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gmcbreadtrk
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Don't really have words right now.
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PettyBenson
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:headshake :angel:
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PettyBenson
Guest
CAn anyone around Texas see the debris falling?
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Highboy90
Guest
This is grave news. Let's pray for a miracle.
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PettyBenson
Guest
WHat a sad way to start what was going to be a great day.
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Highboy90
Guest
The crew.
Name: Rick D. Husband
Position: Commander
History: Husband, 45, makes his second trip into space. The U.S. Air Force colonel and mechanical engineer piloted a shuttle flight in 1999, which included the first docking with the international space station.
Name: William C. McCool
Position: Pilot
History: The 40-year-old former test pilot makes his first foray into space. The U.S. Navy commander and Naval Academy graduate is responsible for maneuvering the shuttle as part of several experiments.
Name: Michael P. Anderson
Position: Payload Commander
History: Anderson, 42, went into orbit once before, a 1998 shuttle flight that docked with the Russian space station Mir. The U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and physicist is responsible for the shuttle science mission.
Name: David M. Brown
Position: Mission Specialist
History: The U.S. Navy captain makes his first flight into space. Brown, 46, an aviator and flight surgeon, is working on many experiments, including numerous biological ones.
Name: Kalpana Chawla
Position: Mission Specialist
History: Born in India in 1961, Chawla earned an aerospace engineering doctorate from the University of Colorado in Boulder. Chawla, who has logged more than 375 hours in space, was the prime robotic arm operator on a shuttle flight in 1997.
Name: Laurel Clark
Position: Mission Specialist
History: Clark, 41, a U.S. Navy commander and flight surgeon, is making her first flight into space. A medical school graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, Clark is taking part in a variety of biological experiments.
Name: Ilan Ramon
Position: Payload Specialist
History: Ramon, 47, is the first Israeli astronaut. A colonel and former fighter pilot in the Israeli Air Force, he saw combat experience in the Yom Kippur War in 1973 and the Lebanon War in 1982.
Name: Rick D. Husband
Position: Commander
History: Husband, 45, makes his second trip into space. The U.S. Air Force colonel and mechanical engineer piloted a shuttle flight in 1999, which included the first docking with the international space station.
Name: William C. McCool
Position: Pilot
History: The 40-year-old former test pilot makes his first foray into space. The U.S. Navy commander and Naval Academy graduate is responsible for maneuvering the shuttle as part of several experiments.
Name: Michael P. Anderson
Position: Payload Commander
History: Anderson, 42, went into orbit once before, a 1998 shuttle flight that docked with the Russian space station Mir. The U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and physicist is responsible for the shuttle science mission.
Name: David M. Brown
Position: Mission Specialist
History: The U.S. Navy captain makes his first flight into space. Brown, 46, an aviator and flight surgeon, is working on many experiments, including numerous biological ones.
Name: Kalpana Chawla
Position: Mission Specialist
History: Born in India in 1961, Chawla earned an aerospace engineering doctorate from the University of Colorado in Boulder. Chawla, who has logged more than 375 hours in space, was the prime robotic arm operator on a shuttle flight in 1997.
Name: Laurel Clark
Position: Mission Specialist
History: Clark, 41, a U.S. Navy commander and flight surgeon, is making her first flight into space. A medical school graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, Clark is taking part in a variety of biological experiments.
Name: Ilan Ramon
Position: Payload Specialist
History: Ramon, 47, is the first Israeli astronaut. A colonel and former fighter pilot in the Israeli Air Force, he saw combat experience in the Yom Kippur War in 1973 and the Lebanon War in 1982.
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4xchampncountin
Guest
Thanks for the pics and bios Highboy. Very informative.
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PureDeathRacing
Guest
I live in Rowlett,Tx just east of Dallas, my dad lives 80 miles east of here and yes they are reports of debris in and around Longview where is lives.Originally posted by PettyBenson4510
CAn anyone around Texas see the debris falling?
They are reports of debris from Tyler ,Tx down to Shreveport ,LA that's around a 100mile area, he says they can smell th chemicals and gases in th air. He said they felt th boom at or around 8:15am.
