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Should other tire companies be allowed in NASCAR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 57.1%

  • No

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Total voters
    21
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Should other tire manufacturers be allowed back into NASCAR? Hoosier, Bridgestone/Firestone, etc?

I have never bought the NASCAR excuse that they would have to supply complete sets of tires from every tire company to every team. No. A team would simply have to sign up before the season what type of tires they want to use.

So, what say you?
 
Spike said:
Should other tire manufacturers be allowed back into NASCAR? Hoosier, Bridgestone/Firestone, etc?

I have never bought the NASCAR excuse that they would have to supply complete sets of tires from every tire company to every team. No. A team would simply have to sign up before the season what type of tires they want to use.

So, what say you?
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In a perfect world all tires would be allowed, but that's just not going to happen. Goodyear is the "official sponsor" of NASCARs tires now. ;) Plus you'd end up having one tire that was the best (even for just a weekend) and everyone would figure that out and run it.

I think they should limit how many tires you can use in a weekend/race. Limit them to 2-3 full sets for a race or something, make them start thinking about taking two tires on certain pit stops and save the fresh ones for the end of the race. Just a thought...might even the playing field out a bit. I'm not sure how many tires those big teams bring to the track but I'm sure they can afford as many as they need while a small team can not. If you get a flat don't count that towards a teams limit.

Didn't they used to limit the number of tires you could use per race in the nationwide series? Or am I just remembering things incorrectly? Hell for all I know they could have a limit now...been a long time since I followed NASCAR closely.
 
Absolutely not. At least, not at the same time. I was around for the last 'tire war' and that did noting except endanger the drivers at the risk of speed. If one of the others were to come in instead of the current manufacturer then I don't see a problem.

Anyone that would vote 'Yes' on this one obviously wasn't a fan of the sport or has long term memory loss of the time that we had competing brands of tires.
 
In my scenario, there wouldnt be a tire war. Each company would give specific tires to each team to test in the offseason(speedway, short track, super speedway, road course). Each would be tested and evaluated by the specific team and before the Bud Shootout each team would have to sign on with a tire manufacturer and that would be the one they are set with for the remainder of the season.
 
Spike said:
In my scenario, there wouldnt be a tire war. Each company would give specific tires to each team to test in the offseason(speedway, short track, super speedway, road course). Each would be tested and evaluated by the specific team and before the Bud Shootout each team would have to sign on with a tire manufacturer and that would be the one they are set with for the remainder of the season.
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That's kinda the definition of a tire war. Each brand then competes to create the fastest tire. This has been done before. A quick search would yield many articles on this very subject. Here's a link to a very good article on this subject. It presents both sides of this very well.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Absolutely not. At least, not at the same time. I was around for the last 'tire war' and that did noting except endanger the drivers at the risk of speed. If one of the others were to come in instead of the current manufacturer then I don't see a problem.

Anyone that would vote 'Yes' on this one obviously wasn't a fan of the sport or has long term memory loss of the time that we had competing brands of tires.
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My thoughts exactly. The last time this was done it got quite ugly.
 
Only if the tires are all held to the same standards, so that we won't have the disastrous tire wars that we had before.
 
I vote yes, so you can have a choice. I run Hoiser and Amercian Racer on my car, just depends on who makes what i need.
 
Much like the cars, each tire would have to have a specific set of standards to comform to. Having only one provider has led to Goodyear getting lazy.
 
Spike said:
Much like the cars, each tire would have to have a specific set of standards to comform to. Having only one provider has led to Goodyear getting lazy.
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Hmmm true. There has been a few cases where the race was ruined by faulty tires.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Anyone that would vote 'Yes' on this one obviously wasn't a fan of the sport or has long term memory loss of the time that we had competing brands of tires.
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I haven't gone any further than this post so I don't know what others might say, but to you I'll say...phewie. I was a fan before "tar wars" and afterwards. Other auto racing series use multiple tire manufactures and your argument doesn't work there. The only reason it works here is because NASCAR backs your argument. So I wonder why? Could it be Goodyear? Yep, that's the answer and behind it is money. During the old "tar wars" time, there were those such as yourself that gave this argument, but having been a fan long before this war came about, I do not recall any real problems that came about because of the war between the tires. I do however, remember the big squawk from those who were tied to Goodyear saying their tire was more safe than the Hoosiers. NASCAR capitulated and Hoosier was again pushed back to the minor leagues.

If it were up to me, and I do know that I have absolutely no influence in anything other than my marriage and then I wonder about that, I would allow Firestone, Dunlop, Michelin and any other tire manufacturer to supply tires. I would also allow other fuels too.
 
buckaroo said:
I haven't gone any further than this post so I don't know what others might say, but to you I'll say...phewie. I was a fan before "tar wars" and afterwards. Other auto racing series use multiple tire manufactures and your argument doesn't work there. The only reason it works here is because NASCAR backs your argument. So I wonder why? Could it be Goodyear? Yep, that's the answer and behind it is money. During the old "tar wars" time, there were those such as yourself that gave this argument, but having been a fan long before this war came about, I do not recall any real problems that came about because of the war between the tires. I do however, remember the big squawk from those who were tied to Goodyear saying their tire was more safe than the Hoosiers. NASCAR capitulated and Hoosier was again pushed back to the minor leagues.

If it were up to me, and I do know that I have absolutely no influence in anything other than my marriage and then I wonder about that, I would allow Firestone, Dunlop, Michelin and any other tire manufacturer to supply tires. I would also allow other fuels too.
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Yep I agree, GoodYear gets a nice piece of change for being the "official" tire of Nascar. I think when Hoosier was allowed in they weren't prepared completely, if I remember correctly it was sort of spur of the moment deal? I say let 3 or 4 tire makers audition a few tires for Nascar pick the top 2 and let them supply tires for season. I don't have a problem with different fuel suppliers either.
 
I would love to see hoosier back in cup again but at the same time i know the cost would get passed down to me the local racer. Several big teams on the short track series on dirt and asphalt already have tire deals with hoosier and its been shown that we pay for that cost already with what tire prices are. Id hate to see what they go to if the cup guys have tire deals. I could be wrong cause they would probably be making more money off them that hoosier wouldnt have to do that.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Absolutely not. At least, not at the same time. I was around for the last 'tire war' and that did noting except endanger the drivers at the risk of speed. If one of the others were to come in instead of the current manufacturer then I don't see a problem.

Anyone that would vote 'Yes' on this one obviously wasn't a fan of the sport or has long term memory loss of the time that we had competing brands of tires.
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Yep. Ernie Irvan almost lost his life because of the tire wars. Every single week, drivers would be contending for a win and *pop*.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Yep. Ernie Irvan almost lost his life because of the tire wars. Every single week, drivers would be contending for a win and *pop*.
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Why do you say that? You know this for a fact that if two or more tires companies were to compete now that it would be more dangerous. You are basing your opinion on pure speculation.
 
I say Goodyear, Hoosier, BF Goodrich(Michelin), Bridgestone, the previously mentioned American Racer, General Tire, along with foreign makers Avon and Pirelli.
 
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