.

As far as the 'kids' comment. I'm 30 years old with three of my own, I own a home, and am very successful in my career, Gramps. Save your condesending age discrimination **** for the girl at McDonald's that serves you your free Senior coffee every morning.

boB said:
And you have a nice day too!
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You as well.

- K y l e
 
My goodness, are we just a bit touchy today or what?

Just FYI, there is no gold watch, no pension and no retirement in Florida.
Just my social security, some rental property, an article or some photos now and then, hot and humid here in New England this time of year and lots of snow and ice in the winter.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

Oh yeah, a couple of kids older than you are and one granddaughter close to your age, but I must say, I am impressed with you and all the accomplishments at such a young age.

As far as posting on this forum, why not hang around and respond? Or is it a case of, if you can't stand the heat, well, I guess you know the rest of that saying.
I gather from your last response that you've had problems with other people and ideas you've posted on internet forums before?

But you call me condesending?
I thought my response was directed at someone else and I'm not quite sure I understand your line of reasoning, nor the reason you felt the need to get involved, but then again, there's lots of things in this world I don't understand...

Oh well, such is life!

Just a couple of other notes for you.

I honestly could care less what happens after I'm gone. I don't plan on being around to pay all that much attention.

Second thing is that I haven't been to Mickey D's for anything in years. I prefer real food and drink, not the garbage the fast food outlets pass on to you kids.
 
Kyle48 said:
......Gramps. Save your condesending age discrimination **** for the girl at McDonald's that serves you your free Senior coffee every morning.
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LOL I just thought this was funny. You say to stop the age discrimination "stuff", then you call boB old. ummmmmmmmmmk
 
Bob, If its a circus What the hell are you still doing around. When ever you post all you do is criticize everyone else. I'm not new here I have been here 2 years.
 
You have been here two years and made two post. Wow by this time next century you may be a Senior Member. :D
 
ABG,

It most certainly is a circus, always has been and lots of the oldtimers refer to it as such. It's just another way of saying that the whole thing is nothing more nor less than another form of entertainment with the intent of getting the folks who come to watch to part with their money.

And if it's a circus, what am I still doing hanging around?
Maybe I just enjoy being one of the clowns?

Looks as if other folks noticed the join date in your profile as well; or are you one of those forum members who feel the need to change user names on a semi-regualar basis in order to continually confuse the rest of us?

HEY!! It's raceday, and a roadcourse as well. Some racing instead of chasing each other around in circles for three hours or so. Driver has to use his head and some skill instead of the right foot if he's gonna get a win today.

Not only that, the sun is shining, the birds are singing, I was able to put both feet on the floor this morning and lift the tired old body off the bed and we had a first birthday party for my youngest grandson yesterday afternoon.

So you see kiddies, there really are other things more important in life than watching a bunch of overgrown juvenile deliquents chase each other around in circles in overpowered, so-called stockcars.

OOOPS, I guess that could be construed as condescending too...

But you wanna know what?

I really don't give a damn!

Have a nice day and God bless.
 
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Can't we all just get along?
n00bies and seasoned veterans and those somewhere in between all have a place on the board. Some just need to be less confrontational. boB has a lot to share. All of us have a lot to learn...

Oh, and I absolutely hate that images only show up as a link now...
 
Smoke1TS20 said:
LOL I just thought this was funny. You say to stop the age discrimination "stuff", then you call boB old. ummmmmmmmmmk
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Only because it was tossed at me to begin with, Smoke. :)

- k y l e
 
The last word

A veteran sergeant was lecturing his squad of rookie GI's and he finished his impromptu orientation talk by saying, "Remember men, no matter how dirty or distasteful the job you're ordered to do is, how much of a bawling out you get, as American citizens you always have the right to have the last word."

He paused for a moment to let this unbelievable morsel of information sink in. Then he added, "That last word is ‘Yes Sir!'"
 
I don't have a problem with NASCAR's Cup series being called the "Sprint Cup". But, then again, I don't have a problem with it being called the "Nextel Cup" either!! :) Actually I when I first started watching NASCAR it was Grand National (or something like that.......it was a long time ago, ya know!! :) ) and I don't remember having a problem with it being called the "Winston Cup"! I suppose many of the old timers back then squawked like they recently did with Nextel and are beginning to about Sprint........but, most got over it. It's only a name change in honor of some company forking over a huge sum of money to gain the rights to promote a product or service to the fan base. NASCAR is still owned and operated by the same family as it was day one back in ancient history........it's the same series as it always was. I keep hearing all the crap about how the series has changed with the sponsors......and it's nothing but crap. Not one change has occurred since it's inception that the France's have not endorsed......it's still the France's NASCAR (not RJR, Nextel, or Sprint).