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AngelPoet8
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oh my gosh:waa:
krystle
krystle
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Mopardh9
Guest
Truly a sad day for the space program....i think this will pretty much spell the end to the shuttle . Very ironic that it came so close to happening on the same date as the 1986 tradgedy.
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Guido
Guest
Highboy90, thanks for posting the pictures and information about the crew.
What a sad day for the US and the world.
May they rest in peace.
Guido
What a sad day for the US and the world.
May they rest in peace.
Guido
Terrible loss. Prayers to the families and friends of the Astronauts.
I'm also praying that TRL is ok because she is in Palestine where debris landed.
May those lost Rest In Peace.
I'm also praying that TRL is ok because she is in Palestine where debris landed.
May those lost Rest In Peace.
May we take comfort in knowing those brave people now rest in the arms of God. Prayers and heartfelt sympathy to families and friends of those who were lost.
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pbunch
Guest
I mean no disrespect,But these people knew the dangers.It is the brave like them that march our country forward.May God rest there souls,And comfort there familys.I am not sure that this could not have been prevented.They knew something had fallen off at takeoff.This investigation should be interesting.Get your wallets out,I hate to see how much money we just lost,Let alone lives of the 7 brave souls.
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sgbg88
Guest
I watched the 1986 launch at school, and we couldn't believe what had happened. I was in 8th grade at the time. I thought of that moment when I heard the news this morning. So sorry for the families and their loss. I hoe they find a cause and not spectulate on what happened.
So sorry for the families and their loss. I hoe they find a cause and not spectulate on what happened.
fergy1370
Team Owner
You're among the stars forever.....
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pettyfan4life
Guest
I am not trying to start anyhting but I really really seriously think that Iraq had something to do with this. I mean with their comments on it and all of that stuff. This is just my opion and have not heard any thing about it so dont go off sdtarting rumors
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pbunch
Guest
I don't think so Petty.I think the damn thing just burnt up comming in.
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gmcbreadtrk
Guest
Yeah, this stinks, but a few tiles fell off during take off, something hit the shuttle while in space in the area of the tiles, built in 79 launched in 81, retired, refitted, reused, the old girl just burned up, plain and simple.
Brave men and women, god rest their souls.
Brave men and women, god rest their souls.
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rpmallen
Guest
A terrible tragedy; I remember when the Challenger blew up, it reminded me a lot of this incident. Though 110 successful flights compared to 2 unsuccessful flights, I'd say Nasa has done pretty well overall protecting the lives of the people that go on these dangerous journeys. It's a tragedy, but at least they died enjoying what they were doing.
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gordon24fan
Guest
I was shocked when I heard the news this morning. Rest in Peace to the entire crew.
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Gollum
Guest
I watched it on fox news at work. It is trully a sad day.
I received this tonight and thought it would be appropriate to post.
PRAYER FOR THE ASTRONAUTS
LORD PLEASE TAKE THESE HERO'S INTO YOUR
HEART AS THEY ASCEND TO HEAVEN.
THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL MANKIND.
BLESS THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN
AS THEY PREPARE FOR THIS TIME OF GREAT LOSS.
OUR HEART, THOUGHTS, AND PRAYERS ARE
WITH THEM
GOD BLESS.
PRAYER FOR THE ASTRONAUTS
LORD PLEASE TAKE THESE HERO'S INTO YOUR
HEART AS THEY ASCEND TO HEAVEN.
THEY GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL MANKIND.
BLESS THE FAMILIES OF THE FALLEN
AS THEY PREPARE FOR THIS TIME OF GREAT LOSS.
OUR HEART, THOUGHTS, AND PRAYERS ARE
WITH THEM
GOD BLESS.
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pbunch
Guest
Good Job Kat.This is Gods blessing in disguise.
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coonhound
Guest
This is very sad, I had the same emotions come over me that came over when the Challenger exploded.
I also remember when Apollo burned on the launch pad and that was Jan 27, 1967 during a preflight test.
The Challenger disaster was on Jan 28, 1986.
Maybe NASA should take the winter off.
The Challenger disaster was on Jan 28, 1986.
Maybe NASA should take the winter off.
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boB
Guest
I received this letter this morning and while it is rather long, I felt it should be shared.
I learned the words to the poem, "High Flight" sometime ago while I was in grade school and for some reason those words have always stayed with me.
