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During yesterday's Nationwide telecast, ESPN's pit reporters had another Vince Welch moment.

First, they proclaim Justin Allgaier missed pre-race ceremonies because he was sick and not feeling well and had asked for a relief driver.

Incorrect. They moved up the prayer before the drivers could get to their cars. Allgaier waited until after pre-race ceremonies were over to walk to his car out of respect. Justin wasn't sick at all, and it left his wife and everyone at Penske miffed.

Then they said Justin lost his helmet and that's why he was late getting to his car.

Incorrect. Justin had his helmet. He had asked for a new face-shield but that had nothing to do with him being late to the grid.

I don't know who runs this ****, but it's obvious ESPN doesn't give a damn about "facts" or the sport and will just spout whatever they want to create drama. They should just sell their rights and GTFO because I guarantee you VERSUS, TNT or NBC could do a better job than this and provide some quality coverage.

I mean, every week, it's the same thing: One driver has to smart off to ESPN's idiot pit reporters. Two more drivers tweet about why they're pissed off at ESPN. The crews are pissed at ESPN for relaying false information. The fans are pissed off at ESPN.

It seems, every week, people are *****ing and moaning about the failures of ESPN. You post one video of a clip from a NASCAR race on Youtube and within an hour, 30 people comment about how they hate ESPN and wish CBS would come back or how ESPN sucks and how they wish Bob was still in the booth and BP was still alive.
 
All you have to do is head over to John Daly's blog at http://dalyplanet.blogspot.com/ and read the comments from angry viewers there.

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Having grown up a stock car racing fan in the sixties and seventies, having all day coverage of the top series was unimagineable- we were lucky to get abridged highlights on Wide World Of Sports once a month. Then along came ESPN and started broadcasting the entire 'Cup season. They still have a lot of cred with me.
 
PettyBlue said:
Having grown up a stock car racing fan in the sixties and seventies, having all day coverage of the top series was unimagineable- we were lucky to get abridged highlights on Wide World Of Sports once a month. Then along came ESPN and started broadcasting the entire 'Cup season. They still have a lot of cred with me.
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My feelings exactly.
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PettyBlue said:
Having grown up a stock car racing fan in the sixties and seventies, having all day coverage of the top series was unimagineable- we were lucky to get abridged highlights on Wide World Of Sports once a month. Then along came ESPN and started broadcasting the entire 'Cup season. They still have a lot of cred with me.
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:beerbang: ALSO AGREE
 
I kind of agree with Andy. I dont care why he was late. But they do need to get their facts right if they are going to report something.
 
Lap3Forever said:
I kind of agree with Andy. I dont care why he was late. But they do need to get their facts right if they are going to report something.
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AndyMarquisLive said:
Or correct the record, on air, when they **** up.
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Do you think the reporters made up the story or did someone in Nascar, Penske team, who ever tell them something wrong?

As to correcting the record do you know that they ever knew the truth as to why he was late? I suspect that you don't. As a reporter I would think that you would know the worst thing they can do is to keep stirring the pot when they may not have the facts.

And again does it really matter what the true story was? Maybe he was taking a deuce or hitting some strange and they were trying to give him a cover story.
 
Can you just let it go? We got the point about 100 posts ago that you hate ESPNs coverage.
 
Spike said:
Can you just let it go? We got the point about 100 posts ago that you hate ESPNs coverage.
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This ain't me, this is dozens of other angry viewers. Not to mention the hundreds of angry viewers posting their complaints on every YouTube NASCAR video with the ESPN logo in the corner of the screen. Or the thousands of people complaining about ESPN. Or the thousands of emails that flood the Inbox at ESPN which they continue to ignore. :rolleyes:
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
This ain't me, this is dozens of other angry viewers. Not to mention the hundreds of angry viewers posting their complaints on every YouTube NASCAR video with the ESPN logo in the corner of the screen. Or the thousands of people complaining about ESPN. Or the thousands of emails that flood the Inbox at ESPN which they continue to ignore. :rolleyes:
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Andy...You are posting it here not them....keep emailing ESPN then.....I'm just thankful we have racing to watch every weekend.

Call Obama...mabey you could be his sports CZAR
 
Bucky Badger said:
Andy...You are posting it here not them....keep emailing ESPN then.....I'm just thankful we have racing to watch every weekend.

Call Obama...mabey you could be his sports CZAR
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Hey now. Lay off Andy. He's right about everything! LOL

Seriously though, while I'm never happy with the whole broadcast on any network, I sure am glad that I get to see the races live.
 
One of the perogativs of getting old(er) is we have a tendency to retell things. I've said all this before but here goes again.
I have no complaint with ESPN's coverage. Don't get me wrong but there have been times when I wrote a letter of complaint to the ESPN offices griping about a specific announcer (Jerry Punch) but I never lost sight of the purpose and enjoyment brought by ESPN over the years. All to clearly is the memory of the late 1950's and '60's when it was difficult to get information on race results from various racing venues especially in northern media as I lived in New Jersey at the time. As a matter of fact, during that time there were races in the NASCAR series that, no matter where held, were considered "local" and the only way people out of the "local" area got news was to subscribe to National Speed Sport News, a racing paper with Chris Economacki as editor, printed in of all places, Paterson, NJ !

