time is right for nascar seniors tour

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by bigspud, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. bigspud

    bigspud Team Owner

    driver must be retired from other 3 series
    so many drivers available now
    7 road course races short season
    xfinity cars
    nov through january
    last race at daytona rc
    no stages, no playoffs
    f1 style points.
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  2. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    I think the legends race at Bristol a few years back that almost got Larry Pearson killed would probably discourage NASCAR from doing this.
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  3. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I think it could be entertaining. Do they have enough road courses available in those months?
  4. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    I'd like to see Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Sterling Marlin, Dale Jarrett, Ricky Rudd, Jeff Burton, Bobby Labonte, Tony Stewart, Dale Jr, Kyle Petty and Terry Labonte mix it up one more time. Maybe throw in Jeff Green, Frank Kimmell, Ron Honaday and Mike Skinner.

    IMO it should be a one-off, in conjunction with something like the CARS Tour Throwback race at Hickory that apparently doesn't draw a big crowd or so I've been told.
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  5. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    I would prefer a short Powderpuff Series. 5 or 6 races for the ladies.

    10 or 12 of the best available young women, 2 or 3 old girls with the field filled out by Jeff Gordon and both of Bill McAnally’s hauler drivers.

    And Monster Boys. 5 or 6 of them in Victory Lane.
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  6. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    I wouldn't mind a legends series actually, but it has to have cars that are actually safe.
  7. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Ok boomer
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  8. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    Bingo! That wreck is the sole reason why it was the final legends race.
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  9. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    If it were brought back, running it Southern 500 weekend would be perfect.
  10. Hotrod

    Hotrod Team Owner

    The Sportscar Vintage Racing Association (SVRA) have a very good program in place for this type of idea.

    It is called the Vintage Race of Champions (VROC). You get to see some fabulous retired drivers. They are currently attracting
    NASCAR drivers from the past. There is always a charity attached with the events during the year. Drivers are usually available
    in the paddocks at some point during the weekend. I like having the variety of drivers from the different sanctions
    together on the track. It gives you that IROC feel.

    Here is an attached
    article for some further reading . https://svra.com/news/vroc-points-leaders-to-settle-pro-am-championships-at-vir/
  11. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I would like to see this race on a short track and the cars should be right out of the showroom. If the car doesn't have a production of 1000 cars then it don't race.
  12. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    This thread pops back up again every 6-8 weeks and it’s debunked every time
  13. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    A couple of things about vintage car racing. I enjoy going to vintage events, because I enjoy looking at old race cars that have REAL race history, but as the value of those cars has continued to go up and up, fewer and fewer of those type of cars show up. The last time I went to the one at the Brickyard, 75% of the cars were stuff I wouldn't pay $.10 to see, especially when driven by a bunch rich old geezers. Which brings up the second point. With a few notable exceptions, vintage car racing is basically a social event for middle age to old rich guys who never had a racing career living out their Walter Mitty dreams. Besides Bill Elliott, who like to go have fun with Ray Evernham, I don't know how many name stock car drivers would be attracted to this endeavor. And, as it always is with racing, who's going to pay for it? Most of the guys in racing who could afford it got that way by not spending their own money, so who pays?
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  14. KTMLew01

    KTMLew01 Team Owner

  15. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Not something I would want to happen. Would I watch it? Probably...at least at first.
  16. OldTimer

    OldTimer Team Owner

    Do not like the beanie and corduroy coat types making decisions on what the rules of racing are...they are not the type to promote fender rubbing.
  17. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Call me when any of those drivers show the slightest interest in participating. This idea pops annually in various forums, but not once since the Bristol mess have I heard a DRIVER suggest it
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  18. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    Younger NASCAR fans have been pushing for new blood based on their racing experience and how they envision the sport in 10 years.

    “Old Timer” wants leadership based on outerwear style preferences.

    It’s glaringly obvious who doesn't need to be in charge.
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  19. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I would rather see the drivers I have watched for so many years enjoy their well deserved retirement and have fun with their family that probably sacrificed a lot so their husband, father, or mother could have a full time racing career.
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  20. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    If we're choosing NASCAR leadership based on clothing, I vote for Hooter's girls.
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  21. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    I'd rather keep my memories of Jeff Gordon from my childhood through adulthood pure instead of what would become if he ran a senior series. The only one that can pull off a senior series is the Senior PGA Tour because they arnt racing around a track at 100 plus MPH. I'd pass on this idea, hard pass.
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  22. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    Not sure about a senior series, but it would be cool to see some of the more recently retired drivers in the truck series at some short tracks.

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  23. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    Get Joe Nemechek and Morgan Shepherd to enter the same race and it will be done done.
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  24. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Let's bring back this glorious trainwreck

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  25. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

    Why did they give them Jaguars lol
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  26. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Lol ones that were brand new so when they wrecked them they didn't have replacements
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  27. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    I think if we introduce a legends tour, to learn from the mistakes of the Fast Masters Championship, it has to run actual race cars. Such as Super Late Models or K&N/ARCA spec cars
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  28. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Plenty of seniors in Xfinity and the trucks
  29. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    With nascar struggling to get competitive teams in both the truck and Xfinity series I think one of the worst things they could do is create another series to dilute the product. At this point I think quality would do them a lot better than quantity.

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  30. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    The Truck Series isn't having a competition issue. It's the Xfinity and Cup Series that needs fixed.

    Trucks had a solid field compared to X.
  31. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    The Truck series is the one lacking competition money so I think certain races that are held in conjunction with Cup races could have an extra feature that would include "Old Timers" and those trucks could be beefed up to withstand a bit more "rubbin". These drivers and trucks could also have an event at Tony's dirt track.
    IMO, I think All Nascar's Official Sponsors plus those others wanting to get involved could fund the project. Maybe start the first season off with five races and add 2 more races each year as the fan base increases. Drivers must be 50 or retired from racing for 5 yrs.
  32. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    Still waiting for a list of interested drivers...
  33. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Is there lots of food in the house?
  34. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses.

    To wait this out? I don't think there's enough food at Walmart's warehouse.
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  35. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    This idea is already a proven failed concept. The series would be destined to die a quick death under any conceivable format. Nascar has a tough enough time trying to attract fans on a weekly basis let alone strapping drivers into seats that are beyond their prime. IMO, it's more favorable to remember these drivers at their best rather than to witness their diminished talent due to Father Time.
  36. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    ^ I'm not sure about that, the only hockey I watch is the old timers league
    and girls. :D
  37. JerryF

    JerryF Car Chief

    Maybe each series could have a "legend" entry spot that pays extra. Not "start & park" equipment. Promote it and maybe get a one race sponsor (sponsor that doesn't want to do the full or partial schedule.) Pick the area/track where the driver would be most popular. Heck they could even have a legendary crew chief.
  38. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    Not really sure that would be a good idea. I mean these guys stopped or were force to stop because they could no long be competitive. What are we getting out of a "legend" coming back and running mid to back pack? There's only a few rare exceptions, Edwards, Cale, Ned Jarrett, of guys that left while they were still competitive.

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  39. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Glad you didn't mention Tony :D
  40. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Team Owner

    Huge fan, but not only were his skills diminishing it didn't seem like he had any interest in running the cup series any longer

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