I think anyone who has ever solo'ed in any type of aircraft can relate to them quite well. It is a feeling which only those who have experienced it can truly appreciate.
I know they have come back to me every time I've experienced the wonder of feeling an aircraft lift itself from the ground; they came back to me when I watched as the Challenger exploded on live television seventeen years ago, and they were there again Saturday morning as I watched the contrails spread across the sky and realized that we had lost seven more fine, brave young souls to the exploration of the unkown .
Thank God we still have young men and women with the courage and strength of character to tackle the hard, and the dangerous chores which face mankind.
May God Bless them and keep them close and may they and their families find peace and comfort in His Grace.
boB
'The Days of Miracle and Wonder'
The Columbia's loss is a searing reminder of American heroism.
Saturday, February 1, 2003 3:38 p.m. EST
"The Columbia is lost. There are no survivors." Blunt words spoken softly by President Bush this afternoon. He spoke of how easy it is for all of us to "overlook the dangers of travel by rocket. . . . These astronauts knew the dangers, and they faced them willingly." He spoke of why "mankind is led into the darkness," and he promised that "our journey into space will go on."
" 'Lift your eyes and look to the heavens,' " he said, quoting Isaiah. "The same Creator who names the stars knows the names of the seven souls we mourn today."
His remarks were explicitly God-based, and that seemed just right. At moments like this presidents fall back on their primary thought-stream. Mr. Bush went straight to the spiritual.
Oh my, it is painful. The parents of astronaut David Brown were just on television, live, early in the afternoon of the day their son died. Mr. Brown said his son had told him he dreamed of going to Mars. He added that all Dave's flight friends wanted a Mars journey. David Brown's parents spoke with a helpful air, with pained poise, of their son who had died in the morning. Thrown back by life and trying to be helpful. You wonder where astronaut David Brown got his guts? Meet Mr. and Mrs. Brown of Arlington, Va.
It sends you back, doesn't it? You see the broken line of vapor against the blue sky and hear the voices anchormen get when they have to ad lib disaster, and it takes you back to that winter day 17 years ago when America was horrified to see a spacecraft blow up before its eyes.
But this one is different, in so many ways.
We weren't watching it take off, live, we were watching it come back in, only we weren't watching because we've grown so used to marvels. I think of a hundred-year-old lady who told a friend of mine of the day that when she was young, she saw an airplane for the first time. She had been dining with friends at an outdoor club and a plane--this amazing machine--came and landed on the rolling lawns beyond. They ran out from the lunch table in great excitement, touched the plane, felt amazement. "What did you do then?" my friend asked. "We went inside and finished lunch," she replied. That's what people do with marvels, they see, absorb and return to life. That's what we were doing while the space program was going on the past few years: We were eating lunch.
The Challenger broke up over the ocean, this one over land. The air this time on the TV screen was pale, not the painful rich blue that framed the vivid cloud of what had been the Challenger.
Back then it was a shock. This time it is too, though one we've experienced before.
"These are the days of miracle and wonder," sang Paul Simon in the 1980s. It ran through my head all morning, from out of nowhere, and I think I know why. It has to do with the impossibility, the sheer implausibility, of the facts. We are on the verge of war in the Mideast, a war springing in its modern origins from the tensions of the Arab-Israeli conflict; our president, a Texan, believes we must move on Iraq. The space shuttle that broke up today carried, for the first time ever, a Mideastern astronaut, an Israeli who won fame when he led a daring raid on a nuclear reactor in Iraq, 20 years ago. The shuttle broke up over the president's home state, Texas. The center of the debris field appears to be a little town called Palestine.
If Tom Clancy wrote this in one of his novels--heck, if Tim LaHaye wrote this in one of his Left Behind books--his editor would call him and say, "We're thinking this may be too over the top."
The morning the Challenger blew up, President Reagan was meeting with a handful of network anchors, giving them a preview of his State of the Union address, which was to be given that night. The president got the news of the explosion and spoke of the tragedy with the anchors, who asked him questions. Their conversation was witnessed by a staffer in the National Security Council, who took notes. She ran them into the speechwriting office. The notes became the basis of the Challenger speech, which the president gave later that day.