So when I read Andy's constant criticisms of ESPN, or those of anyone else, all it does is bring a smile to my face because they don't know what it was like before we had the multi-year contracts for television coverage of NASCAR racing. They don't know what it was like to scrounge for news to find who won on any given week and they do not know what it was like to wait a week for that issue of NSSN to arrive.

So Pettyblue, I'm with you and others who share the opinion and appreciate ESPN for being a pioneer of racing broadcasts! I darn well appreciate the broadcasts from any source that brings racing into my home in a timely manner. I might not like the announcer or the accuracy but at least it is available.

No offense intended to Andy, but the so-called thousands of race fans who you cite as complainers are all from the new school of race fans, not that they are any more or less of such, but their complaints do not represent me or the thousands who are thrilled to have whatever coverage we can get, regardless of quality and accuracy. Nit-picking the incorrect info re: one driver, is petty b.s. and totally inconsequential to the entire events of the day. Sorta like mentioning he used Charmin toilet tissue rather than Scott's and does it really matter?
 
Here's a novel idea:

NASCAR can concentrate on making the actual competition better. That way at least the little we get to see from any network would be of some interest. Keep the damned 127 different camera views and give us some damned passing.

Duh.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
This ain't me, this is dozens of other angry viewers. Not to mention the hundreds of angry viewers posting their complaints on every YouTube NASCAR video with the ESPN logo in the corner of the screen. Or the thousands of people complaining about ESPN. Or the thousands of emails that flood the Inbox at ESPN which they continue to ignore. :rolleyes:
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STOP THE PRESSES!! Poeple on YouTube complain about something! My God!!!

So tell me Andy, how do you KNOW that there are thousands of emails in the ESPN inbox? Are you acessing it illegally? Or is that how many massages that are in your sent items to them?
 
Whizzer said:
One of the perogativs of getting old(er) is we have a tendency to retell things. I've said all this before but here goes again.
I have no complaint with ESPN's coverage. Don't get me wrong but there have been times when I wrote a letter of complaint to the ESPN offices griping about a specific announcer (Jerry Punch) but I never lost sight of the purpose and enjoyment brought by ESPN over the years. All to clearly is the memory of the late 1950's and '60's when it was difficult to get information on race results from various racing venues especially in northern media as I lived in New Jersey at the time. As a matter of fact, during that time there were races in the NASCAR series that, no matter where held, were considered "local" and the only way people out of the "local" area got news was to subscribe to National Speed Sport News, a racing paper with Chris Economacki as editor, printed in of all places, Paterson, NJ !

So when I read Andy's constant criticisms of ESPN, or those of anyone else, all it does is bring a smile to my face because they don't know what it was like before we had the multi-year contracts for television coverage of NASCAR racing. They don't know what it was like to scrounge for news to find who won on any given week and they do not know what it was like to wait a week for that issue of NSSN to arrive.

So Pettyblue, I'm with you and others who share the opinion and appreciate ESPN for being a pioneer of racing broadcasts! I darn well appreciate the broadcasts from any source that brings racing into my home in a timely manner. I might not like the announcer or the accuracy but at least it is available.

No offense intended to Andy, but the so-called thousands of race fans who you cite as complainers are all from the new school of race fans, not that they are any more or less of such, but their complaints do not represent me or the thousands who are thrilled to have whatever coverage we can get, regardless of quality and accuracy. Nit-picking the incorrect info re: one driver, is petty b.s. and totally inconsequential to the entire events of the day. Sorta like mentioning he used Charmin toilet tissue rather than Scott's and does it really matter?
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Well said. :beerbang:

With the internet and twelve thousand channels of television I can always find "racin". It just gets better every year.
 
One day there will be none of us who have lived through that period and the only people alive will have been able to watch every race for their entire lives and they will be like many are today about not having A/C in their homes. Besides, Andy gripes about everything and no one can please him. He's a spoiled child who is used to getting his way or he will take his ball and go home. Whizz, the first time I was able to keep up to date with NASCAR is through the other publication, Grand National Scene. Living in Iowa was like living in the north pole when it came to NASCAR and look at it now. Times have changed and so have the fans. The neo-fans such as Andy will come and go and the old diehard fans will fade away and that will be the time that NASCAR too will fade away to become what it was 40 years ago, just a local sport. I suspect by then people like Andy will move on to something else that will keep their interests for a while.
:beerbang: Here's to ESPN that should be credited with starting all of this. :beerbang:
 
buckaroo said:
One day there will be none of us who have lived through that period and the only people alive will have been able to watch every race for their entire lives and they will be like many are today about not having A/C in their homes. Besides, Andy gripes about everything and no one can please him. He's a spoiled child who is used to getting his way or he will take his ball and go home. Whizz, the first time I was able to keep up to date with NASCAR is through the other publication, Grand National Scene. Living in Iowa was like living in the north pole when it came to NASCAR and look at it now. Times have changed and so have the fans. The neo-fans such as Andy will come and go and the old diehard fans will fade away and that will be the time that NASCAR too will fade away to become what it was 40 years ago, just a local sport. I suspect by then people like Andy will move on to something else that will keep their interests for a while.
:beerbang: Here's to ESPN that should be credited with starting all of this. :beerbang:
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:beerbang::beerbang::beerbang:

Heck, I didn't even notice Justin was late - his pit box was in front of me and in my way during prerace ceremonies. :D
 
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