As for NASCAR being a circus. You could describe it that way.......it is, after all, a show for us spectators (fans) to watch and enjoy. And it does have all the thrills, chills and spectacle of any Ringling Bros, Barnum and Bailey show. It's entertainment for us fans........a sport (and livelihood)for the participants. But, it does differ a little.......circuses are not really competition where racing is. But the similarity is there. But I got a "guess what" for you..........it's always been that way!! :) Even back at Daytona Beach on the sand. Bill France started this circus and improved on the show to make it what it is today...........a huge money making spectacle. Since most of us seem to enjoy this show, I would say it's good.....it's all good! :D I haven't been watching this show for 50 years, nor have I been a participant (other than a fan) as, at least, one of our members has but I've been a follower for quite some time.....I've seen the changes in the past 25 years. Some where very good, some where very bad (that's not an objective statement) but, overall, they all have been successes in one way or another. Had they not been the game of NASCAR racing would long ago have failed and none of us would be waiting for the first road course race of the season right now.

For some reason emotions run pretty high for some of us fans (yeah, I'm guilty too :) ). And that's a good thing........keeps the interest up and entertains us. But, our new friend, Kyle48 does have a point about watching who you disagree with on this board..........been there done that in the past. I'm tempted to toss out that cliché about "can't we just get along" but that's not going to happen when emotions run as they do with this sport. But it would be nice if we did not have to worry about who we might get into an argument with. I see the condescending tone Kyle is talking about. And I see the other side too. But the conversation is stifled somewhat because of it..........and that's too bad. :D
 
Gollum said:
You have been here two years and made two post. Wow by this time next century you may be a Senior Member. :D
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:beerbang: good one gollum........ :beerbang: :D
 
Smoke1TS20 said:
but you joined yesterday?
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wonder if he was here when the former owner (Paul) had this board.....I was a member about 4 or 5 years ago.......but Paul banned me and I lost all my previous posts......think I had about 3 thousand something.....but rejoined up again last year... :beerbang:
 
DE_Wrangler_2 said:
For some reason emotions run pretty high for some of us fans (yeah, I'm guilty too :) ). And that's a good thing........keeps the interest up and entertains us. But, our new friend, Kyle48 does have a point about watching who you disagree with on this board..........been there done that in the past. I'm tempted to toss out that cliché about "can't we just get along" but that's not going to happen when emotions run as they do with this sport. But it would be nice if we did not have to worry about who we might get into an argument with. I see the condescending tone Kyle is talking about. And I see the other side too. But the conversation is stifled somewhat because of it..........and that's too bad. :D
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Yeah DEW, I've been there and done it as well. One thing I've noticed through the years though is that for some people, myself included, it takes one of these types of conflicts to learn from. There will always be personality clashes with certain people and that's when it becomes a name calling thing instead of discussion the issue. In those cases, the people either find ways to go forth and have fun or they go their own separate ways. Most of the time, even if it takes a while, they do the first and may even become friends. I guess it makes a lot of sense to make friends first before you get into a big debate about something.
 
A couple thoughts from a crusty old goat...

One thing that I have noticed with some of the newer fans;
they seem to feel that it is OK for them to express themselves in whatever manner they wish, but they are so very quick to take offense if someone else does the same thing.

I realize that I tend to be rather abrasive and quick to jump into arguments. That's just the way I am.
I tend to tell it like it is and not worry about it, although that does seem to bother a lot of the younger generation.
It appears as though many want to hear only that which supports their interpretation of reality and anything that differs from it is an attempt to be confrontational.

As far as referring to racing as a circus, as I said, I picked that up years ago from racers older than I am.

Sorry if it offends some newbie, but that's their problem.

Same thing with calling folks kiddies.

It's simply a term that has been used for as long as I can remember to address a group of friends or fellow travelers on the road of life.

No offense is intended by it.
But some folks seem to take that as an insult.

Good for them. They have my sympathy. No...on second thought why waste the sympathy? Their problem, not mine.

I just wish that I was still young enough to be called a kid!

Then again, I'd hate to think I had all this learning to do over.
 
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