He ended with famous words from a famous World War II-era poem written by Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee Jr., an American citizen who gave his life with the Royal Canadian Air Force at the beginning of the war, before America was in.
I felt in my heart that Mr. Reagan knew that poem, and that if he did he would want to use it. He did know it. He told me afterward that it was written on a plaque at his daughter Patti's school when she was a kid. He used to go and read it. I was later told that Mr. Reagan had in fact read the poem at the funeral or at a memorial for his friend Tyrone Power, who had been a World War II pilot.
This is the poem. It's called "High Flight":
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds--and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of--wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence, hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along,
And flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
The morning the Challenger blew up, the grade-school daughter of Ronald Reagan's chief speechwriter, Ben Elliott, was spending the day with her father in the White House. She came into my office, this little blond child, and said softly that the teacher was on the Challenger. Is the teacher OK? I realized: schoolchildren across the country were watching the Challenger go up, they were watching on TV sets and in auditoriums, because Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher in space, was on the flight. The children saw it all. It was supposed to be part of American schoolchildren learning about space, that's why the schools were showing it live. It was a learning tool.
Well it was, and the children learned more than anyone would have expected. They got a lesson in bravery, on why men go forth into space, on what it means to push forward, and what courage it takes. What it is to be an American pioneer.
Today the tragedy feels less like something that teaches than something that reminds. We were reminded of what we know. President Bush referred to it when he lauded the astronauts' courage. We forget to notice the everyday courage of astronauts. We forget to think about all the Americans doing big and dangerous things in the world--members of the armed forces, cops and firemen, doctors in public hospitals in hard places. And now, famously again, astronauts. With their unremarked-upon valor and cool professionalism. With their desire to make progress and push on.
Buzz Aldrin captured it this morning. He tried to read a poem about astronauts on television. He read these words: "As they passed from us to glory, riding fire in the sky." And tough old Buzz, steely-eyed rocket man and veteran of the moon, began to weep.
He was not alone.
God bless and bless and bless their souls, and rest their souls in the morning.
PEGGY NOONAN
I learned the words to the poem, "High Flight" sometime ago while I was in grade school and for some reason those words have always stayed with me.
I think anyone who has ever solo'ed in any type of aircraft can relate to them quite well. It is a feeling which only those who have experienced it can truly appreciate.
I know they have come back to me every time I've experienced the wonder of feeling an aircraft lift itself from the ground; they came back to me when I watched as the Challenger exploded on live television seventeen years ago, and they were there again Saturday morning as I watched the contrails spread across the sky and realized that we had lost seven more fine, brave young souls to the exploration of the unkown .
Thank God we still have young men and women with the courage and strength of character to tackle the hard, and the dangerous chores which face mankind.
May God Bless them and keep them close and may they and their families find peace and comfort in His Grace.
boB
'The Days of Miracle and Wonder'
The Columbia's loss is a searing reminder of American heroism.
Saturday, February 1, 2003 3:38 p.m. EST
"The Columbia is lost. There are no survivors." Blunt words spoken softly by President Bush this afternoon. He spoke of how easy it is for all of us to "overlook the dangers of travel by rocket. . . . These astronauts knew the dangers, and they faced them willingly." He spoke of why "mankind is led into the darkness," and he promised that "our journey into space will go on."
" 'Lift your eyes and look to the heavens,' " he said, quoting Isaiah. "The same Creator who names the stars knows the names of the seven souls we mourn today."
His remarks were explicitly God-based, and that seemed just right. At moments like this presidents fall back on their primary thought-stream. Mr. Bush went straight to the spiritual.
Oh my, it is painful. The parents of astronaut David Brown were just on television, live, early in the afternoon of the day their son died. Mr. Brown said his son had told him he dreamed of going to Mars. He added that all Dave's flight friends wanted a Mars journey. David Brown's parents spoke with a helpful air, with pained poise, of their son who had died in the morning. Thrown back by life and trying to be helpful. You wonder where astronaut David Brown got his guts? Meet Mr. and Mrs. Brown of Arlington, Va.
It sends you back, doesn't it? You see the broken line of vapor against the blue sky and hear the voices anchormen get when they have to ad lib disaster, and it takes you back to that winter day 17 years ago when America was horrified to see a spacecraft blow up before its eyes.
But this one is different, in so many ways.
We weren't watching it take off, live, we were watching it come back in, only we weren't watching because we've grown so used to marvels. I think of a hundred-year-old lady who told a friend of mine of the day that when she was young, she saw an airplane for the first time. She had been dining with friends at an outdoor club and a plane--this amazing machine--came and landed on the rolling lawns beyond. They ran out from the lunch table in great excitement, touched the plane, felt amazement. "What did you do then?" my friend asked. "We went inside and finished lunch," she replied. That's what people do with marvels, they see, absorb and return to life. That's what we were doing while the space program was going on the past few years: We were eating lunch.
The Challenger broke up over the ocean, this one over land. The air this time on the TV screen was pale, not the painful rich blue that framed the vivid cloud of what had been the Challenger.
Back then it was a shock. This time it is too, though one we've experienced before.
"These are the days of miracle and wonder," sang Paul Simon in the 1980s. It ran through my head all morning, from out of nowhere, and I think I know why. It has to do with the impossibility, the sheer implausibility, of the facts. We are on the verge of war in the Mideast, a war springing in its modern origins from the tensions of the Arab-Israeli conflict; our president, a Texan, believes we must move on Iraq. The space shuttle that broke up today carried, for the first time ever, a Mideastern astronaut, an Israeli who won fame when he led a daring raid on a nuclear reactor in Iraq, 20 years ago. The shuttle broke up over the president's home state, Texas. The center of the debris field appears to be a little town called Palestine.
If Tom Clancy wrote this in one of his novels--heck, if Tim LaHaye wrote this in one of his Left Behind books--his editor would call him and say, "We're thinking this may be too over the top."
The morning the Challenger blew up, President Reagan was meeting with a handful of network anchors, giving them a preview of his State of the Union address, which was to be given that night. The president got the news of the explosion and spoke of the tragedy with the anchors, who asked him questions. Their conversation was witnessed by a staffer in the National Security Council, who took notes. She ran them into the speechwriting office. The notes became the basis of the Challenger speech, which the president gave later that day.
He ended with famous words from a famous World War II-era poem written by Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee Jr., an American citizen who gave his life with the Royal Canadian Air Force at the beginning of the war, before America was in.
I felt in my heart that Mr. Reagan knew that poem, and that if he did he would want to use it. He did know it. He told me afterward that it was written on a plaque at his daughter Patti's school when she was a kid. He used to go and read it. I was later told that Mr. Reagan had in fact read the poem at the funeral or at a memorial for his friend Tyrone Power, who had been a World War II pilot.
This is the poem. It's called "High Flight":
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds--and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of--wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence, hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along,
And flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
The morning the Challenger blew up, the grade-school daughter of Ronald Reagan's chief speechwriter, Ben Elliott, was spending the day with her father in the White House. She came into my office, this little blond child, and said softly that the teacher was on the Challenger. Is the teacher OK? I realized: schoolchildren across the country were watching the Challenger go up, they were watching on TV sets and in auditoriums, because Christa McAuliffe, the first teacher in space, was on the flight. The children saw it all. It was supposed to be part of American schoolchildren learning about space, that's why the schools were showing it live. It was a learning tool.
Well it was, and the children learned more than anyone would have expected. They got a lesson in bravery, on why men go forth into space, on what it means to push forward, and what courage it takes. What it is to be an American pioneer.
Today the tragedy feels less like something that teaches than something that reminds. We were reminded of what we know. President Bush referred to it when he lauded the astronauts' courage. We forget to notice the everyday courage of astronauts. We forget to think about all the Americans doing big and dangerous things in the world--members of the armed forces, cops and firemen, doctors in public hospitals in hard places. And now, famously again, astronauts. With their unremarked-upon valor and cool professionalism. With their desire to make progress and push on.
Buzz Aldrin captured it this morning. He tried to read a poem about astronauts on television. He read these words: "As they passed from us to glory, riding fire in the sky." And tough old Buzz, steely-eyed rocket man and veteran of the moon, began to weep.
He was not alone.
God bless and bless and bless their souls, and rest their souls in the morning.
PEGGY NOONAN
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
fergy1370
Team Owner
This decal will be on the cars at Daytona.
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pbunch
Guest
Originally posted by fergy1370
This decal will be on the cars at Daytona.
Good! shows Balls of true Americans.To bad Nascar wasn't this popular the last time we had an Opps in the Space program.
And what's bothersome, it occurred so close to the anniversaries of the Apollo fire and the Challenger explosion.
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Roselady3
Guest
I have a close friend at Mission control in Houston. He is beyond words. They do believe that they know the possible causes. They cannot report as they have to be 100% sure before they comment. It does involve damage to the left wing from the insulation when they took off. A tiny amount a damage to the left made more stress to the right wing- causing it to breakup. Sad. It was the oldest one in the fleet. It was to be it's last mission. This mission had been delayed for many months due to the problems that they found last summer.
I also am lucky enough to be aquaintences with astronaut Jim Lovell, from the near diastrous Apollo 13 mission. He explained to me that there are two dangerous times of space travel. One is taking off, when you are litterally surrounded with volitile fuels. The other is re-entry when the air that you travel through tries to eat you up. There is so much friction, it jolts the body immensly. He explained that we have been extremely lucky to have gone 40 some years without a re-entry inncident. He told me of several Russian re-entry disasters. He told me that we were due. We had been stretching our luck. Due to NASA cutbacks, they were really stretching the envelope there. Columbia should have been replaced many years ago.
I also am lucky enough to be aquaintences with astronaut Jim Lovell, from the near diastrous Apollo 13 mission. He explained to me that there are two dangerous times of space travel. One is taking off, when you are litterally surrounded with volitile fuels. The other is re-entry when the air that you travel through tries to eat you up. There is so much friction, it jolts the body immensly. He explained that we have been extremely lucky to have gone 40 some years without a re-entry inncident. He told me of several Russian re-entry disasters. He told me that we were due. We had been stretching our luck. Due to NASA cutbacks, they were really stretching the envelope there. Columbia should have been replaced many years ago.
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Highboy90
Guest
After days of analysis, NASA backed away Wednesday from the theory that a piece of foam debris that struck Columbia during liftoff was the root cause of the shuttle disaster.
"It doesn't make sense to us that a piece of debris could be the root cause of the loss of Columbia and its crew," Dittemore said. "There's got to be another reason."
News Release.
nice sitcker
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Roselady3
Guest
Wow- So they ruled that out today?
He told me those pieces fall off all the time- but that was a BIG piece. This leaves LOTS of questions- I'm gonna have to blow in a call to him.
I don't know if that possibility being ruled out means that they don't suspect the left wing as being the problem area.
He gets off at 10. Guess what I'll be doing about 10:15?
He told me those pieces fall off all the time- but that was a BIG piece. This leaves LOTS of questions- I'm gonna have to blow in a call to him.
I don't know if that possibility being ruled out means that they don't suspect the left wing as being the problem area.
He gets off at 10. Guess what I'll be doing about 10:15?
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
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Roselady3
Guest
Sorry-- I never got back to you on this.
He insist that damage was caused to the left wing somehow. They have pic's to prove it. They may have said that they thought that the insulation wasn't the cause- But he says that right now- THAT is the main suspicion. No matter WHAT the media reports. He said there was damage to where the wing meets the shuttle- & strangly enough-- that's where the insulation hit.
So the media maybe reporting one thing- But their suspicions still are in the same area. All the sensor failures were in that area, all the temp rises were in that area- & the airforce has pics that prove that was the area that was damaged-
He told me: Remember, NASA like NASCAR is trying to cover their butts & make themselves look better. They are drastically trying to prove anything but their fault. They have never stopped assuming in the investigation that it was anything else.
He insist that damage was caused to the left wing somehow. They have pic's to prove it. They may have said that they thought that the insulation wasn't the cause- But he says that right now- THAT is the main suspicion. No matter WHAT the media reports. He said there was damage to where the wing meets the shuttle- & strangly enough-- that's where the insulation hit.
So the media maybe reporting one thing- But their suspicions still are in the same area. All the sensor failures were in that area, all the temp rises were in that area- & the airforce has pics that prove that was the area that was damaged-
He told me: Remember, NASA like NASCAR is trying to cover their butts & make themselves look better. They are drastically trying to prove anything but their fault. They have never stopped assuming in the investigation that it was anything else.